The news continues. The source of Caitlin Collins starts now. Straight from the source tonight. The State Of The Union on steroids. Biden goes for the jugular again as trump host Vladimir Putins buddy at mar a lago, a strong man accused of turning his countrys democracy into his own personal dictatorship. And theres a jarring Reality Check on that floating pier to russia. Emergency aid into gaza blocked by land now months delayed at sea. And theres word tonight of a deadly accident while dropping aid from the air as biden is caught on a hot mic revealing what he wants from netanyahu. And my friend. Conversation with four women in Power Fighting back in the flashpoint over Abortion Rights. Sharing four very personal stories. Im Caitlin Collins and this is the source. Joe biden went there tonight. The president bringing the heat as he kicked off a march through Battleground States. This time he dropped the whole my predecessor stuff that you heard 13 times last night in the State Of The Union, and now hes just calling out trump by name, all while the Presumptive Republican nominee is welcoming a new house guest who just happens to be the man redefining what it means to be a modern day dictator, the incumbent president shows no signs of slowing down his fiery, combative state of the Union Message from last night. Tonight, his plan of attack is on full display. Joe biden wants to cast the 2024 election in no uncertain terms. Donald trump with the maga republic. Youre trying to take away our freedoms. Thats not an exaggeration. Well, guess what . We will not let him. We will not let him. The Alabama Supreme Court shut down ivf treatments. Do you know why it happened . Ill tell you why. One reason donald trump, will you ride down the street . And there was a trump banner with a few on it and a little, and a six year old kid putting up his middle finger. It demeans who we are. Thats not who america. Thats not america. He thinks putin is a strong basically, hes a decent guy. You know who hes meeting with today and down in mar a lago, orban of hungary, who stated flatly he doesnt think democracy works. Hes looking for dictatorship. I want to bring in two top political minds to start us off tonight. Democratic congressman ro khanna of california and republican strategist rina shah, both here on set. And congressman, i mean, you know, there was a lot of democratic anxiety going into the State Of The Union last night. Bidens age has been a big concern for voters. How did you feel coming out of that president . Hit it Out Of The Park . I mean, he was brilliant. I thought the best part was actually when he talked about how his lifetime of experience gave him a moral clarity. And his whole life hes been standing up for compassion, dignity, decency. And those are the values that are at stake in what hes going to fight for, for americas future. It was a rationale for his whole candidacy. What do you make of how he was not saying trumps name at all last night . Just my predecessor, my predecessor. And now today, i think it was like nine times. He had no issue going after him today in pennsylvania. You know, i think one of the things people dont appreciate about the president is hes an institutionalist and hes quite traditional. And i think he honors the State Of The Union. So he didnt think it was appropriate probably to use that at the State Of The Union. Its appropriate on a campaign trail. And my guess is thats why hes willing to use it on a campaign stop. Yeah. I mean, republicans, though, as you saw them last night, they were saying the complaint initially had been bidens too old to be president. They were basically waiting for him to trip, walking down the aisle to get up there. But then they were complaining that he was loud. They said he was divisive, that it was too political. Of a State Of The Union speech. I went in with really low expectations. I was expecting to sort of even lose engagement at some point, but he kept me engaged the whole night. I was really surprised. So very surprised also that early on in the speech, it was like, whoa, what am i listening to . It was very a La Donald Trump at a podium without all the other divisive talk and the name calling. And there was a moment also where i got what i wanted this week because i started republican women for biden in 2020 with the expectation that i would vote for a republican this time. And this past week, i cast my vote for nikki haley proudly casting my first vote ever for a woman as president. So i will say, i was thinking to myself, what do i want to see from this president . How do i not want to see him fail as somebody that cares about this country and wants to put country over party . I want to data points and i got exactly that on the economy, primarily is what i was looking for, but also one part where i wanted a little bit more and i didnt get it. Caitlin was the border immigration because thats where i felt the republicans were throwing it in his face last night, with lake and riley tying that to crime and public safety, the border issues and immigration, can republicans still legitimately use the h thing after seeing how he did last night . I think they can because hes not aging in reverse. There are going to be moments in this next many months where hes going to look tired, like humans do. Somebody whos 80 is not going to have the vigor of somebody whos in their 50s, and thats just the challenge. But hey, this can happen for trump as well. What the Biden Campaign needs to keep doing is reminding folks of the moments where donald trump seems cognitively impaired, that hes just three years his junior, bidens junior. So again, age is going to continue to factor in. But the cognitive ability, he certainly showed he was up to the mark last night. Its how he continues the momentum. Well, that is the question. I mean, biden, republican has set the bar so low for him last night that it was just easy to essentially walk over it. But the question is, can he keep up that momentum . Is that something you know, how what are democrats saying about that and what that looks like for the next eight months . There was enthusiasm this morning in the House Democratic caucus. I mean, people, its no secret that there were some people who are murmuring, is he up to it . And he decisively answered that, at least for democrats. But he did something more than just show energy. I think he took this age issue and did a jujitsu, he said. At a time in this country where were polarized, where were anxious, where there are people who are talking about hate, let me tell you my lifetime of experience tells me what it means to be an american. I was born in world war two, where we stood up for freedom. Those are the values that helped define me, and those are the values that im going to fight for. I think he showed that it can be an asset at this moment. Is that an effective tactic, do you think, is that what his argument about his age should look like Going Forward . I do look, Jeffrey Katzenberg is chair has been saying, you know, go embrace your age like a like Harrison Ford does. He cant be Harrison Ford. But i think he found a way to explain why experience. Why statesmanship, why a lifetime of living . Americas story matters at a time where americas story is being attacked. There are two different visions that hes saying, heres the story i grew up with. Heres why i want to fight for these values. Its given me a clarity of why we have to be an inclusive society. You mentioned polarization and you heard President Biden today. One thing it was just surprising because, you know, when your reporters traveling with him, youre always wondering, does he notice what youre noticing on the way to the events, which is a lot of supporters, but also a lot of protesters, because they know where the president is coming and hes hes talking about the six year old giving the middle finger. I mean, it does speak to the moment that were in as a country. Does a vigorous speech make a difference . I guess for Something Like that . Look, i think the president got a lot of things right last night. His motorcade was rerouted because of the protesters out there calling for a cease fire, which hes already says he wants. Now to me, its a little late, but but look, im an interesting, different voter on all this. My biggest gripe with the president right now is somebody who has a Family History where my family escaped a dictatorship, and thats squarely why were in this country. We had to escape idi amin in uganda. And i know what thats like. So when you have that personal experience with dictatorships and defending democracy, you understand it. But not everybody feels this way. Ive had numerous conversations with republican operatives, even, who dont feel like the defending democracy message is good. And they also feel like what kind of democracy do we even have . So i think the president needs to pivot and talk more about Kitchen Table issues, the border and immigration. Well see if he does that. Reena shah, congressman rokana, great to have you both here on a friday night on set. And meanwhile, as we noted at the top of the show and this bigger conversation about democracy, not just in the United States but on the world stage, the strongman hungarian Prime Minister, is in the United States tonight, but not to meet with anyone from the white house. He didnt get an invitation to sit down with President Biden, we are told by white house officials. But viktor orban did meet with someone that he is certainly hoping could be in the white house soon. Donald trump today at mar a lago, trump hosted the man who i should note is responsible for busting Democratic Institutions and tightening his grip around the throat of his nations government, a meeting that we have learned trumps team says was about 90 minutes in a casual catch up here tonight to talk about that is the coauthor of the New York Times best seller how democracies die, and a new book titled tyranny of the minority. Daniel ziblatt daniel, i just you know, when you look at these two leaders, they have this long history of admiration for one another. And i wonder what it says to you that for the First Time Since trump became the Presumptive Republican nominee this week, with nikki haleys exit, what it says to you that the first leader hes meeting with is this european autocrat . Yeah, we have to put it in context. You know, hungary is a country that exited communism in the 1990s. And for the first part of the 21st century was a pretty robust democracy. Viktor orban had been in power, was voted out and very parallel to trump, came back into office a second time in 2010, promising to himself that he wouldnt lose another election since 2010. Hungary. Hungarys democracy has plummeted the Freedom House ranks. Democracies plummeted to a score of 65, which basically puts it on par with the Dominican Republic and senegal. So this is no longer a democracy. And the fact that donald trump views this as a model is kind of shocking. Yeah. What does it say to you that he doesnt get an invite to the white house . But he does get an invite to mar a lago. Yeah. So hungary is part of the eu. Its part of nato. But its really the weakest link in nato, and i think what this shows you is that really theres a theres a potential alliance here between trump and other kind of autocratic countries. This is somebody whos, viktor orban, somebody who was elected to office. But once in office really adopted the authoritarian playbook, which is something that donald trump has said he admires. This means going capturing the referees of the state, the impartial institutions, the judiciary. One of the first things that orban did when he came into power was to capture the court system. The second thing he did was he went after opposition players, he attacked the media. He had his friends buy up opposition, critical media. And then the third thing orban did to squelch democracy in hungary was to tilt the playing field, to make it so. It was hard for the opposition to vote him out of office. And in particular, what orban did was he gerrymandered the election system. So it really was very difficult for his party to lose. From Donald Trumps perspective, this is something to be, to as a model. And so that should frighten all of us. Yeah. Do you think we could see echoes of that . If trump does return to the white house and have a second time . Yeah, i think we really need to think about what this means concretely for americans lives. You know, so in many ways, you know, we know Abortion Rights are under assault in red states, in particular in the United States. But this is really only the tip of the iceberg. You know, one of the things thats happened in a lot of countries that where autocrats have been elected is actually Abortion Rights have come under assault and other kinds of freedoms. So this means very specific things for americans. And, you know, american lives. And its not just an abstract kind of debate about a democracy. And the thing that i think we have to remember again here is that trump and his allies have said this is really a model. And so, you know, American Democracy is more robust than i would say, hungarian democracy. We have a federal system, but we certainly should not take our democracy from grant for granted. And i think we really need to learn from other countries. And it just shows you, because this is not how other european leaders in that bloc view trump. Theyre much more skeptical of what a trump return to the white house would mean for them, for their alliance with the United States and just for the us foreign policy. On a broader scale, if you look at other countries in europe that have the highest democracy scores, more like the United States, switzerland, norway, these are countries outside of europe, new zealand, these are the countries we should be emulating and be friends with. These are countries that have high democracy scores, that have robust, that are robust democracies and people that are the leaders of these countries and citizens of these countries are quite worried. What this means, in particular in europe with the russian invasion of ukraine, the idea that we might have somebody in the white house who doesnt take the Nato Alliance seriously as viktor orban is, you know, is again, probably the weakest link in the Nato Alliance who tried to block sweden from joining nato. This means, you know, a lot of people like to go to you know, what this means very specifically. Again, this is not an abstract issue. People like to go to vacation to tuscany in europe. What does this mean if nato is not there to defend this . I mean, this really affects peoples lives. This affects peoples lives in europe, everyday citizens. And so again, we need to really take this seriously. Daniel ziblatt, great to have you on. Thank you for joining. Thank you. Up next, it turns out that the president s latest plan to get more aid into gaza could actually take much longer than expected. It could go on for months, and it would require also almost 1000 us troops to set it up and put it in motion. Were live with the top house progressive, who has been pushing the president to do more. Plus, donald trump has found a way to finally cough up about 90 million. That means only 450 million more to go. To be a headliner las vegas thats what i want to do vegas. The story of sin city next sunday at ten on cnn. Introducing neds plaque. Psoriasis he thinks his flaky red patches are all people. See . Otezla is the number one prescribed pill to treat Plaque Psoriasis. 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