Likely it was probably an accidental infection from some hygienic problem in a restaurant or somewhere else . All right. Well, professor gardner, i appreciate your time. Thank you very much. And thanks very much to all of you for being with u. S. Here. Live from milwaukee ac30 60 starts now tonight on three 60 is seen in exclusive President Biden oneonone for the first time, threatening to withhold certain u. S. Weapons if israel invades rafah. Also so tonight, Breaking News after weeks of talking about it far republican Marjorie Taylor greene tries to unseat Republican House speaker mike johnson. But members did about her motion to vacate his chair and what her fellow polygons now, my do about her. Plus what to expect from day two of Stormy Daniels testimony and why the former president s defense team may now want to maximize her time on the stand good evening. Thanks for joining u. S. We begin tonight with Breaking News. President biden today, is that with cnn for a rare exclusive interview during a stop in the battleground, state of wisconsin. He talked about the election which well get to in a moment, but hes making headlines right now for what he set out, israels ongoing war with hamas, which has become the focal point of College Protests in the u. S. And abroad the interview comes with cia bill burns and middle leaves to this moment, working on a ceasefire youre speaking with cnns erin burnett, President Biden for the first time, laying out a new the focal point of College Protests in the u. S. And abroad the interview comes with cia bill burns and middle leaves to this moment, working on a ceasefire youre speaking with cnns erin burnett, President Biden for the first time, laying out a new have been killed in gaza is a consequences of those bombs and other ways in which they go after Population Centers. I made it clear that if they Go Into Rafah, i havent gotten rough yet they Go Into Rafah. Im not for applying the weapons that had been used historically, deal with raffa, a deal with the citys, a deal with that problem were going to continue to make sure because are secure in terms of iron dome and their ability to respond to attacks like came out of you the least recently. But its wrong. Were not gonna were not gonna supply the weapons and Artillery Shells use that have been used shells as well. Yeah, totally shelf so just to understand what theyre doing right now in raffa, is that not going into rafah as you dont they havent gotten in the population what they did is right on the border. And its causing problems with right now in terms of what egypt, which ive worked very hard to make sure we have a relationship. And help but ive made it clear to bb in the war cabinet. Theyre not going to get our support. If in fact theyre gone, these Population Centers adjoint is now a cnn chief National Security correspondent, alex more quiet, also, two former White House Communications director is kate benningfield, who served in the administration on this far, griffin served in the Previous Administration alex russell. How do you think these comments are gonna be . Received by israel . Because netanyahu has made very clear how important they believe going into rafah is yeah. I dont think they didnt go down very well, anderson, when they take full stock of what biden is saying here, and i really think that this is the most significant shift in this question of american aid for israel to date, biden saying very clearly the us will no longer send some of the biggest weapons at the us has been sending to israel. Bombs, artillery, et cetera if israel goes into those Population Centers in rafah, now earlier today, anderson, we heard from the idf day essentially we had dismissed the holdup of one american shipment of bombs, essentially saying that theyre working through it. This is just a temporary delay, but biden making very clear here that there is a change in American Policy that if, that, if israel does not heed this american warning to not Go Into Rafah without a more comprehensive plan that american support will stop on the offensive front. Now, ive spoken to members of the administration tonight, u. S. Is making very clear they are differentiating between offensive and defensive weapons. Biden saying the same interview that they will continue to help defend israel as we saw with the attack by iran against it israel, they will continue to help with the iron dome system. But theres now a major question of how much longer the us will continue support israel offensively, if essentially israel defies the us and goes into rafah, goes into these Population Centers. Its a very, very stark warning. It seems like there may be room, some sort of wiggly room here because the administration, the Biden Ministration has for a long time now been urging restraint from israel in any action in russia, in rafah and elsewhere and trying to sort of move them more to sort of more targeted Special Forces type operations to try to root out or Hilton Members of hamas, or obviously search for hostages israel has called their operation in rafah strategic strikes, which may just be a branding exercise, but if israel was willing to maybe adopt more the tactics that the Biden Ministration wants. Perhaps theres wiggle room there. Weve been told this for months, anderson, i was a Newsreel Back in december when jake sullivan, National Security adviser said that they anticipated that israel would start switching to what he was calling a lower intensity phase of this war expected in january. And thats simply hasnt happened this is a Shot Across The Bow by the biden administration. You could hear the president there in that clip saying that essentially this rafah operation hasnt started in earnest and u. S. Understands that israel does want to take that part of the rafah border with egypt to better control that israel certainly sees this Rafah Operation Limited as it is right now. By the way to Pressure Hamas to perhaps agreed to a ceasefire deal. But anderson, the israel has made no bones about the fact that they do plan to Go Into Rafah, that there are four hamas battalions there that remain and they cant eradicate hamas without going in while the glass does disagree and says, you have to go in and a much more strategic way, much more tactical way. And here the president is saying that adding to that, were not going to give you the weapons to do what it is that you want to do. Adding to that pressure to go in much more tactically anderson, you think back to prison, bidens first visit to israel after october 7, and the israel is greeted that but with joy and amazement over the the the support that biden was offering israel for what they were calling a total war against. This is obviously a big change. Obviously the president is under extraordinary political pressure here in the United States and globe hopefully, what, what do you think of this line . Hes now drawing well, i think as somebody who worked for joe biden for a long time and watched him up close making these kinds of Foreign Policy decisions. I think contextually, its important for people to understand that he doesnt make these decisions lightly. He doesnt make them in a kneejerk way. Youve youve been discussed saying, you know, for the last few months, he and his his team have been working directly with the israelis to push them to a more tactical approach to rafah. I mean, this is something that has been a priority for him as hes worked to try to discourage the israelis from from conducting Conducting Raids that have, have left such broadbased casualties. So this is not something, this is not the kind of thing that joe biden says or does solely under political pressure i think this is a reflection of where the conflict has moved over these last seven months now youve seen him consistently put tried to put public pressure, particularly early over the last few months on netanyahu and the Israeli Government to try to minimize casualties. And so this is from what i can see, this is simply the next step. I mean, this is him saying were going to put action behind our words here. So i think as people are absorbing this understanding why joe biden is making this decision now, i think its important to have that context. That is the way that he approaches this kind of decisionmaking. And for him its less about the political pressure, you if it were solely about the political pressure, then you would have Seen Movement from him over the last few weeks as pressure was ramping up on these college campuses. But thats just that is not the lens that he uses to make the these kinds of consequential decisions where hes weighing maintaining American Security interests in the region standing by our ally, and israel and simultaneously trying to reduce the suffering that were seeing in gaza. Those are complicated things to balance. And so hes trying to strike that balance alyssa, israeli officials have made the point he repeatedly that any weakening or any lack of resolve shown by the us and support of israel plays into the hands of hamas. Certainly at the Negotiating Table makes it less likely. I mean, there are a lot of israeli officials who will tell you or believe that having a Strong Military response encourages negotiators, encourages hamas to make concessions. Well, an alex alluded to that. I think this is being announcement by joe bidens being panned by the right, the center, and even some moderate democrats, John Fetterman called it disappointing because a key part of the raffa invasion is using it as leverage as a ceasefire is attempting to be negotiated. And what wasnt talked about in depth in this interviews. There are hostages, theyre also still american hostages. So this sort of standoffish as though america doesnt have a vital role in this, i think is not being received well politically. But joe biden runs into the code, run into alienating the left who is not going to buy the idf is not in rafah. You see the explosions, you see that they are physically there in parts of it though on the border but then on the center right, the nikki haley swing voters who will determine this election, feeling like he said he had an ironclad commitment to israel. Yet this does not bring of an ironclad commitment alex, i mean, in terms of israels response to this, they have repeatedly netanyahu has repeatedly made the basically downplayed the Civilian Casualties and they, or they talk about the numbers of hamas fighters that they claim to have killed. Theres no way to independently verify that and the number of civilians killed as well. Obviously, the images coming out of gaza are horrific. The number of children theres so many children in the population, so many women being killed in we see these videos every single day. They are horrific to watch im wondering what you made it the moment that President Biden acknowledged that civilians have been killed in gaza as a consequence of some of these 2000 pound bombs u. S. Has supplied by israel. I mean, its a statement of fact it is a statement of fact. I think its a remarkable admission. I mean, this has been the biggest criticism by people we want to see this war end as soon as possible that the us continues to supply israel with weapons who and in turn, they continue to carry out the strikes that have led to this enormous death toll. I understand youre absolutely right that israel has kind of quibbles with those figures. But even if you look at israels figures around 15,000 hamas fighters killed. Youre still talking about around 20,000 civilians most of whom are women and children. So what you hear in that moment is the president really reckoning with the death toll that has happened in many ways at the hands of american weapons. And he said very pointedly, its just wrong and so he certainly wants to see that the killing with these american bombs and the us has talked repeatedly about how the civilian death toll is too high. But in tel, now they really havent taken any steps to constrain israel. Weve had this remarkable well moment for the past few months where american bombs have been dropping on israel. And at the same time, american aid has been dropping in israel. The pentagon is going through extra to extraordinary lengths to build this pier off the coast of gaza to get aid in and so its just been this from Markelle Contradiction but said, by the way, just you said aid and bumps and the dropping in israel been dropping and gaza human sorry, into gaza. Yes. The aid drops coming from the plains from the americans, aid coming in from the sea, from land. So its just been, its just been incredible. And so we should note this is extremely symbolic and this is a real signal to israel, of course israel could plow ahead and carry out an operation in rafah on the ground. And from the sky, they do have enough weapons to do that. They do have enough of these bombs, but this is a strong message to israel that we are no longer going to send these weapons. If you go into these popular related areas and continue to kill civilians and soldiers more card comparing filler less farah griffin. Thank you. Now, more Breaking News and other attempted republican on republican mutiny on capitol hill, republican congresswoman Marjorie Taylor greene, trying to unseat House Speaker mike johnson, then seeing her attempt gets smacked down. Now the question is what just happened here as Speaker Johnson is just weighed in. So it was the former president on a Social Network urging republicans defeat her motion to vacate the speakers chair. But only posting it at 5 59 p. M. Several minutes after the vote took place, cnns Melanie Zanona has been talking to house members and her sources joins u. S. Now with the latest. So how did House Republicans react when greene hold up this resolution and how quickly did they move to kill it . Well, i can tell you anderson that gop leadership was completely caught off guard. Im told that Marjorie Taylor greene did not give advance notice to johnson that this was coming, but johnson knew all along that it was possible she would force a floor or vote on this motion to vacate this week. So he did have a plan in place which was to immediately scheduled the vote, the moment that she called it up. And that is exactly what he did. And as you saw, that motion was easily defeated with the help of democrats. But even though it did easily fail, republicans are still furious with Marjorie Taylorgreene for following through with this threat and some are even calling for consequences. Take a listen right. Now were all focused on making sure that this institution continues to function. And i think today we showed that were tired of chaos and the nonsense and this pathetic the rerun of of an awful syndicated tv series. So it needs to come to a close. I think that there needs to be ultimately there needs to be accountability. I dont think people should be some people here, think theyre more important than everyone else. They are not in there needs to be accountability for that look, i think its Idiotic Moscow Marjorie has lost her mind find clearly the result of the space laser. There needs to be consequences, including the loss of committee assignments. Chip, roy and thomas massie, who served on the rules committee she both be removed immediately now, johnson has not advocated for any consequences, but he has said that they need to change the house rules next year, and he also said off the house floor today that he hopes after this vote they can put all these messy fights that have defined the 118th Congress behind them. Finally, shed had a bunch of meetings with johnson over the last couple of days. Did she give a reason . Then for trying to force this vote there was some sense that she was trying to find an offramp, trying to find some resolutions, perhaps because donald trump himself, im told called her over the last week and urged her to back down into not fall through with this. So she did meet with johnson several times this week. She laid out a list of demands and exchange for back i can down but johnson was in no hurry to make a decision and he is also very clear that hes not willing to negotiate with her. He was just willing to hear out her ideas. So ultimately, she decided to pull the trigger today, which is the last lets day that house was voting this week. And so well see whether she continues to force these floor votes in the future, but she has not ruled out doing so. Anderson . No. No, no. Thank you. Coming up next new developments in the Hush Money Trial and the former president is fight against the gag order limiting what he can say about it. New details as well as about th