To be inseparable oh, no the Associated Press picked up the nyu story. Thats going to be in every paper. Ive been out. It wasnt even everyones going to think okay, not that theres anything wrong with that not that theres anything wrong with it. I michelson were counted in philadelphia with a question, how many among us are accurately described as lgbtq plus, according to gallup, the number is on the rise and reached an alltime high in 2023 gallops analysis was based on a survey of 12,000 adults 18 and older, and founded 7. 6 identify as lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender, or queer . The data illustrates both agender, end, generational divide. Women are nearly twice as likely as menn do identify as lgbtq plus 8. 5 of women, 4. 7 of men, and nearly 30 of gen z women, those aged 18 to 26, identify as such most of them as bisexual. Each Younger Generation is about twice as likely as the generation that preceded it is selfidentify this way, only 1 of the Silent Generation the youngest of whom are in their late 70s now identified as lgbtq plus compared to 2. 3 of baby boomers. 4. 5 of gen x, nearly one in ten of millennials. And more than one in five of gen z adults so what accounts for those differences . Surely some of it can be attributed to more honest reporting. It makes sense that as society is increasingly and appropriately accepting different gender identifications, more would be willing to truthfully tell pollster how they identify where in the past perhaps they would have been reluctant to say so. Although unless were evolving, that itself would not explain the difference between the ages nor the differences in gender are there really that many fewer lgbtq plus among the old than the young wouldnt boomers be as willing as gen zers to selfidentify of course, determining the size of these communities has long been the source of both study and conjecture in the category of study, there was famed biologists Alfred Kinsey in 1948, he concluded that eight to 10 of the male population was gay kenzie relied entirely on volunteers for his study, 25 of his sample size. Were prisoners. And in 1953, he concluded the two to 6 of females were quote, homosexual in the realm of conjecture. After september 11th, i did My Own Cocktail Napkin analysis. Kenneth are feinberg was the Special Master of the fund created by congress to compensate the victims of 911. Feinberg, approve the compensation of surviving gay partners, enabling them to claim survivor benefits, which averaged about one point when 85 million if we assume kinsey was correct, then roughly 300 of the 3,000 victims would have been gay or lesbian. Of course know 10 of any segment of society can be relied upon to be in a committed relationship still, there were only 22 known surviving partners who were compensated. Thats less than 1 of 911 victims perhaps the pool was unrepresentative of society at large, but those killed on september 11, did include a pretty wide crosssection men, women, blacks, whites, americans, foreigners, cops firefighters, bus boys, brokers the young and the old heres a different maybe more scientific approach to the question. Seth stevens, divid widths is a brilliant harvard educated phd and data scientist. He took his own shot at discovering the truth behind the number of gay men in america based on an analysis of pornography using Google Analytics for his book, everybody lies big data, new data, and what the internet can tell us about who we really are. I like his approach, no leading questions, no judgmental stairs, no social pressures, just you and the Google Search bar that can answer your deepest questions. Concerns using data from Google Trends and google adwords, he found that of the men that search for porn, about 5 of those searches are for gay male porn interestingly, he found that theres parody in those searches between what would be thought of as gay friendly states and less tolerance states for example, of the men who live in mississippi who searched for born 4. 8 are for gay male porn, which is fairly close to 5. 2 of men who search for gay male porn in rome what island . Heres his conclusion. So how Many American men are gay by this measure of pornography searches by men roughly 5 are samesex. Seems a reasonable estimate of the true size of the gay population in the United States . Heres one more analysis. Gene, guangxi, a frequent guest on this program, the Psychology Professor best known for her book, i gen. Studies generations. In fact, that was the title of her most recent book. And in it, dr. 20 looked at the growth of lgb identification among gen zers. Heres what she found as it turns out, the changes are driven almost exclusively by an increase in bisexual people, particularly bisexual women. And more than twice as many young women identified as bisexual in 2021 as did in 2015, a huge change in just six years. In addition, the number of menn identifying as bisexual doubled in the household postsurvey, 23 of gen z women identified as bisexual twice as many as among millennial women, eight times as many as among gen xers. And an incredible 32 times as many as among silence and boomers heres her conclusion. Being exclusively gay or lesbian hasnt changed much. But being bisexual has. Look, i get how changing levels of societal acceptance would impact once willingness to tell a pollster a stranger how they identify but does that alone account for the increase do you really think that there are more gay people among us today then decades past, because ive always thought of it as a function of birth. Its not nature and nurture its nature so are the numbers really booming and wheres this going to lead which means if we follow this trajectory, we will all be gay in 2015 i want to know what you think. Go to my website. Its were cottage. Com and vote on todays Poll Question is the increase of those who identify as lgbtq plus more a result of comfort in reporting or actual Growing Numbers. Joining me now is lydia saad director of Us Social Research for gallop, which if you did this new survey that ive been relying upon, lydia. Thank you so much for being here. What stands out to you, the expert in all this data goodness, well, you know, weve been following this, these 2012, so people often say whats surprising about it. Its not surprising because weve seen this trend coming through one thing thats not in the data that weve put out that i think is worth noting is you know, weve weve tracked an increase over time by generation and increase in selfidentification as lgbt and were looking at it by generation, which i think is very profound because we are dealing with people who have grown up very culturally different times. And this gen z has had very unique experiences in terms of coming of age at a time when a majority of americans, for the first time support samesex marriage, believe its morally acceptable. And in fact, the Supreme Court made samesex marriage legal during their lifetime. So youre talking about this is going to jokes about by certain time were all going to be gay when we look at that very young gen z group in our sample, that are 18 to 26. You look at them age, by age. Theres really no difference. Its not like the younger ones are more likely to identify them. The old there ones i think were looking at a group that has a very unique set of experiences. And as a group they have a higher rate of expression of lgbt than older generations because of those very profound societal changes that have happened changing the way their experiences, young people versus our in older peoples experiences so i totally get the changes and i also understand the societal changes, but wouldnt you think that the proportionate number of those who are properly classified as lgbtq plus would be the same among boomers as it would among gen zers. In other words, is it simply a Reporting Issue that theyre more comfortable in being candid with gallup when youre contacting them, when you expect to find the same number among boomers you know, i think your intro covered some really interesting things in that you get different measurement with different modes. So if youre telling, if youre interviewing by phone you have one set of dynamics influencing how someone is going to be willing to reveal themselves if its by web, it might be something different. If its analyzing Google Searches is going to be something very different. So what we have is a consistent measure by Telephone Trends but what is truth is going to be partly an active detective work, right . Piecing together many different things. So kelips, offering 11 line of data thats consistent and we can tell you for sure over time, this is the change in the percentage of people who selfidentify in these way. It doesnt mean its completely accurate, but its telling you that in this framework, this was willing to express this identity. And yes increase yeah. Sorry, lydia, i said in the setup that i noted that the generational shift was significant, but also the Gender Difference among gen zers and other generations. Will you say a word about that . Um, its kinda goes beyond the data in this poll. But, you know, men and women are different and young girls, lets call them under 18, have different experiences coming into adulthood than young men and i just think this those things have to we explored to understand it. Again, its what are people willing to say on the phone to someone else and just just to put, you know, i just dont think we can underestimate the changes that have happened over time just to give your viewer is just a tangible idea of that. Like i said, the gen z that came into adulthood in the last few years came in a very tolerant world the millennial, Millennium Alleles that came before them. They turn 18. 19, 99. And in that year, gallup found only 35 of americans they or lesbian marriage should be legal if you go up to gen x, those people who are in their 30s and 40s and 50s, excuse me not only when we asked him the question about samesex marriage then, but we found majorities of americans didnt think you should be a dr. Teacher, a clergy member. If you were and the majority thought it should be illegal so they were very different consequences for coming out in the 80s versus the 90s, versus the 2000s. No doubt. No doubt. Yeah. So i think once we clear, its a good lets be clear on this. Its a wonderful thing that acceptance has grown at the pace that it has there are some just unexplained questions and all the data liddy assad. Thank you so much. That was fascinating. I appreciate it thank you, michael keep the social media responses coming from the world of youtube. Catherine, what do we have not Growing Numbers, just people admitting who they are. Your bigotry shows to even suggest people are making it up. My bigotry, im analyzing gallops data and raising questions that are entirely appropriate. So thank you for watching. Remember i wanna know what you think. Go to my website. Its were conscious. Com and answer this question is the increase of those who identify as lgbtq plus more result of comfort in reporting or are the numbers actually growing up ahead a new report commissioned by the state Department Warns that Artificial Intelligence poses catastrophic National Security risks can america protect itself from such threats . Admiral james staff redis, he led the nato alliance, is an expert in cybersecurity. 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