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CNNW The July 3, 2024

Straight from the source tonight, a Surprise Agreement to everybody between trump and biden agreeing to debate twice before election day. First, right here on cnn, next month donald trump personally confirming to me that hes in meanwhile, another epic showdown. Just hours away from happening, not weeks away, because Michael Cohen, well be back on the Witness Stand. Trumps trial tomorrow. Were getting new reporting tonight on the plan of attack by the trump team. We have two inside sources, Michael Cohens former attorney, lanny davis. And what have Donald Trumps attorneys, both here tonight and a big question where is Rudy Giuliani . Because thats what Law Enforcement in arizona is asking is theyve been trying to find the onetime Trump Attorney for weeks. Why they need to see him . In person, as cnn has learning where he might be. Im kaitlan collins, and this is the source mark your, calendars because six weeks from tomorrow, thursday, june 27, its biden trump in a debate, rematch right here on cnn and it promises to be epic, or at least dramatic. Hopefully theres less shouting this time for all of us watching in the room and at home. The only president in us history who has tried to stop the peaceful transfer of power versus the man who defeated him. The current president who says that his rival is a dire threat to democracy, is facing challenging pulled numbers and critical Battleground States is well. This trumpbiden faceoff will be their first since 2020 also their first time in the same rooms since then, which is remarkable in and of itself trump. Confirmed to me directly this morning that he had accepted cnns invitation, which came after this direct challenge from President Biden and trump lost two debates to me in 20 0. 20 said he hadnt shown up for debate. Now hes acting like he wants to debate me again. Well, make my day pal ill even do it twice. So lets pick the dates, donald, i hear youre free on wednesdays that last remark, if it stood out to you, it also stood out to me. Its notable because you dont often hear President Biden weighing in on Donald Trumps legal cases. He almost never does. That reference there to today, wednesday. Thats because its a rare de not in court for donald trump right now. These debates, the first are going to happen here on cnn in june. And then again in september. These are the earliest General Election debates in modern history. The first is happening before either candidate has formally accepted their partys nomination at their conventions. Heres what donald trump had to say about this agreement well absolute lab and tried to get his issuing it. I wonder whether or not he shows up because he also challenged me to golf. So im a very good golfer. He cant hit a ball 50 yards. I really think he has to debate. He mice will get it over with probably should do it early so that he can hes not going to get any better well, i mean, time will tell and well find out the answer to that question just six weeks from today. My source tonight is someone who is directly channeled tunnel trump on the debate stage, felipe rainas played him for Hillary Clintons 2016 debate prep and by doing so, subjected himself to watching all 11 of the republican 2016 primary debates that trump participated in three times at that and some felipe, its great to have you here mean, i remember you even war the long red tie In The Dark Suit for your prep, your some, some video of you and Hillary Clinton greeting each other on stage. I mean, how does one prepare to debate donald trump well, i mean, my preparation started with just sort attorney get into character. I mean, im not as tall as he is, but at that time i did have a little bit more wait than i do. Now, i went to my taylor and i said, look, i need a suit like donald trump and not because of halloween. I mean, i literally need a suit like donald trump and he said, i get it. Im going to make the sleeves too long and its gonna be too baggy. I bought lifts for my shoes. I went online. I think the ebay and i got trump cufflinks i did it up. That was to help me, i guess im the equivalent of a method actor or if i were should be in hollywood but its also turned method actor. Yeah, i mean, i knew i did it right because the first time we did a debate prep session, hillary walked in and she saw me and said of phillipa is ready to be obnoxious like she she just at that moment, i mean, not that shes happy to see me anytime, but she knew i had done my bit. I had even without the orange hair, i was i was ready to do my thing, but i mean its im talking about channeling him. I mean, its kind of ironic. Listening to him talk to hugh hewitt, that voice i just heard that guys now ready to debate. That was low energy donald. That guys not making any sense. Hes talking about golf that joe biden that we watched that video. I love that joe biden, i think democrats love that joe biden thats the joe biden that comes to play. And look, donald trump has debated five times in the General Election in the last, whatever, seven years, hes lost all five. And boys trump doing biden a huge favor as long along with his campaign, the whole Republican Party, they keep saying that joe biden going to show up and fall over, that he cant stay the wake, they cant do this. There and then the bar who said he lost all five, obviously thats subjective. Some republicans, im sure in trumps allies, would, it would argue otherwise. But i think the question is, is, you know, you prepped Hillary Clinton for the debates in 2016. Now that you saw him in 2016, but also at those two debates with biden himself you get a case study of what theyre actually like. I mean, what would you advise President Biden after seeing those two debates . Well its tough because they were very, they were two very different Donald Trumps in the sense that in 2016, i always have a hard time having this come out of my mouth, but there was a message in donald trump, theres a lot of bluster there was a lot of line those all the things that we see now. But at the core, there was talking about health care. Theres talking about jobs leaving america. There was talking about immigration. There was a balance, 2020. He was just an angry guy. He was grievances. It was out of whack. Its already talked about in 2024, who shows up is 2016 is a 2020, is it a hybrid . And im not so sure because on certain days, if you listen to Donald Trumps sitting outside of the courtroom, its purely aggrieved. Donald trump. Its exactly what youre hearing him saying crap about excuse me, about his golf game or about Stormy Daniels or whatever on the trail sometimes hes talking about bringing Back Master Lock that has moved south frack to the country. I think that the lesson for joe biden and look, hes got the best people around him. Hes got ron klain, who is the master of this running his debate prep hes gotta be able to who be able to see or be ready for different looks for different Donald Trumps to show up. Now, luckily, the guys the most predictable creature on gods green earth. So its just a matter of being ready for this whole swath of it. You just cant you cant just say 2020 is the last trump we saw and itll be the trump we see. Yeah. I mean, our river preparing for the town hall. You can really watch a lot of his interviews, town halls, debates, and know kind of where he is going to go. I think thats a lot of politicians, but i mean, but the Biden Campaign called you, would you would you play donald trump again . They will need to, but you know what i was talking to friends about this today . Hey, its not being able to play donald trump, which i think i did pretty well. The reason i was good at it was because i knew Hillary Clinton. It was the combination of the two. If it was just knowing donald trump, alec baldwin would be the absolute best person to do these things. Because its you have to be able to bend it without breaking it for pink panther fans, i always thought youre not cato the guy. His house person that would jump out of the closet just attack them at any given moment when he wasnt looking, its more like a Baseball Catcher that is knows the hitter knows what pitch you wants to come from his picture, but also can look at his pictures. It can feel what heat, how much he has, and its that balance. And look, i dont i dont know joe biden know there are people like bob bauer who did it for him in 2020 and look a subjective are not joe biden did really, really well in 2020 or conversely, donald trump did really, really poorly in 2020. Well, well find out how they do in 2024 and just about six weeks fully, bryan is great to have you here next time where that also here today, we have some of our best political minds to talk about this remarkable moment get cnn political commentator and author of the moment bacardi sellers. Cnn senior political commentator who served as a special assistant president george w bush, scott jennings, and also former Trump White House Communications Director anthony scaramucci. I think bacardi, let me just start with you because this all happened really quickly this morning. Im an even inside the building here at cia did it was coded this energy of this is actually happening when we werent totally sure what happened. You know, i was surprised as well. Im surprised it agreed to something these two individuals agreed to something. Im surprised that they want to do it, and i think theres a certain glad there who Still Believes that donald trump will back out. I think theres going to be an issue about terms mike being cut off, et cetera. No audience. I mean, listen, ill be there. The de it happens, but there are a whole lot of people to think that this may not actually happens. Scott. I think its going to happen. I think trump has long said he wants it to him. He was the first one that throughout the idea of doing debates. Biden ignored it for weeks, 48 hours ago, we got a spate of terrible polls in the new york times, two days later, while are joe biden serwer, hail marys here, and were not even at halftime of this football game. So i think trump has said he wants to do it. They were happy to. I thought he had a confident posture by saying, sure. You said the terms. Ill be there. I mean, it its such a remarkable moment and to see what is coming after the white house was asked about that today. Scaramucci, Everyone Wants to know what you think about this, especially given you worked in the Trump White House. But first can i just remind everyone what it was like back in 2020 that first time that they were on the debate stage, hairs are just a refresher for those of you who dont know data. But here it is im the least racist person in this room. Abraham lincoln here is one of the most racist prejudice weve had in modern history. Were. Going to talk about all that. What the 2024 version of thats going to look like here from it, three scaramucci back in a moment belly. I need help with liquor one second, Grandma Disguise going to buy my car. Are you still there . Im okay. You need carbonyl. Whats your plate number . Boss mov vehicle features, no accidents, right . 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Something that trump and his team hid from the commission for president ial debates and from President Bidens team trumps Chief Of Staff at the time, mark meadows wrote in his own book, quote, nothing was going to stop trump from going out there. Even apparently if it meant putting President Bidens health and everyone else in that room at risk in any case, the debate did go on. But whether or not anyone could actually comprehend anything that was said i mean, see for yourself what to pack today, what you are you in fact, let people know. He isnt were senator russia. Im not going to answer the question the question the question. Justice left. Would you really takes you back. One of the rare moments on that stage where you could actually hear what was coming from either of the candidates. Trump gave this infamous response to whether or not you would condemn white supremacist im willing to do anything i wanted to see people what, sir. Do it say . You want to call them . What do you want to call them . Give me a name. Give me a medic and assess and right stan talk about that. Bove it if it is we were just about to get your thoughts forward to break i mean, the one thing is that joe biden looks at donald trump the same way he looks at Marjorie Taylor greene. I didnt notice that at the beginning. That startled, but from the state the second thing im going to say is that donald trump is underestimating the president because you could just hear it as kate is when hes talking, hes suggesting that the president will get weaker as he gets older towards the end of the campaign. That was the innuendo there and so the real question is, is youre going to come prepared like he was on the second debate in st. Louis in 2016 or xena come illprepared like he was on that night when he was bombastic and all over the place. And so i think philly ill. But one thing for sure is that the president is going to come prepared i think the president is going to surprise people because the expectations are going to begin with. Thats what i was going to comment on. I think there are two things at play here. The first is that my good friends got jinping and many others are going to come on tv on all the networks between now and june and set the Expectation Level for the president of the United States somewhere right around hill. Thats how low theyre going to be. I mean, theyre going to say that i dont know if he can walk on stage or he may trip and fall or is it not clock . He may fall asleep. So the bar of level of expectations is going to be extremely low. So that cuts against donald trump. What cuts against joe biden is history, because president s do not do well in first debates i mean George Hw Bush got destroyed by bill clinton in the first debate barack obama, somebody i love, you could talk to ax about it. He got his handed to him in the first debate by mitt romney i mean, he lost that debate. I mean, you can use the legendary arguments after him losing that debate are just well, that is it. Ego from being in the way because youre not used to somebody talking to

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