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CNNW Trump July 3, 2024

Almost every day in the United States senate giving a floor speech in his opening, where he would talk about the importance of this issue. So its a very big de for minority leader get our Mitch Mcconnell as well thats a really good point. All right, lets see what happens. Its good to see you, lauren. Thank you very much a new our of Cnn News Central and our special Live Coverage of Donald Trumps trial back in court starts right . Now cnn breaking news coverage. Of the criminal trial of donald trump here in New York City. I am not too far from the courthouse right now where trump is about to face a Hearing Being on a gag order that is before testimony resumes the first witness who will be there is david. He was on the Stand Briefly Yesterday he will get right back on that stand at 11 00 a. M. Today. But first very shortly, we can see donald trump walk through these halls, enter the courtroom, and then a hearing im going to if he has violated a gag order over the last several days with all kinds of posts on social media that have at least directly or obliquely mentioned winning this is, in this case, lets go right outside the courthouse now seen as Brynn Gingras standing by brynn, what do we expect to see yeah, john, lets first just remind viewers of what that gag order is. It was put in place hes against donald trump at the end of march. Essentially, the judge said to trumps, you cannot post you cannot talk disparagingly about the jury in this case, witnesses, court staff, and their Family Members members. And since that was put in place, prosecution has said that he has violated that at least ten times, and theyre asking the judge to fine trump, but thousand dollars for each of those fines, they also would like the judge to remind donald trump, listen, youre the criminal defendant in this case, and he should be treated as such essentially saying that lake all criminal defendants, hes subject to courts supervision. So what well be looking out to see is will the judge fine him . Will he threatened him, possibly going to jail for violating this gag order . What are of course, its no secret and his civil trial that happened last year, donald trump was fine. That wasnt of dollars for violating the gag order against him for that trial. More then once. So certainly, we are looking out to see how the judge handles this trump and his defense has said, listen, i have people like a main witness in this case, Michael Cohen lashing out at me. I have to be a both to defend myself, so we expect that argument to be said in court today. That gag hearing kicks off when court kicks off at 9 30. And as you said, the former president is inside the courthouse right now speed in order. The two i think main driving forces behind judge juan merchan, well watch him in play very short currently, brin, thank you very much for that. With me here, cnn anchor Kaitlan Collins, and seeing a chief Legal Affairs correspondent paula reid. Paula, you understand youve got some new reporting on how the trump team intends to address this first issue today. Thats right. Well see some familiar for arguments during todays hearing. Theyre gonna argue that this gag order is unconstitutional. They emphasize the fact that trump is a candidate for the white house. And they tried to argue that this is ill political speech, the things that he says about this trial. Now so far that has not been as argument as we all know, there are limits to political speech. And this is the first time weve ever had white house as a criminal defendant. He is subject to some limitations including this gag order, but theyre going to focus on three specific people today that they believe should not be covered by this guy border the first is the judge juan merchan, who is not covered by the gag order, but theyre going to revisit the issue of him being conflicted. Thats what they argue because of his daughters political work on behalf of some democrats. Now, she is now covered by the gag order, so theyre going to bring that up and argue that that they believed that is not that should not be legal. In other also going to focus on a familiar target, Michael Cohen and heres a course, a witness in this case, trump can attack witnesses, but theyre going to point out that this is unilateral. Yes, that is how good how gag order work. The defendant Cannot Attack witness but if you take a look at Michael Cohen, social media, he is calling trump things that i cant even report on air and theyre going to argue that that is unfair, then theyre also going to take a bit one of the process nike colangelos, and theyre going to say that look the back that trump cant speak out about him means that trump cant talk about the time that a prosecutor spent at the Biden Justice department thats very common for prosecutors to spend time at the justice department, then go to other highprofile prosecuting offices. But these are going to be the key arguments that theyre going to focus on today. Theyre also going to try to argue that when hes quoting, were seeing of quote, more on social media as opposed to coming up with original attacks that, that should not be covered by the gag order. Hes quoting someone else. We saw him he was last week it came out with a stack of articles and he was quoting from them. They say that if that is covered by the gag order, him quoting someone else. They believe its overbroad know im not sure any of these are going to be successful arguments, but this is how theyre going to lay it out. And i think when it comes to Something Like Michael Cohen, when how these are unilateral in the court of public opinion, the average voter might say, yeah, that seems fair, but legally speaking, this is the way it works. Yeah, it is interesting. Im so sorry, just because the everything that trumps to be talking about on social media and out loud concerns this hearing, not actually the testimony on the Witness Stand in this case. It has already begun. It almost seems that this hearing is where he wants to focus to be and, you know, its interesting to see how the judge is going to take those arguments from the trump team so far, he has not responded well to them because remember, he issued a gag order after trump ed continued attacking people in the das office attacking the judges family emily, then he expanded that gag order. And so the question really is how hes going to handle this because obviously the District Attorneys Office is asking for fines, whether or not that actually is something the deterrence trump from continuing could be another problem and challenge for judge merchan in the future, but also tough is not just talking about the judges daughter or about the lead prosecutor here who is making that Opening Statement yesterday. Hes also now talking about the jury, which is also forbidden by this gag order. And he was in an interview last night, john and i just want you to listen to what he had to say about the jury thats yuri was pick so fast 95 democrats the areas mostly all democrat. You think of it as just a purely democrat area. Its a very unfair situation that i can tell you so in the gag order, hizon even say anything about the jury. Hizon substituent other people to say anything about the jury. And so we talked to some legal but experts lost. Now you said they do believe thats also a violation of the gag order. Its not expected to be brought up today. Maybe the prosecution will bring it up but it just speaks to we already had a concern yesterday with this hearing got started that der was worried about the attention that they were getting all ready and weve seen obviously, ill this judge has had a lot of concern about the impact of trumps statements when the judicial proceedings. I was talking about the jury right there out loud. Yeah. I think this is really going to have to be a focus for the dej at it. Im glad that you flagged a sound bite because of of course, you want to protect all the witnesses. You want to protect the prosecutor, Family Members, but the fact is, when it comes to the jury, if they have a Critical Mass of jurors who eventually just dont feel safe and are being targeted. There could potentially be a mistrial if you get to fewer than 12 jurors, the defense would need to agree to do it with 11, which obviously theyre not going to do so i think the judge has to spain hey, special attention today to how the gag order protects and covers the jury. And just to be clear, this jury isnt sequestered. There a dentist appointments. Theyre coming in a little bit later this morning. Theyre not supposed to Pay Attention to media and whats covered out there, but its hard not to hear these things. And also, when trump says theyre 95 democrats, hes not just talking about the demographics thats a criticism coming from donald trump. And i should note, obviously his legal team had a role in picking this jury. They actually felt like they did. They had a more favorable jury pool than they expected. Not something thats likely to be considered today, but trump has also said it would be his quote, great honor to be jail for violating this gag order. So a very difficult position for the judge to be in. We got a shot from inside again, the courthouse right there, whether or not we see people move we shortly we will we will tell you when it happens, caitlin, after this hearing. Of course, david gets back like up on the stand and i have to say i was glued to the tv all day yesterday to both of you out here discussing his testimony, watching it unfold, at least with the banners on the side of the Screen Reading out loud what was taking place. He says he engaged in Checkbook Journalism that sets the table for what today do you think . Yeah. Well, and just a reminder for everyone. Obviously, we dont cameras its inside the courtroom, thats as close as we get right outside the courtroom door that the trunk goes into, but well have the statement of what is actually being said. What is david picker being asked . Whats the answer . And todays going to get interesting because we know what the prosecution is driving app, which is that august 2015 meeting with Michael Cohen, donald trump, and david where they were talking about how he could help suppressed stories that is there, threepronged narrative that theyre making here, which is that he wanted to help publish good stories for trump killed negative stories and smear his opponents. And that what, what efforts did he take to do that . So its going to be fascinating because david is not someone whos criticizing donald trump online like Michael Cohen they go. Way back. They are confidence he was someone who wanted to help donald trump get into the white house. He was invited to the oval office. So to see him on that Witness Stand today, now that he and truck no longer speak, when we fascinated and he was smiling in the courtrooms, smiling on the stance, smiling as he walked past. The Defense Table, Paula Michael moore, our friend from georgia it says that a jury likes a story. Yeah. So what is the story that david is going to tell them . Why is it so important to get that out there . He is such a critical witness to set the stage for the prosecutions case, because while david packer was not directly involved in the hush money to Stormy Daniels or in the alleged paperwork crimes he was part of an effort to suppress negative stories about then Candidate Trump and to amplify a bad stories about his opponents that could help him. And thats why we go back to this 2015 meeting where he agreed to be trumps eyes and ears. Let him know what he was hearing. And eventually after he suppressed to negative stories at through the National Enquirer for trump, he gets when to the fact that Stormy Daniels wants to sell her story or prices too steep. So she passes the information along to Michael Cohen. So not only is he significant for laying out to the groundwork for this Hush Money Payment . Hes also going to establish that this was a pattern. And why were they doing this was just because he was a friend, was it just because he he really admired . No it was not just that. It was to help him get elected. And that is the crux of the prosecutions case. So david quite the character ive got a couple giggles on the stand yesterday as they were talking about his time, the National Enquirer, but he is key to framing the prosecutions case as the first witness. Again, we will see him on the stand at 11 00 today. 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Martin sunday at nine on cnn so right now donald trump is at court in Lower Manhattan where moments from now, the judge overseeing it all will hear arguments and decide if donald trump violated a gag order. The da says they have they have at least ten examples that trump has already. If the judge agrees he then must decide what penalty donald trump will face joining us now to talk about this and also whats going to happen after that is cnn senior legal analyst, elie honig nic ackerman, a former assistant special watergate prosecutor, guys, thank you for being here. Ellie, we walk us through what exactly this Gag Order Covers and also, if trump is pushing against the limits, just pushing ag

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