I wonder what i will be doing . Probably still living here with mom and dad. Fast reliable speeds right where you need them. Thats walltowall wifi with xfinity. Elizabeth wagmeister in la its friday, april 26, right now on cnn this morning, donald while trumps immunity claims and the hands of the Supreme Court, the justices sending some signals about how they might rule a new cnn poll, how voters feel about the former president s claim that hes being treated unfairly and propalestinian protests spreading the campuses across the country as Columbia University struggles to end, a Student Occupation 6 00 a. M. Here in washington, alive. Look at capitol hill on this friday morning. Good morning, everyone. Im kasie hunt. Its wonderful to have you with Us Institution after institution has shied away from taking donald trump on directly. His campaign rivals, the Republican House leadership the Senate Republicans, who didnt convict him he said donald john trump, be is hereby acquitted the charge that after his lawyers assured that behind the scenes that trump could always be prosecuted later if they acquitted him this body is not invited to act as the nations overarching moral tribunal. We have a criminal Justice System in this country we have civil litigation and former president s are not immune from being accountable by either one even the incoming Biden Justice department under Merrick Garland seem to put off accelerating the prosecution until the january 6 committee effectively forced their hand all of these people in washington, they all convinced themselves that someone else, anyone else, or Something Else would take him on, take him down, even which in private they would say they desperately wanted. And they were afraid now it seems to be the conservative Supreme Courts turn. The arguments yesterday suggests they two are going to kick the can down the road instead of quickly deciding one way or the other whether voters will have a chance to consider a convicted or exonerated trump before they all have to vote in the 2024 election. Arguments yesterday suggests that theyre Split Decision will just delay the trial. Most likely well, past november 5, 2024 trumps lawyers now arguing the failure of those Senate Republicans to convict is exactly what lets trump off the hook from criminal prosecution. Now so mr. Sour, youve argued that the Impeachment Clause suggests are requires impeachment to be a gateway to criminal prosecution, right . Yes. I think thats the plain meaning of that second phrase in the clause. Keep in mind that the criminal prosecution of a president , president prior to impeachment contradicts, argue with the plain language constitution, but also hundreds of years of history so its to be left to the voters. But again, the voters may not get the chance to find out if trump is guilty of conspiring to overturn an election until they have to decide whether to send him back to the offit oval office a panels here, lets bring in david fromm, staff writer for the atlantic republican strategist, sarah longwell, former white house senior policy adviser, ashley allison. I thank you all for being here on this friday. David fromm and incredibly consequential day yesterday. And it just seems to me that again, were not going to get an answer to what happened here before the election. Well, i have more sympathy than some for the project the committee in which the Supreme Court finds itself, the law of the presidency. All of it was has accreted on the assumption the president is a good and honest person trying to do his or her best under difficult circumstances and often having to do things that stand before the judgment of history, dropping the bomb on Hiroshima And Nagasaki was that was that a necessary act of selfdefense . Was that a war crime . We still argue about it the system was unready for a Career Criminal to enter the Office Someone who is a Career Criminal, in ways both large overthrowing the constitution, any credibly petty paying hush money to people to, to kill embarrassing stories about himself the Supreme Court has to write a law that will stand that will be there forever and its a consequential thing. They have to do. And we have lots of cases. I was reading about a case today youve probably War Crimes Prosecutions against japanese officials after the Second World War where the Supreme Court hasten to do things to punish bad people that left behind legal regimes that were not sure we want to live with ever afterwards so they happen to i completely take your point, david. I absolutely agree. This is a very weighty thing. But that said they couldnt have done this in december when jack smith asked them to and they didnt. Well, what would it off . What i think they should do here . Something that is, they wont do this. Im afraid, but they could say, look were not going to decide whether the official acts of the president are subject to criminal prosecution. But well leave that for another time. What were going to tell you is overthrowing the overthrowing election. Its not an official act and make a factual finding and it says, as they did in bush versus gore, which embarrassing versus them, but where they, they said look, someone has to do this. Well do it, well say what the president did here are the former president. These are, these are crimes, these are clearly crimes. These, this is a coup. And now he can be prosecuted for those things when we are saying that legal question, we postpone the factual question, we decide here and now it doesnt seem like it, sir, what did you see yesterday . Every time we find ourselves at a new junction on this particular issue, i become deeply enraged because to be mad days, so calmly becomes to blame the Supreme Court for where we find ourselves in this timeline, right . Like i want the voters to know whether or not donald trump will be he convicted of trying to overturn an election before they go vote. But as you pointed out in your leadup, there has been a dereliction of duty all along where the republicans refused to hold him accountable with impeachment doj, why it took so long to get to this point, like we shouldnt be in this position now. And this is where donald trump and his experience in courts and courtrooms and in legal issues, they figured out how to have a delay tactic to get them past the point where he can be held accountable and it looks like minors, there was a the piece and Rolling Stone yesterday where they were celebrating already and it was like they were his people from his campaign and they were saying it doesnt matter where they land on the Immunity Charge because its not really the point. The point is, were going to get this delayed past the point at which americans are gonna go vote. Yeah, i mean, to be clear, i very much when, when i conceive of this and how weve gotten here, its been through just the daytoday coverage of how this has all played out through all of these varioUs Institutions. And yes, now we happen to be here with the court, but ashley allison, it does seem that they are going to have the last word before we actually get to the election of 2024, where people are going to have to to decide. And we know from talking to voters that and from all of our exit polling and our cnn polling, that whether or not hes convicted in this january 6 case actually really matters to them. Yeah this. Case matters more than some other cases because Bill Likelihood with the hush money case that david reference, thats happening in new york right now. We might actually have a verdict before the election itll be a rush, but we could get there. Like i have been really trying to reflect on why were in this situation. Why do the republicans now hold him responsible . Why did it take doj so long why now are we relying on a pretty conservative Supreme Court that many in this country you fill doesnt have a great reputation and is hyper politicized. And i dont think i have the answers to all of that, but what i will say is yesterday i felt like there was a lot of Writing On The Wall. The trunk team is celebrating perhaps because they think theyre going to win in november. And if they win in november, we know that he will throw this case. It goes away and if he those this case out, what does that allow him to do then as president , hes already made really not even just blatant threats of how we would go after people, how would go after folks who dont agree with them . Some of the scenarios that the justices played out yesterday, and im afraid that this Writing On The Wall is suggesting that we could be on this very slippery slope that many people have warned. Some folks warned about january 6 before it, and people werent believing it because his behavior has become so norm one, were so used to it, but we cannot remain complacent. Our institutions will not survive another attack on why hope they will, but they most likely wont survive because i dont think people even understand how close we came on january 6 and david from as we wrap up here you wrote this on twitter yesterday. During the arguments you said, quote, the crux of the problem, it is not actually a hypothetical to ask, what if a president tries to affect a coup detat to retain power after losing reelection, it happened, treating the question as a hypothetical is both a niall and excuse. Yes. I agree with that. That is that he did write it that is we are looking to people to save us when we did not save ourselves, there was an attempted coup. Theres an attempt to seize power by 40, by fraud and then by force, thats a fact and we are struggling to deal with it because we never suppose no one ever suppose. What is the prayer that is inscribed over the mantle in the eastern let none but why is an honest man ever rule under this roof . And they werent all wise. They werent all honest, but we had no one whos both neither wise nor before and now were coping with it all right. Are panels go stick around up next is donald trump being treated fairly as a defendant in his criminal trial voters way in and a new cnn poll plus relied at Columbia University as propalestinian protests enter their tenth de, Were Negotiation Stand and a highstakes meeting. Secretary of state Antony Blinken, meeting with chinese president xi jinping cnn this morning. Brought to you by first sandra, for more information. Visit for sen rad. 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I mean, look, this idea of nobody wants to be the one to actively take on donald trump has been replete through republican politics since he came on the scene. They all want him gone none of them want to do it themselves. They are all say it privately and this is where when you look at the republican primary this time, if youre mike pence, whats your theory of the case for becoming president . Like, could mike pence go to a trump rally without armed security, without being under physical, he could not. Nikki haley, i think she realized maybe during the course or her campaign at the party is completely different. Its like their theory of the case for becoming the actual president wasnt oh, the voters want me. It was like maybe something happens to donald trump. Hes an old man, so maybe something. And also like maybe he goes to jail like that. Was there. Nobodys got a plan a to take them on. Theyve all got a plan b, which is the down trump disappears some way they do nothing to hasten that. Well we dont want to face the truth about what happened. We dont want to face the truth that many of our fellow americans supported it. There parts of it brings into, brings for many painful points in American History because these things are unfortunately want to think there are but they happened to the state level in the 1860s and 1870s. We have, we have seen violent contest for power in the United States before. There was a war in arkansas for the civil war, in which i think good one candidate for governor may have actually literally murdered another candidate for governor, havent seen, we havent, we havent seen it, but its in the dna and we have to do it again. And i think the courts are saying in many ways, were not equipped to this because we are trying to figure out the rights and wrongs of the bounds of president ial power. We are not ready to deal with a situation where such a person has become president of the United States through a freak of the electoral college. And youve had someone who tried to make a literal coup detat of a kind that americans never associate with their own country i do think we did see it january 6. I give you wanted to see it, it happened. You were there we were probably all in the city when it happened. It was very real. It was very scary to even be in the city and there was a whole hearing from the january 6 committee that showed it over and over. And so again, i go to the question about why youre here. The other thing that i have this extra question for you because you talked to Republican Voters way more than i do a lot of republican vote. I hang out with you so heres my question. I understand that theres a base that really support donald trump but that base is not 50 from every the conference. Its 30, right so wheres the 70 of the voters that actually, if elected officials is a politicians who we have all pretty much conceded that weve lost faith in and that theyre not going to be the adults in the room. Where are those 70 of Republican Voters . Why did they not show up . I know during the primary it was because we needed to consolidate the field. I mean, 150,000 of them pa this week did show up and say we still dont want donald trump so why are those 70 of Republican Voters not doing anything . But then in 2020 or two gives me 2022 actually 2020. And in 2023, there