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CNNW CNN July 3, 2024

Attack. All right. Max foster, keep us posted on the developments here. Thank you very much. And we have a brand new our with new news coming in and seeing a new central starts right now Donald Trumps former fixer blasted by the defense fiery crossexamination. Trumps lawyers that using a day off today to prepare another round of tough questioning for the man who says the former president plotted a scheme to cover up a Hush Money Payment to a porn star. Now with less than six months to go until the election, President Biden saying the poll numbers arent accurate, but should democrats be more concerned plus, the future of human creativity up in the air, google showing off new ai features that many Online Publishers fear could put them out of business. Im sarah sayyed or john berman, kate is on assignment this is Cnn News Central so this morning, what will Donald Trumps lawyers ask . Next . What will Michael Cohen say next . And how much more explosive could this crossexamination get as everyone really spends the next 24 hours preparing for the new round with me. Cnn is Brynn Gin Grass and cnn legal analyst Jennifer Rodgers. A brynn firstly, you thank you. First of all for letting me join you outside the courthouse yesterday. You hosted me down there look, what were your main takeaways from the crossexamination which began really with a bay. It did begin with a bang, but i feel like theyre just Getting Started to write. We do know that they are actually going to spend the whole time tomorrow likely doing crossexamination. It says essentially todd blanche was using Michael Cohens words from his book, from his podcast to attack him and get him to what, id show for jurors, what they believe that hes profiting off of donald trump, that hes out for vengeance, that he just really has flipped on them. And once everything bad to happen to donald trump, i think at some point during the trial he called trump with his own words again, boorish, Cartoon Massage Genus that cheetodusted cartoon villain and trump percent rather Michael Cohens just said, yeah, that sounds like something i would say. But hes really trying to theyre trying to show that hes really made a living off of donald trump and they also went back in time when he was complimentary to his former boss and Michael Cohen said this, thats when i was knee deep in the cult of donald trump so that was pretty interesting too. Obviously trying to show some flipflopping here prior to that we did here the prosecution wrap up that whole narrative that he was on the stand for about eight hours going through all of what weve been hearing from witnesses before, corroborating what we have heard and essentially talked about the moment that he did turn on donald trump. It was after that fbi race aid, they went through his criminal history and at the end of it, there was a moment where the prosecution says, did you regret it . And this is how Michael Cohen responded, says, i dont Regret Working With The Trump Ganization as i expressed before, some very interesting great times. But to keep the loyalty and to do the things that he had asked me to do. I violated my moral compass and i suffered the penalty as has my family. So that was a really striking moments and maybe somewhat credible to jurors will have to find out jennifer, im curious what you thought of how he answered these questions. I mean, the the crossexamination was brutal. Just one thing after the other. They did not go in sort of succession as to how things happened. How did Michael Coleman handle this . I thought generally he did pretty well. There was a little bit of fighting with todd blanche about is it a lie . Is it . Inaccurate those sorts of things dont do well for the witness, right . You dont want to fight. But generally, i thought he did well, he kept his cool. He answered the questions. He was firm about what he wanted to say. And i thought that the todd got into the weeds a little bit too much to be honest with you. I think if it goes all day tomorrow, thats at mr. Stay across his best use as a blunt force instrument, you want to get in, be brutal, but be quick about it. The longer drags out, the jury loses interest and thats not what you want on class. I asked this before to joey. Im curious if this jury does believe Michael Cohen has the defense yet done anything to get their client a not guilty verdict . All they focused on is Michael Cohens a bad guy. They were talking about the case well, if they believe Michael Cohen, its over, it doesnt matter what todd blanche does to be honest with you, because Michael Cohen makes the case, but there are some substantive things i think they can do. They elicited for example, how much Michael Cohen was making and when you add together his salary plus bonus, its not far off from 420,000, so i expect them to argue, listen, trump didnt know he signing these checks. He is still his personal lawyer. Hes still going to be paying him. That goes to the intent. But the question is a strategic one. Do you do that . That in cross tomorrow or do you wait for the opportunity to do it in closings because if they do it tomorrow, then prosecutors can come back and tried to clarify. No, no. Heres how you know that that was for the payback and not for a salary. So he has some Strategic Decisions to make tomorrow. We know theyll continue to hammer away at the bias points honestly, you start to lose steam when you do that over and over again, the jurys heard it, theyre ready to move on. I cant keep stop thinking about whats going to happen. I know after cohen, even though this has been really explosive, i mean, what is ductus defense . Do who do they call . Do they put on a case or do they say, look, we feel like we proved it with our crossexamination. I suspect they wont do anything. Theyve certainly not going to call donald trump. The one thing they might do is this Election Lawyer expert to talk about whether that was a crime or not . Thats the only thing i can see. You got some reporting on on whats gonna happen after cohen . Yes. Yeah. So were expect the prosecution to rest and then yeah, well have to see who the defense calls. I agree with you. I dont think theyre going to be calling donald trump. I do think its still interesting. We talked about this yesterday, is how do you fill that void of Allen Weisselberg . Obviously, hes not going to be called to the stand. I think as a juror, your hearing, Allen Weisselberg, you talk about all the all the nodes, all the calculus since hes the one that made the nodes here. Donald trump told him to talk to alan like whos this Allen Weisselberg, if im a juror, so i do think thats something that i dont know where you go from there. I just want to read one more exchange. This was indirect yesterday. Welcome, cohen, still face question for prosecutors before todd blanche started swearing in front of the jury yesterday, and this was an exchange that gets to the heart of the case and clearly the prosecution wanted another bite at this apple, after their first de the prosecutor, Susan Hoffinger asks, why in fact, did you pay the money to Stormy Daniels . Its Michael Cohen says to ensure that the story would not come out, would not affect mr. Trumps chances of becoming president United States. Hoffinger says, if not for the campaign, mr. Cohen would you have paid that money to Stormy Daniels . Cohen says, no, maam. Todd blanche, the defense Attorney Says objection. The judge has overruled. You can answer cohen says no, maam. And then hop and your asked at whos direction . And on whose behalf did you commit that crime cohen says on behalf of mr. Trump, i feel like those are important words legally from the prosecution and the fact they did it on day two with Michael Cohen tells us something. What is that . Well, they go through the story, right . And you get the pieces that you need to put it all together and summations, but you want to also sum it up at the end of your direct for the jury, just so theres no mistake here, right . Michael cohens role is to give the story, but also to say, i did this, but i only did it because of trump and at trumps direction. Right. We need to have Donald Trumps content not Michael Cohens to find a conviction here. So thats what theyre doing. Just put it all together for the jury less, there be any doubt. This is why i did it. And then they can hand them over for Jennifer Rodgers branch and grass i know youve been on this the whole time and there is plenty more to go. 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The Biden Campaign says, it is willing to debate donald trump, but under certain terms, cnns Arlette Saenz and jeff zeleny joining us now, arlette what are they saying about this . Debate that biden is now saying youll do well, sarah, there is major news from the Biden Campaign this morning as they are saying that they are willing to debate former President Donald Trump two times and campaign one of the top campaign officials, jen omalley, dillon, central letter to the commission on president ial debates, saying that the biden President Biden will not participate in the debates that they currently have scheduled. Now, biden himself released a video just moments ago where he said that he will debate trump two times in this upcoming election. Take a listen to what the president had to say. Dont show plus two debates to me in 20 said he hadnt shown up for debate. Now hes acting like he wants to debate me again or makes my day pal, ill even do it twice. Plus pick the dates down. I hear youre free on wednesdays now the Biden Campaign is saying that they want to have debates held earlier in the process. This a letter that was sent to the commission on president ial debates from jen omalley, dillon outlines are requests for the president and trump to debate twice in this election cycle, once in june, once a former President Trumps a Criminal Trial up in new york ends, and then another time in Early September 1 are the items that they are pointing to is the fact that they want to have these debates play out before early voting begins and ends in many of these key Battleground States, now, biden has been saying that he is willing to debate trump just last week here at the white house, he was asked by a reporter when he would do hold that debate and he said set it up in an interview with howard stern, just last month, he said that hes happy to debate trump, but really didnt get into the details of exactly when. But we will see what the Trump Campaign has to say uh, going forward, trump himself has also called for earlier debates, the Republican National committee had previously vote, voted not to participate in cps d debates. But certainly even as the Biden Campaign is putting forward some suggestions, this will all have to be agreed to by the Trump Campaign as well. But President Biden in this new video this morning, making clear that he wants to debate trump twice even as the cpd has scheduled three debates to occur in the fall all right. Arlette saenz. Thank you. Jeff zeleny. I gasped when i saw the attack that biden just made saying i heard youre free on wednesdays, two former President Donald Trump, who is off court on wednesdays. What do you make of this . And what might this mean . Because theyre on the one hand, theyre saying yes, we want to do two to base, but we dont want to do what is already potentially in place well, sir, you picked up on the shade there that President Biden was throwing to his rival. But lets translate that a little bit. What this means is as are, let was just explaining, this is very significant get it means that one central question has been hanging over this rematch. Are theyre going to be debates and President Biden now firmly saying, yes, he will agree to a two debates in june and Early September. We will see what the Trump Campaign assess to this. But at every recent trump rally, there has been an empty sodium that says anytime any place. So donald trump is out there saying he will debate interesting in this letter is were just reading it here from jen omalley dillon, a top Campaign Adviser sort

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