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CNNW Anderson July 3, 2024

Now tonight on three 60 Breaking News, new details and how the former president s Defense Team Plans to undermine Michael Cohens testimony in the criminal Hush Money Trial when court resumes tomorrow morning. Also tonight, President Biden and the former president agree on two debates with cnn and abc. Abc news, and George Stephanopoulos joins us ahead. And more Breaking News this evening, the latest and the attempted assassinatioion of slovakia is Prime Minister caught on camera good evening. We start with our Breaking News about how the former president s attorneys expected to go after Michael Cohen when crossexamination in the new york criminal Hush Money Trial continues tomorrow days after legal analyst criticize defense attorney todd blanche is initial approach and the New York Times noted that his questions produce know gotcha moment. Aside from a reprimand from the judge at the outset for making the cross about himself. Im joined now by johnny jones, the third former chief judge for the us middle district of pennsylvania, former federal prosecutor jeffrey thuban. Normal eyes and former counsel to House Democrats are in the former president s first impeachment. Hes also the author of trying trump, a guide to his first first election interference, Criminal Trial has been in the courtroom throughout, as has are correspondent kara scannell, who had tonights Breaking News. So what have you learned about whats going to happen to 70 of the game tomorrow is going to be to try to focus on Michael Cohens past statements and suggests to the jury that hes a liar and he cant be trusted. They just want to undercut his credibility and one thing that theyre going look at are some of the past statements hes made under oath, and that is because hes under oath now, so they want to say to the jury, he is lied before under oath. You shouldnt believe him now and theyve gotten to a little bit of it with his past admission that he has pleaded guilty before congress. But at the civil fraud trial, Michael Cohen, under crossexamination by trumps lawyers, said that he had lied to federal judge when he pled guilty to tax fraud and he has said publicly that repeatedly. So that is an error. Theyre going to focus on because they want to suggest that the jury that they cant leave the story so much of this could come down to whether the jury believes Michael Cohen. And so the Name Of The Game tomorrow is really to try to show that hes a liar who cant be trusted. There so going to focus on the conversations that cohen says he had with donald trump because hes the only one that was involved in those conversations. And the only witness to testify that trump knew and approved this repayment scheme involving calling it a retainer. No other witnesses testified to that, so its a twofold thing. They want to say that he shouldnt be believed and to just raise questions about any of these recollections that hes had of conversations with donald trump and warning that seems like a reasonable defense is an excellent strategy. I wonder why they did do it on tuesday the problem is that the prosecution and mr. Cohen are lying in wait for these arguments. We talked when i was with you yesterday about drawing this thing the prosecution presenting details in advanced to the jury. So theres no surprise on this lying to a federal judge. Cohen explained on his direct that he doesnt disagree with the underlying facts that are alleged about his tax crimes. What he meant was he shouldnt have been prosecuted for such ticky tack issues as a firsttime offender. And he felt he had to plead guilty because his wife was placed under duress. They gave them a short fuse. Were going to charge your wife. So the explanations are there well see who the jury believes it is a reasonable strategy. Attack his credibility and go after the substance you know what, i just dont understand about this is sure. I mean, it makes a certain amount of sense, but why not use michael cohn as a witness for you . For example, this is a case about donald trump ordering or creating or causing false documents. Why not ask Michael Cohen, did donald trump ever touch any of these documents . Did he ever process any of these . Texts . Did he know what the software was . Is he the bookkeeper at this company all of those answers are helpful to the defense and you dont have to accuse him of lying for that. Why not use Michael Cohen for his knowledge of how the Trump Organization worked to undermine the idea that donald trump had anything to do . With the preparation of the documents that are what this case theres a well, heres heres what im thinking about. You know, you have todd blanche who has the most difficult client in the United States. Now, think of a broadway show that opens its highly touted. Thats his crossexamination the other day. And reviews arent good theyre coming in and the producer that you see, whats going on here. And you know, the former president is reading all these reviews. So this is a Momentum Shift blanche had the momentum or some momentum with him on tuesday tomorrow, the Momentum Shifts, the pressure sure. Is on him, i think to be as incisive and as good as he could be. And hes got a witness to your point, whos prepped and ready for these arguments, and its gonna be a tough day for him. Hes feeling the weight of the world on its entering, judge, because so many people were jbeil High Expectations for blanche on his his first crossexamination the expectations could not have been lower from Michael Cohen, which to your point and he seemed to certainly surpass that and remain calm. And successfully deflect a lot of stuff with leinz seem to have been worked out in advance, but like i know it sounds like something i would say. Do you think he can i mean, i were you surprised by his testimony . How i would not have started with the socalled Shock And Awe question. I just dont think that was a way to go. Good cross has been described as a box you build around the witness and then you slam the top shut at the end of the cross. I thought it was meandering. I didnt understand the purpose of it. Its tough when you have a witness whos ready for you and his game plan and prepare. I dont know what hes gonna do though, because hes got to shift gears quickly. And he cant go too long because hes going to get hurt if he goes too long tough tough situation right now points go to i think cohen, hes hes more credible. Theyve got work to do and credit where credit is due to the da because they very skillfully played the Expectation Game throughout the trial, de elicit it criticism of cohen from every witness, so they suppress the jury is the ultimate audience for the expectations based suppress the jury and the judges expectations. And i was watching the jury and at different points in cohens testimony, you had the jury doesnt always do this i counted one of the things today. There was at one jurors who were nodding or smiling, or agreeing with cohen at one point in his testimony, its like a president ial debate. Both sides want to suppress expectations. The de a did that brilliantly in setting this moment. You dont no normal lets clairvoyance about what the jury is thinking. I mean, well see lawyers, lawyers, and judges are the worst at trying to judge what what jurors are thinking. I confess, well, maybe well get points to norm, but you dont want to get yanked over by the judge and the beginning of your crossexamination and told dont make this crossexamination about you bad. Luck that the jury notices that sort of thing. They do. I mean, they cant hear exactly whats going on. Its Sidebar Layout here and theyre not supposed to hear anything, but they know somebodys in the penalty box at that point takes you off your strike. Could see the judge berating blanche. It was now you can understand and then he ordered the questions struck from the record and the jury did here that care when do you anticipate the case could be in the hands of the jury . I mean, i think my next week because theres no other witnesses after cohens. So even if cross goes all day tomorrow, the prosecution will have redirect with him. And if this goes all day tomorrow, theyre going to want to spend some time with how and if trumps team decides are not going to call this expert witness, then it comes down to does donald trump take the stand . And if he doesnt, then well move right into closing arguments. So this could be in the hands of the jury next week. All right. Well be watching to everyone. Thank you. Coming up tonight. Bipartisanship may be dead, but occasionally deals do get done. President biden and the former president today agree to two president ial debates. The first one will be on cnn, the second on abc. George stephanopoulos for maybe she knew just joining us tonight. Also ahead more Breaking News, the latest and the attempted assassination of the Prime Minister of slovakia. There was caught on camera. His condition in the investigation ahead do you want to. Close out . Should i . Normally, id hold but taking the games of smart here, right . Feel more competent. 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The flurry of activity began this morning when President Biden released this video donald, trump lost two debates to me in 20 0. 20 said he is shown up for debate. Now hes acting like he wants to debate me again or make my day pal, ill even do it twice. So lets pick the dates, donald, i hear youre free on wednesdays an animated President Biden dropping a reference to not only clean eastward, but also the one de of the week, the foreign president is always free from his new york Criminal Trial. Soon after the foreign president confirmed his participation in a series equally combative post on social media, quote, Crooked Joe Biden is the worst debater ive ever faced. He cant put two sentences together. He ended the posed by saying, quote, just tell me when ill be there. Lets get ready to rumble. Joined now by david axelrod, former Senior Adviser to president obama, or senior data reporter harry enten and Galen College recovered the Trump White House and anchors the source next hour on cnn, david, is this a wise decision by the Biden Campaign and given trump . Is leading in many swing states, or you surprise, he appears so eager to debate and so early yeah, well, well, there are a couple of things there. I think he needs to debate. This is a close race everyones seen these polls, they have their own polls. He knows that he has to cross this hurdle. The whole predicate of the Trump Campaign and you sought reflected in that tweet, is that biden as old and feeble. And incapable of being president and the debate is the hurdle that he has to cross. He needs to dispel that notion in that debate. And they need, they know, they need to take care of that take that opportunity, but they also i thought negotiated very, very wisely. Trump was eager for it got a debate thats not going to be a roman colosseum, but in a Television Studio without an audience, which disadvantages trump and its early plea, which gives you a chance to recover if the debate is not, is not good. We, some of us who are old enough to remember, remember 1980 when jimmy carter debated Ronald Reagan once and he did it a week before the election. The debate didnt go well for carter and the race was over. I think biden understands that history so getting early debates and getting them out of the way is also very wise. I think caitlin, do you have any information or any field for how the trump team has sort of approaching this. And with the risk versus reward, well, i mean they really had no option but to take President Biden up on this offer when he posted this video today, because it every a trump rally, an event that he does and even chris lacivita, one of his Campaign Managers they had this slogan that says, anywhere anytime, any place because theyve been kinda putting this off are out there seeming to bet on the idea that the biden team would be reluctant to debate. And so when President Biden issued this video they can take them up when there was a time and a place after that kinda what theyve been daring them to do. I think that when you speak to the people inside the Trump Campaign, they honestly believe that that trump will fare better against biden in these debates. Than he did in 2020. Obviously, they mocked bidens age and ability at every single turn of trumps campa

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