Do you want to make out or . Nope. I meant yes. Hes a bon garcon. I give amazing spongebaths. Can i get a room . [ chuckling ] chefs kiss. Doctors preferred better science, better results im mj lee at the white house, and this is cnn it is just pass 9 00 p. M. Here in new york, dramatic day 11 of the trump hush money trial. Now in the books, former trump adviser, communications director, and onetime close confidante, hope hicks reunited with the foreign president by a prosecution subpoena, or testimony establishing his awareness after he became president of how much he politically benefited by paying for Stormy Daniels. Silence before the 2016 election, whether her tears, which followed were related to her answer on that or just came from the accumulated intention of being on the stand, the emotion of the moment is impossible. Say whether the de was it significant, dramatic end to week three of this historic trial. That is hard to deny. Joining the panel for this, our cnn senior legal analyst, elie honig. Elie, we havent heard from you what stood out to you today. Well, here we are at roughly what iss to be about the mid point of this trial. Were about halfway through. I think if im the prosecutor and i like to think about things this way, i very satisfied with certain elements my case, but im also very worried about other elements. Heres what i think they have. Wrong clearly, donald trump knew about these hush money payments. I dont think theres any real question. Clearly, he wanted the money to be paid and its quite clear to me and hope hicks, i think solidified this today, that it was for a political reason. Yeah, there was a Family Concern too, but there also was a substantial political reason thats the good news the problem is theres nothing so far in this record as it stands now tying donald trump to the accounting behind the fight the financing of those payments. And thats the crime. And its starting to look increasingly like the only actual link theyre going to have showing that yes, donald trump knew the way we structured these reimbursements with all the checks to try to make it look like legal fees. It looks like the only link is going to be Michael Cohen and boy, ive never seen a witness take on more damage before he stepped in the stand, then Michael Cohen has taken on every single witness. Has said hes a horrible person. Hes a liar. I dont think the other piece of evidence is the actual checks that trumps sayyed. The checks help, but they dont answer all the questions. I mean, theres so many responses to that. Does he know exactly what hes paying for . Why is Michael Cohen extracting triple the amount that he paid, paid 130,000. He gets paid back over 400,000. What did Michael Cohen tell them whos going to be able to testify to that. I think the checks are helpful to the prosecution, but they dont get them to the finish line. So let me just explain how a Confidentiality Agreement works in the realworld, not what someone was running for president , but lets talk about a very real scenario. My phone rings, its some dude who cheat on his wife and now the woman says, i want money, or im telling you wife we say, you go get a lawyer. She gets a lot. So theres lawyer the lawyer were talking to each other. Theres a written i have them. They like reforms that its a confidence sheds gag order basically and were going to give you this amount of money over this amount of time and you cant say anything. And if you do this treble damages, so if we give you 1 million and you squeal, now how are you going to give us 3 million the husband doesnt write the check to heart the husband right. To check to my law firm. My law firm puts it in the Escrow Account and sometimes my legal fee is built in there. So hypothetically, if its 100 grand and my legal fee is 10,000, he writes uncheck to 110,000 and the law visited like Dollar Opportunity in cabins. It goes in my Escrow Account 10,000 goes into my operating account, and then i write out the jet from the Aidala Petunia and cabins il or account to her lawyer. He puts it in his Escrow Account and then he pays her. Thats all ethical, legal and theres nothing wrong with it. I think what the prosecution is going to say there was a difference is that donald trump was running for president and they falsified these documents in order to hide the fact that it was hush money. But again, i dont think the proof is there yet that he knew about this level of granular detail. The fact that he signed the check, thats not the crime. The bookkeeping is the crying. I wasnt suggesting that signing the check was the crime, but rather that it indicates that he understood that this was a repayment for the scheme that he was going to get 35,000 over the course of a period of time. I mean, i also think that just the idea that trump simply could have done what you suggested. I think we wouldnt really even be dealing with this but but Michael Cohen took out a loan on his house, paid in advance, waited until after the election to be repaid. I mean, there was an attempt to conceal this arrangement from the public. I think that is pretty clear based on just the timeline of things that happen. Wed gotten the full testimony now for the transcript a nackerud, youve been looking at anything stand out . Yeah. I mean, i think at the moment, if we look at 20 18, this is after Michael Cohen gives a New York Times a statement and says that he paid the uh, hundred and 30,000 without donald trump knowing and then hope hicks is testifying about the next day she talks a donald trump and that hes telling her about his, his conversation you should with Michael Cohen. So what she testifies to is this is when being questioned by the prosecutor, she said, i didnt know michael to be in especially charitable person um, or selfless person. Hes the kind of person who seeks credit. The prosecutor said, did mr. Trumps say anything else about this issue when he told you that michael made the payment . Just that he thought it was a generous some things to do and he was appreciative of the loyalty thats all i remember. The prosecutor says, did he say anything about the timing of the News Reporting regarding picks . Oh, he yes, he wanted to know how it was playing and just my thoughts and opinion about this story versus having the story a different kind of story before the campaign had michael not made that payment . And i think ms mr. Trumps opinion was that it was better to be dealing with it now, and that would have been bad to have had that story come out before the election. So this was the last thing that hope hicks testified when questioned by the prosecutor was what she said before the right. Before the crying. Right. This was the final thing that the prosecutors left the jury hearing her say which was shes saying she doesnt believe the story that Michael Cohen had advanced this money on his own, but also saying that trump was glad that he had to deal with this in 2018 because it would have been much worse to deal with it before the election. Kaitlan asked the former president about the access Hollywood Tape from the scene and town hall last year, i want to play a clip of that there was a Tape Deposition of view from october in it. You defended the comments that you made on that access Hollywood Tape about being able to grab women, how you want. Do you stand by those comments . I said if youre famous and rich or whatever, i said, but i said of your star you are and i said, women led you. I didnt say you grew up. I said women let you didnt use that word. But if you look, women led, you your hours in a deposition that our result should be a storable that are powerful they tend to do pretty well in a lot of different ways, okay and you would like me to take that back . I cant take it back because it happens to be true one, he said, grab them in the audio. Anyone who listened to it as not really private burden. Its not up for dispute to what im so struck by listening back to that now is the video they played in court today for the jury to hear was trump, his video that he put out on twitter after that video came out. I mean, there was the crisis moment as hope hicks testified today, a hurricane was expected to make landfall that night. No one in the news, she said, we dont even know where it made landfall or anything because people were only talking a hurricane, right . In a political sense, obviously. But donald trump it out that Video Apologizing and then in your debate question, he said he was embarrassed. That is language. He does not use anymore no matter what he does or what happens, he never says apologize. Hed never says hes embarrassed. And so it also speaks to how he is changed since 2016 and how he views himself through this political lins as someone who really in his view is untouchable. But in a deposition that wasnt taken not that long ago. He defended the common city made in the video. Well just to underscore that moment when this came out, i were at the time was working for the freedom caucus. Jim jordan was about to go to an event in ohio with mike pence and there was genuine and discussion that he may not go to the event that pence might not show up for the event there was basically a pause on all fronts, even within the rnc debate is this Campaign Even going to move forward . So it is important to remember that context because another bombshell like this, having come out at the time would have been incredibly significant. Well hope hicks who was asked about that on The Stand Today and she talked about paul ryan had an event in wisconsin that trump was supposed to go to and then she said it was sort of the prosecution said that he he turned trump down. She said, actually its more nuanced and she went on to explain that paul ryan reorganized it so that to deemphasize trump and maybe paul ryan wouldnt be there and then she says, trump decided not to go because he was insulted, i guess. And i believe Reince Priebus gotten to try to facilitate that so it wouldnt look like a clean break at the time, but thats thats accurate. I mean, this was a moment where steve bannon loves to tell the story, but they all sat around a Conference Table that people that she was describing who were there as they were in the middle of the debate prep when De Ferran Hold from the post emailed them to say, hey, weve got this really embarrassing audio tape of trump and they kinda went around the room and trump asked if they thought he should drop out and a lot of them, including Reince Priebus, said that they believed he should steve bannon, i believe as he characterizes, it was one of the only people who did not believe, but it was such a moment in the campaign where people did genuinely think trump may drop out of the race. Well, i was also central moment, i will say in the debate prep with they were doing debate prep at that same moment. We were doing debate prep as one of the moderators of that debate. And it suddenly as soon as it hit all our plans for what the first question was going to be. And like energy policy, right . It all it all went up. The window and then there was this whole day long drama Behind The Scenes of how do we ask it . We know exactly whats the wording going to be and whats the followup going to be and sort of planning that all out. I mean, i think what caitlin was saying about trump changing the way he talks about the access Hollywood Tape. That was such a seminal moment for him politically because he one and how do you not won. I think you know, obviously everything would have changed, but the lesson that trump learn from that, similarly from charlottesville when he made the statements about the charlottesville and then he tried to walk it back and ever since then, hes been denying that he ever said there were very fine people on both sides. Trump has learned the lesson, never to walk a thing back. Never ever to walk a thing back. And that has become his i just want to point out the first 30 minutes of that debate were i mean, i was on the stage and Martha Raddatz and nobody knew how this was going to play out. Nobody knew donald trump had held this Press Conference with bill clinton accusers. He had brought them to the debate hall they both walked out there. They didnt shake hands, they didnt shake hands with the moderators the tension, the molecules of the air on that said were charged in that room and i mean, ive done other debates before, never committee of the president ial debate, but primary debates. Ive never experienced a 20 minutes outside of a combat zone that was so charged and just almost anything could have had. And he started following her around on stage. I mean, the whole thing was it was just stunning to be a part of yeah. I mean, i remember i mean, i was covering Hillary Clinton at the time. The fact that he brought bill clintons accusers to that debate created this incredible circus atmosphere, but it also made people believed. That he, was just going to kind of bulldozer through this moment. I think it was kind of a mixed bag on the debate stage, but it was really was because ultimately the end result of all of this probably because there was not another woman or accuser who came forward the end result of all of this was that the access Hollywood Tape didnt sink him. And so he is totally emboldened by that experience. And every other experience that hes had subsequently that has left him empowered after these moments that wouldve killed anybody elses political career, its a revisionist history where hes see how he talked about that then and then look at how he was talking about one year ago. Hes saying thats actually not what i said. Well, you can hear him. The audio tape they played yesterday that Michael Cohen surreptitiously taped of him and donald trump discussing it. Trump posted today they cut off part of it that was actually very positive for him theres no evidence of that. His attorneys did not argue that in court. La as you know, and it was just a moment where he tries to seek to reframe things even when there is, their Document Evidence that there is an audio tape, he tries to basically reframe things and the question is how that plays. They argued this in front of the judge today about the evidence of the chain of custody of that tape and also that the prosecution is saying that a call came in, which is what sort of cut off that call in the defense is trying to raise questions about well, whats the evidence that a call came in and how do you determine that every defendant in history whose then caught on tape always maintains that as soon as that tape ended, something great for them its worth noting that was true much more head different harmful kaitlan just mentioned on the Access Hollywood story that he himself broke. Hes joining us next to the question of whether the former president has, again violated his gag order will show you what he posts on social media the last nine you get a former federal judges take on that as well. 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