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And ask about the bosley guarantee im mj lee at the white house and this is cnn its may 13 right now on cnn this morning, Michael Cohens set to take the stand. How trumps former fixer could become the star witness in trumps Hush Money Trial today, plus y Partisan Backlash for President Biden after his warning to israel about us Weapons Shipments and a rare sight in the skies above washingtons Civilian Aircraft flying right over the National Models heavily restricted airspace are pecan team was in the sky all right. 6 00 a. M. Here in washington alive. Look at the white house on this monday morning. Morning, everyone, im kasie hunt. Its wonderful to have you with us. Thats you had a happy mothers day yesterday hey todays gonna be a busy one here the stage is set for a dramatic Courtroom Showdown as former Attorney Michael Cohen is set to testify against the man he once said he would take a bullet for his old boss, donald trump manhattan prosecutors in the Hush Money Trial expected to call the fixer, turned foe to the state and hoping to link the 130,000 payment to adult film star Stormy Daniels cohen has repeatedly said hes been ready to testify against the former president. Heres what he told cnns erin burnett back in february i have no problem the last time at the new York Attorney generals case of being in the same room as donald im not the only one who has said this i felt nothing. Theres no intimidation by him. Hes the one thats sitting at the defendants desk, not me all right. Our panels here, cnn legal analysts, former federal prosecutor Elliot Williams from advisor to tim scotts president ial campaign. Matt gorman and cnn political commentator and former white house policy adviser Ashley Allison is here as well elliott at blockbuster de. Here we are right now. Were going to be back here probably again later for hours and hours and hours, i would imagine. Yeah. What are you watching for today . From Michael Cohen. Is it over . Its not over yet. No god, but god. Okay. Barely begun. Weve only just begun to i think lets put it this way. I think theres good, bad, and ugly around michael jackson. Michael Michael Wright exam monday morning. Sorry. Sorry. Sorry about Michael Cohens testimony. I think good for prosecutors is that when you have a criminal prosecution about the intersection of someones personal and play political wives. The most valuable witness that can come up is the guy who knows virtually everything or knew virtually everything about that defendants personal and political lives. He was involved in virtually every detail and he literally has said and others have said about him. He knows where the bodies are buried and has quoteunquote the receipts. So hes a valuable witness. Now, the bad is that he has a very long list of strikes against him as a witness that are going to come up at trial. Hes got a number of criminal convictions for i believe, tax evasion, Campaign Finance related issues, and lying to congress. Thats not good. He wrote above can put those up next screen, we have a little graphic. Continue. He wrote a book literally called revenge, which is the title of his book. Now, whats the revenge against . Well, its the defendant and thats going to come up in front of the jury that this is the kinds of material youve been putting out. Hes got a youtube channel, twitter feed, all of this. I believe tiktok, were savages. The former president regularly, and all of this again, will come up in front of the jury. The against them. And i just think the ugly is its a Personality Clash and i think you put this man on the stand looking at the defendant. He said in that clip there that no, i was able to do this once before. And can do it without losing my cool. But i dont know over several days of really harsh questioning how Michael Cohen will hold up so its big and consequential witness for the prosecution. I just remains to be seen how its going to work yeah. So i actually talked to Michael Cohen about his credibility or lack thereof back in 2022 in march, this at the time, The Big Question was around the the inflation of the value of trumps properties, which ultimately was not something that he ended up being tried, charged with criminally. But heres how cohen explained to me when i asked him about whether he discussed his own credibility as a witness with the da, alvin Braggs Office watch did you ever talk to them about your credibility . Did they ever talk to you about your credibility . Absolutely. I spoke with ten different Law Enforcement agencies. What i did, i you probably remember this of the House Oversight. I brought in documentary evidence. I didnt want anyone to question my credibility. This is something that irritates me, right . Because donald trump is the one who labeled me a convicted liar so i will say matt, i mean, he he did plead guilty to lying to congress, so its time trump who is leveled at him. But i mean this is going to be big question, isnt like, look, i think youve seen these last couple of weeks, you know . Folks like Stormy Daniels, folks like Michael Cohen has given interviews and public statements for years now, hes saying, i would say hakh trump and wanted seem to think that this and that of various sorts. And okay, now you have every right in the world to make those statements. But the debits to everywhere in the world to use that against you, question your credibility right now. And i think, look, i dont necessarily expect and loses cool, but he could look you know, forgive me like kind of like an idiot if you will. Im on the stand like for lack of a better term, thats i think what im curious about. And again, a lot of this cohen is where theres two audience here, the jury and the voters cone is a perfect person to punch holes. And for also the voters to speaking of voters, ashley, i mean where do you think the president was fundraising over the weekend called said that trump has become totally unhinged. We played donald trump. Were going to show everyone again later in the show what he had to say about Hannibal Lecter on the boardwalk at the jersey shore, or shouldnt necessarily i dont know if it was actually on the boardwalk or not, but he was in wild would new jersey where biden team as they watch this unfold and what does this cohen play any role in their thinking at all i mean, if youre the biden team, iraqis, like hang my coat on cohen, right. Like out of all the things in the world of tao trump that you can go after. Maybe the case writ large is something to talk about and say like, im out here talking about the issues of the American Public while donald trump again is having a fitted himself for a furious behavior, but its not because of Michael Cohen is really i do think though im interested to see Stormy Daniels last week was comparative, but she stood up for herself on dan. I dont know if Michael Cohen should do that. I dont think he should present himself as a combative witness. It is argumentative with the attorney. I think he just needs to continue to like, put his statement of facts out there where he is and kinda lay it down for the Biden Campaign. I i think i want to turn the page on the next couple of days and get back to the contrast of chaos versus working for the american people. All right. 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If its a free and fair election, i will accept the results. Dan, whoever wins yes if its a free and fair election, that was ohio senator jd vance with our own dana bash, some Top Republicans have of course been giving quite elusive answers to that question. Vance also went on to say this we have to be willing, as democrats did in 2000, as democrats have done in the past. And certain is republicans did in 2020 is if you think there were problems, you have to be willing to pursue those problems and try to execute your case. And certainly, if we have a free and fair election, ill accept the results all right, and joining us now is cnn chief Political Correspondent and the host. If cnns State Of The Union and inside politics, dan bash, dana. Good morning. Good morning. This was a great interview. What did you make of his answer there . Because it does seem to have the echoes of like when you Ask Donald Trump about is there gonna be violence . He said, well, if the election, if i win the election know, and in this case hes saying wealthy election is free and fair. Sure. Yeah, ill accept the results. I honestly wasnt sure where he was going to go with that answer because he hadnt answered that. I think the New York Times had done a survey of all the potential Vice President ial running mate for donald trump. And that was one that they didnt get back on. So i hadnt seen it anywhere else. The answer to your question, my sense is that given the fact that he clearly likes being the running, right i thought he would be a little bit more trumpian than he was. Okay. Because when i pushed him on the fundamental question, which you play it like, okay, but what if joe biden wins . Right . He did say yes. Yes. But there was a button there, but at least there was a yes. Which is not what we saw in 2020, not obviously, from donald trump and not by people like jd vance who didnt accept the results. Now, they argue that im . Not that well. Donald trump argues that it was ranked, he did it again saturday night. Thats just theres no evidence to show that the argument that they make beyond that, of course, is that because it was covid a lot of the states and cities and locales change the rules to make it easier for people to vote. And that was not right . I dont know what if if theres a similar sort of excuse that they can find you in 2024 if donald trump does in fact lose, you can bet the look for one. Yeah. I mean, matt gorman has someone whos previously worked for an its someone who is on the vp shortlist in tim scott. I mean, there is a spectrum of answers on this question about whether or not the theyre going to accept the results. Where would you put vance on that spectrum . He was pretty clear. You pretty succinct, which i think you want. He said you could put an a chiral. Im pretty easily what can be said for all of them. And look, i think at the end of the day youre not going to get for someone wants to be in the vp shortlist. Just like honestly, any other issue youre not going to get someone to go out there and Say Something diametrically. Diametrically opposed to what trump is saying on this, right . There is in that spectrum, theres kind of almost guardrails that you towards and i think what you saw vance was certainly on one side of that. I was surprised sense to sink and how kinda clear he was at least voted late when it went on data show. Well, of course he trump appeared with doug burgum over the weekend rally, which seems to suggest burger maybe arising off the list. Its certainly it does. And look, we have to remember that donald trump likes to play with us, play with everybody. This is something that he likes. The kind of who will it be, who wont be but he does it. Its not just by watching donald trump over the weekend with doug burgum, its also reporting that i have from people around him. He really, really likes the idea of doug burgum fact that hes a business person, the fact that he is central casting, which is not nothing. But when it comes to donald trump and hes a nice person, hes a nice person to be with genuinely a nice guy and im you know, thats something that trump like right . Unobjectionable, really. I mean, ashley else and we also saw trump over the weekend, shoot down the idea that nikki haley was anywhere on his list, right . Like actually put posted about that. That does seem to suggest like, i mean, it seems like theres still a major opening for the biden team to go looking for haley voters considering how he talks about her still yeah. Im sorry. Im like trying to hold back my laughter likes nice people you know what . Let me let me correct the record, please. Your honor and i want to i want to actually associate myself with the word that case you use, which is unobjectionable yeah. Thats a better word. Im not that hes not always nice guy that donald trump the birds on were being nice is what tim. Back to the question of nicotine look nikki haley was one of the few people on the republican primary, very late in the primary. But at some point in the primary, who actually went after donald trump and thats not what donald trump wants. And anybody can be considered to be his number two, he wants someone who will fall in line, which doug burgum, youre from rabbis like people for doing to put potentially be tapped and nikki haley has yet has actually been rather silent since she has dropped out of the race. Other than getting 150,000 votes here and there and post primary since being out of the race. So i think that the Biden Campaign is trying to figure out how to go after do those voters because they haley voters actually were a part of the coalition in 2020 there. He did get some republicans, we got some independence and then we got a

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