Nonstudents that are there. So once they give the order to clear the campus than the police this will begin to move in. I see they have less lethal munitions and so forth available. Hopefully they do not have to use them again, that as a last resort therell begin by trying to just physically move people physically, remove them, and take them to the transport vehicle. Chief ramsey, i appreciate your time. Nick watt as well, the news continues right here. In it out front next pecker In The Hot Seat and a man who covered him for years is my guess why he says he will not hold back tomorrow. This is trump dares the judge to put them in jail plus propalestinian protests grow across the United States. I was on the campus of Columbia University today, i spoke with the embattled speaker of the house who was there his message to the president of Columbia University as his job is on the line and move over moscow. Marjorie, because russia has a new favorite republican and we will unveil it for you tonight. Lets go out front good evening im Erin Burnett Out Front tonight, not holding back. The man who covered david pecker is every move is boss of the National Enquirer tells out front the pecker is going to tell all tomorrow when hes back on the stand, keith kelly, who covered pecker for decades for the New York Post, says pecker will not be holding back my guest tonight has a whole lot more to say about peckers testimony. And that testimony is going to include all the details about the Hush Money Payment to Stormy Daniels. Pecker will be asked about it in detail when hes back in Court Tomorrow morning. And remember, pecker was the one who helped broker the deal between Michael Cohen, trumps fixer, and former attorney and Stormy Daniels. And this whole deal was about keeping daniels quiet about an alleged affair with trump. Here is the secret audio tape between Michael Cohen and trump himself. I need to open up a company for the transfer of all the info regarding friend david so that im going to do that right away. Ive actually come up and ive spoken to Allen Weisselberg about how to set the whole thing up with where we are funding that yes and its all the stuff i mean trump on tape. So what do we got to pay for this one 50. And our friend david, that theyre referring to is david pecker. And tomorrow that friend because now i put that in quotes. Apparently theyre not speaking will be just feet away from trump speaking about daniels and all of these details. Meanwhile, daniels close friend told us exclusively that daniels is scared. She said that the threats have been increasing and getting scarier just since the trial began, she told me so just in these past few days but she told me that Stormy Daniels is ready to testify if called. Beringia and grass begins our Coverage Outfront live here in new york and brin, what more you learning about what we can expect here and just hours when court is back in session yeah aaron listen you hit it right on the head. There. Were talking about david pecker. Amanda has been friends with Donald Trumps since the 80s, sitting right across from him in witness dan, just feet away from the former president as he stares him down, giving these dirty details about this catch and kill scheme in full detail. That is what we are expecting more of tomorrow. And that all started of course, as weve learned from the testimony in august 20 when they made that deal between trump, Michael Cohen, and david pecker about being the eyes and the ears of the campaign and how they were going to find the stories that were negative about trump are salacious about trump, bury them and promote stories that were positive ahead of that campaign. They went into detail about that Trump Tower Doorman who had a story about a woman who claimed that she fathered a child or he fathered a child of her for us and then before court wrapped up and david pecker was done for the day they got into the details of but another playboy playmate, Karen Mcdougal, who of course alleged affair a width down, donald trump going to the National Enquirer with her story in june of 20 16s. And really worrying trump according to a peckers testimony, so much so that Michael Cohen was badgering him for more information about exactly what Karen Mcdougal had on Donald Trumps. So thats where it left off. But very tense moment in the testimony by the prosecution that is where we are going to pick up and then likely very likely get into those details that you just talked about. With what happened with the Stormy Daniels incident. Now its very important to put this all into context, right . David pecker is a huge witness for this prosecution because again, trump so has 34 charges of falsifying business records, right . Thats a misdemeanor. They need to connect the dots for jurors as to why this is a felony to cover up another crime david pecker is one of those witnesses. Hes also going to help corroborate another major witness of course, Michael Cohen. So theres a lot to get to you when court resumes tomorrow, in addition to that, were still of course, waiting to hear how the judge is going to rule on that gag order. We still dont know with that if theyre ruling is going to come tomorrow or when. But certainly a lot of details there that were waiting in four our brand. Absolutely. And of course, that ruling could come at any time and our experts are all here with me, keith kelly, so no reporter covered david pecker longer than you have have covered him, former New York Post media columnist. So you know this and you know him. He is set to take the stand again tomorrow and hes been granted immunity in exchange for this testimony. Wasnt that he wanted to be here necessarily, but hes gotten immunity. And you think that he wont hold back i dont think he will he will not hold back at all. He has nothing to lose now his Immunity Deal is basically he has to testify and Tell The Truth if he doesnt Tell The Truth, the deals off. So hes under the gun and its probably smiling inwardly that he is not in the same seat that down trump is in or that Michael Cohen is in his testimony, he turned rat on then Michael Cohen and thats why Michael Cohen went to jail so it could have been just as easily them sweating pecker and he could have gone to jail. So so Everything Everything will come out. I think everything he has nothing to hold back. Hes probably relieved that he can actually honestly Tell The Truth so jeremy, youve been inside the courtroom, right . So youve seen trump as pecker started the start testimony, weve seen a bit up. Youve seen trump watching pecker, pecker watching trump, each of them watching the other one watch. I mean, youre really getting the dynamics and the Body Language here. So what is your sense about how they feel about each other guys have known each other for decades, were friends . Yeah. As much of a sense of the word is probably either one of them have friends. Now far from it the one there was really only one light moment in Court On Tuesday and that was when the prosecutor just steinglass, he asked david pecker two its basically identified donald trump, who is donald trump in the courtroom . Can you point at what was he wearing . Any pointed to trump and he said, hes wearing a blue suit and that was the only time where we saw the present former president. He stood up, he sat up in his chair and he gave us smirk literally the only smile i saw him flashed the entire de of describing a smirk i would say it was this mark, it was, you know, one of the faces he likes to give he was he trump was paying attention. I think, especially when david pecker took the stand on monday, trump was very focused on his testimony, i think on tuesday as its settled in and we listened him speak for hours. Trumps sort of dial back, you lean back in his chair. He shuffled through his papers and i think he was a little less focused on every word that he was saying. Well, its gonna be tomorrow is going to be a crucial de, what more do prosecutors need from david pecker right now, right. So hes done a tremendous job for them. The opening presentation already in some Sense Corroborating what Michael Cohen will say down the line. But i think there are a of other pieces so evidence that we know are probably coming. David pecker nose from a december conversation directly with donald trump and Michael Cohen. What the financial arrangement was because Michael Cohen wasnt being paid at the time and s pecker to intervene and prevail upon the president elect at the time to pay him. So he knows about their conversation. And then theres a Big One Summer 2017, the president of the United States invites david pecker to his, to the white house to thank him for helping him on the campaign. Thats an important nexus because the entire theory of the cases that all of this Hush Money Payments schemes were related to trying to win the election and theres the president from the meeting. Thank him successfully doing what he is alleged to have done. Nothing like a meeting where you thank somebody for doing Something Else youve done. So too early. Okay. Now you are looking at this from the defense side of things. Given all of that then hes going to pecker is going to go under crossexamination by trumps team. So what are they going to do . They have to do a lot. Aaron. And heres why he gives them pecker. Does the conspiracy and the coverup thats the theory of the case. Speaking about the issues of the meeting and what was arranged at the meeting. And so you gotta go after him. The first thing youre going to do is to start with this nonprosecution agreement. So youre here sorry. Because you have a deal. Is that correct . And that deal means does that youre not going to be prosecuted and youre saying to Tell The Truth, whose truth is that . Objection, but heres the reality. The reality is is that you have to hit them hard. He gave you and lets start here. He talks about how trump is so meticulous, how he monitors everything. What does that mean . It means that the defense saying he didnt know anything about ledgers, he didnt know anything about invoices right through pecker. It shows he knows everything. You arent in those meetings. You dont know how he runs his organization, you dont know what he does with those ledge. You have to get them away from having knowledge of the organization in addition to that, you werent in meetings with Michael Cohen and mr. Trump, you dont know what trump said to him, if anything, that is Michael Cohen with respect to conversations with you, whether he is acting on the loyalty fealty, et cetera, you have to go out them a bit. They may have been friends before, but now im not so sure they need to be friends now, im just looking here at our quote, when trump and cohen and theyre talking about it in trumps says to cohen. So what do we got to pay for this one 50 i mean, you know, there there is the reality that you have low 40. I hope there are tapes. Jim comey okay. So jerry george worked for the National Enquirer for nearly 30 years as the la bureau chief, he came on the show a few years ago. He has since passed away, but i want to play something he told us this is about trump and pecker in their relationship. And he told us this all the way back in 2018 curious david pecker knows where the bodies are buried. David pecker knows all of the trumps stories that were, that were killed. All the story leads he, he pretty much you know, that knows the worst of president trumps personal life ill the implication there being that what the American Public knows is not anywhere near the worst and the context here, keith if your name is mike cohen or Stormy Daniels, trumps gone after you aggressively yeah david pecker is very curious that he has not attacked him and my theory is that he knows that pecker knows a lot more than hes disclosed. Right now. Hes disclosing Financial Transactions which he thinks he can explain away. But theres probably a lot more and thats gotta be the only reason trump would not attack them because he scared. He doesnt want to stir them up any further than he is. He thinks as long as he sticks to the basic numbers, facts his lawyers can dissuade. Hopefully in trumps view, the jury but we started going in with much more salacious stuff. Which he may know and trump will know he knows that could be a lot worse picture for trump will put as an even more unsavory character if if he knows, what he feels, he knows that could could come out. I mean, that would certainly change the whole well tenor of the situation jeremy interesting, trump hasnt gone after david pecker. There had been he had as part of this process, been critical of a juror or two, but the jurors in that room right now, he has not been. What is his demeanor like when the jurys in the room . It really is. I think different from what weve seen in past cases and even during some portions of this case and one of the things im going to watch for tomorrow is we could get the judges decision saying that he has violated that gag order. We dont know for sure the judge didnt give a timeline, but that could be what we get first thing in the morning and it will be very interesting to see if trump is because as stoic as he was during that hearing is his lawyer was getting attack with some very difficult questions from the judge, and that if that does come in the morning, thats going to set the day where we then go straight from him presumably losing on the gag order to then going into testimony about Karen Mcdougal and Stormy Daniels. And i think to this point, the first two days this trial, he is not really reacted to win the jurys is there. Well see if that changes as the trial moves forward. Is there a risk for trump that david pecker does in any of these questionings come out and reveal new information about trumps personal life that would be very damaging. I think its more that david pecker could reveal that to the public. And trump is running a president ial campaign. I think he would have had to probably told the prosecutors at this Point Everything he knows for them to now come out with new information. Dont see that happening in the trial contexts, but he might know so much information about trumps life over multiple years. That is not necessarily related to this particular scheme or the 2016 election, but much more broadly, but that would be objectionable, right . Obviously, if new things start to be revealed, that a damaging to trump and not onpoint are relevant to the case said offense is going to jump out of their chair for that. Right. And so but i do think you have to keep it really is interesting how dropped the tags everybody else, but pecker is sort of not to this point, been assailed. If his testimony gets any more damaging than it is because he lays the entire foundation of the case. Maybe thatll change two. All right. Well, thank you very much. And these hours before court goes back into session, we do have some more Breaking News here. We have just learned that in Arizona Grand Jury has just indicted more than a dozen of trumps allies who are accused of trying to overturn the election in arizona. This is Significant Development and we have the breaking details on this. Were going to have that free with just as this is coming in after this break. Plus propalestinian protests growing across the United States on College Campuses students have been clashing with police on several today. I was at the campus of Columbia University and i was there with the speaker of the house, mike johnson came to new york with a very specific message tonight. And the nikki haley factor so trumps got a hold on the gop nomination, right . Shes been off the ballot for what i mean in but guess what . She just got a brutal reminder of his challenges heading into the election, thanks to a nikki haleys performance welcome. 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