Fulton county courthouse with all the breaking details, plus running out the clock. Its team trumps legal and political strategy with multiple court dates. Now on hold. It is paused so voters could decide the former president s beit before any of his cases reach a jury. And the white house has a message for republicans trying to impeach president biden, move on shockingly, the house may listen, will bring you that new sin and reporting this hour. Im dana bash. Lets go behind the headlines inside politics we start in georgia where a judge just ruled that da fani Willis Willis can continue spearheading the election case. They are against donald trump if she removes her top deputy in the case, nathan wade, with whom she has had a romantic relationship that is part of a win for the District Attorney, but the rest of the ruling leaves a major stain. The judge went on to Admonish Willis for the relationship, writing, quote, georgia law does not permit the finding of an actual conflict. Four, simply making bad choices even repeatedly cnns Nick Valencia is outside the courthouse. Nick a technical win for Fulton CountyDistrict Attorney, fani willis, but a massive indictment on her behavior judge, saying that there was no throughline proven here that fani willis was able to enrich yourself by hiring nathan wade as a lead prosecutor, but he was highly critical of that relationship, saying that georgia law does not permit an actual conflict for bad choices even repeated ones. And this is what he is saying in part of his ruling just a moment ago saying, quote sorry, just give Me One Second here. I was getting a phone call, dana, as this happened, give Me One Second to get this full screen. The final i know means its an indication that the court condones this tremendous lapse in judgment or the unprofessional manner of the District Attorneys testimony during the evidentiary hearing. So during that course of the evidentiary hearing, during her testimony, fani willis called ashleigh merchant a liar. She was the Defense Attorney that first brought forward these allegations and the judge, those saying in his ruling that she came with her own credibility issues on the stand, we should expect youve stayed. Out, the former president s attorney here in this case to launch an appeal. And there are also some Big Questions that still remain here. One principally, when will we see nathan wade file his Resignation Letter . Or when will that happen . And also will the Fulton CountyDistrict Attorneys Office be able to get this case back on track for a trial date before the november election. Client dana such good questions. And nic, if thats Somebody Calling with a hot scoop, get back, get back on the aaron tell us what it is. Okay. Thanks, dana. You got it. Thanks. And we still still have not heard from fani willis, his office, as you just heard from nick, but Donald Trumps lead attorney, steve sadow, said, this. He said while respecting the courts decision, we believe the court did not afford appropriate significance to the prosecutor prosecutorial misconduct of willis and wade. He went on to say that he would continue can you to fight to end this case, which should never have been brought in the first place, are excellent legal panelists are here to give their expertise and also more reporting. Cnns paula reid, cnns laura coates, and former dekalb County District attorney, jay tom morgan. Im going to start with you. Theyre down in georgia. Jay tom morgan just The Big Picture you know, fani willis, you certainly have worked alongside her, if not directly with her. Whats your reaction to this ruling . A dan its a slap to the head to the prosecutor, but not a fatal knocked down clutching. She can stay in the case the judge said, what weve been saying all along. Theres not an actual conflict. Theres no finding that theres a financial interest. Or personal interests in the conviction of the defendants however, you didnt ban, as you know, what appearance of a conflict which gave him a continuum of remedies. And he decided the remedy here is that she can either dismiss herself from the case or dismissed mr. Wade from the case, which she should have done from the very beginning, to be honest. Okay. Here in the room, paula what are you hearing from your sources out there who are involved in this . About how this case will go forward and the trouble with which it will go forward or maybe not well, look, theres no expectation right now among folks. Ive talked to in and around this case that this will go before the election. Fani willis hit originally said she wanted to start this case, which is expected to last four to six months by august. But this process to disqualify her has taken up quite a bit of time. Now, nathan wade is expected to have to be removed from the case. So its highly unlikely see that this will start before the election and also look, i think we talk about delay, delay, delay that the trump strategy. Yes, they tried to do that, but theyre getting a lot of help on not only for example, from the Supreme Court that took up the issue of immunity when they could have done that months ago, push that one of the federal cases back. But also here you have the conduct here, even though other there was finding of corruption the fact that they had to go through this, this to analyze this pattern of bad behavior, this really did help the trump team not only in terms of delaying it, but also an undermining the credibility of the overall Justice System and the prosecutions against trump. Yeah, thats how they feel theyre like, look, if fani willis can stay on the case, but we feel like for our other goals here this is working for us and pick up on that last point, laura and as you do, i just want to read for our viewers a little bit more of what judge scott mcafee said. He said, quote, yet reasonable questions about whether the District Attorney and her hand selected lead s. Ada, Meaning Nathan Wade testified on truthfully about the timing of the relationship further underpinned the finding of an appearance of impropriety how how does that kind of slap as we just heard, or that kind of Admonishment Who Effect Prosecuting a case like this . No prosecutor wants to enter a courtroom. Had everyone think about their a personal life or question their own credibility because youre going to be putting Forth Evidence through witnesses of course, any statement by an attorney in the courtroom is not evidenced. But what they put through a witness wood beam. But still a jury would know and look at them and perhaps think, should i believe what they say h i gave the benefit of damage to extend that Face Value Argument to this person or not. Theres no guarantee that she would actually be the one to try this case anymore than jack smith would stand before a jury . Very and say jackson, let me half the people the United States of america, but it is something that is to take into consideration the judge address this though data. He did not find an actual conflict that rose to the level of prejudicing the the defendants or could undermine their chance at a fair trial. And he went on to say, listen, there is enough time before a jury trial could be in paneled to dispense with a permanent taint on this jury. And so hes aware that there is amnesia that can set in. Shes elected official as is he. They have chosen her to be there Fulton County da. Remember this hearing did nothing to talk about the underlying facts in this its case and consider the balancing test here. Yes, the salacious details, the Credibility Assessments made by this judge, problematic, not what any prosecutor wants, but shes going to be asking a jury to weigh, not herself, not her relationships but the conduct of over a dozen defendant will a jury find that more problematic or less than her own . I dont want to bring a j. Trump back in one second, but just to follow up theres also the practical if assuming that he goes her lead prosecutor, how much does that hobble her ability to actually get the case together . Its hard. You have to replace its that Person Backfill and get people up to speed on the grand jury testimony. A lot of what prosecutors are relying on is the perfect memory of what the tone, the context of a witnesss testimony was. I remember. I want to bring that in because heres how it son to my grand jury. Heres how they leaned in. Heres how they were in some way provoked to anger and a visceral reaction reading a Transcript Being brought up to speed to tune of more than two years worth of investigation. Very hard to do. Yeah. I mean, i cant even imagine jay tom. I want our viewers to listen to a bit of what fani willis said on the stand that might have gotten the judge so angry. Lets listen youve been intrusive into peoples personal lives. Youll confuse, you think im on trial. These people are on trial for trying to steal an election in 2020. Im not on trial no matter how hard you try to put me on trial. Now just to be clear, she was talking to one of the Defense Attorneys who was bringing up at this this motion against or not, the judge, but the judge didnt like that and other ways that fani willis behave as she was very clearly annoyed and trying to defend herself dj thom im sorry, dan, was that a question . Yeah. Yes, thats a question. When you look at that and you see what the judge did and said about moments like that. Whats your takeaway . Yeah. Well, i want to allude to what laura just mentioned a few minutes ago. My experience in trying highprofile cases that jurors have a memory of a gnat. By time this case goes to trial. But its been there not even going to know what we are talking about today. And if you add into that the defense, i am sure it will file immediately for an immediate certificate of review, which is completely and the discretion of judge mcafee. But if he grants it, this case could go over years. So i mean, i take what youre saying, but even in a highprofile case like this, i mean, im guessing most of the cases that you tried in georgia, were not National International headlines, not to say that they werent important, but they didnt have to do with the former president and potential future president of the United States yes, i did try one that had state and national headlines. And again, by time we tried it, there was a lot of just a gift coldness yeah, okay thats thats interesting, paula, you mentioned this and i just talked about this yesterday, but because its another de and things change one look again at the overall timeline for not just this, but the other three trials that are pending for donald trump. And the timeline, the classified documents case. The earliest we would see the trial is in august waiting for a judge to rule on that federal election case. That date is dependent on what the Supreme Court does. First of all, about immunity of the Georgia Election case, were talking about now data uncertain. And then overnight there was a bit of a change in the hush money case. The trial is scheduled still for march 25th, but both sides are asking for a delay. Yeah, a lot can change in 24 hours yesterday, i believe i said this is the only candidate is expected to go before the election, then you are cush many case the District Attorney framing it as the 2016 election interference case. But late last night, the District Attorney we revealed that they are not opposed to a 30 day delay in this case. Now, the need for the delay is because theres now Tens Of Thousands of pages of evidence that they have to review. And this came from the Southern District of new york. Federal prosecutors this is a state case right now, dana, there are a lot of questions about why there are suddenly Tens Of Thousands of pages of discovery that they need to look at two weeks before this trial was scheduled to start. Now, both sides have their version. The trump lawyers, they argue that this evidence was withheld by the manhattan District AttorneyThe Other Side argues, in fact, that the trump team weighted to subpoena this evidence, but this was this was really startling because this was the only case that was firmly on the calendar. Well see how long the judge the judge delays this the Defense Attorneys are asking for 90 days. He could split the middle, but look, if he done the middle, but if he delays is for 60 or 90 days. Dana, that increasingly complicated calendar gets even more crowded and more complicated. This one, i cannot say for certain that former President Trump will face any criminal case before the election is likely but its not certain how much if i screw up with this in new york. Well, the fault does not rest. It seems with alvin bragg, the da in manhattan. Why . Because these documents were not in his possession. Every prosecutor has to turn over documents through the discovery process because it could include exculpatory material. You may people say things like brady evidence, which means things that could prove that youre actually innocent. I got to turn that over because otherwise, the weight of the government, again, you is entirely unfair and there is no due process that may or may not be contained in these documents or could be harmful documents to trump as well. But if youre the defense, youre going to be standing up there, pounding the table that you have had things withheld from you, whether you like it or not. The fdny i believe was the one who was asked for the material over a year ago by alvin braggs office. They did not provide it. Now that doing so that doesnt matter to the average american listing. They all they hear is the government did not hand over documents in the case where the person who was the defendant already says weaponized government but at the end of the day, its better to have happened now as opposed to in the Rearview Mirror when they wouldnt had a stronger case of some sort of misconduct and apparently, im being told that just now the trump team sent a letter to the judge saying 30 days is not enough. Yeah. So delay its really its really surprising everybody. Thank you. So what a great conversation, jay tom, thank you. Paula youre going to stick around much more on trumps legal travails coming up, including The Big Question thats hovering over the campaign. 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