Do that as an 18 leinz to federal judge about that case in 2018. Does the prosecution have an airtight case . Ill let my nesc next guests debate that. Also had did these universities city of michigan protesters crossed the line, masked antiisrael activist putting fake corpses and bloodied stuffed animals outside the homes of several regions at the university city, one region who woke up to a list of demands on his door, will join me this hour plus the latest in our series, Homeless In America, City And ParkService Employees closing Homeless Encampments in washington, dc. Today, i went out to see their efforts. Are they fixing a problem when were just chasing it a few blocks away. But lets start with Donald TrumpsHush Money Cover Up Trial In Manhattan where the defense went after Michael Cohen and his past lives under oath, even suggesting that some of his testimony in this current trial has been dishonest. Cohens crossexamination will continue on monday. Were told cnns paula reads outside the courthouse and paula, the defense challenge cohens memory that he testified about just earlier this week about this october 24, 2016 phone call. Cohen said that that call was with trump about the hush money reimbursement. But tell us about how the defense tried to undermine that today. The first thing they did is they brought up exactly what he said under direct examination by prosecutors when he was asked, why did you need to speak with trump at that point in the evening of october 24, cohen testified to discuss the Stormy Daniels matter and the resolution of it and did you have an understanding about whether during that conversation you resolve that you were moving forward to fund the deal yes. Cohen said and the reason this was significant evidence for prosecutors is that this suggests that trump was aware of this conspiracy to conceal this Hush Money Payment to Stormy Daniels in the days leading up to the election, theres also new evidence. This is not something that wed ever heard previously, but today, todd blanche came with receipts and he pointed to a law that timeline of events from that day where that evening Michael Cohen texted keith schiller. So trumps body man about Prank Phone Calls Halls that he had been getting from a teenager. Schiller then tells cohen to call him. Cohen then Call Schiller and they have a 92nd conversation. The defense attorneys, of course, asked okay. Why are we supposed to believe that you called him after that exchange when you have a 14yearold, a prankster who is begging you not to sick the Secret Service on them. We see these receipts, we see this evidence. Why would we think that that 92nd call was about Stormy Daniels . Cohen responded saying that part of the call was schiller was about the 14yearold, but i know that keith was keith was with trump at the time and there was potentially more than this now, he says that was a lie. You did not talk to President Trump. You talk to keith schiller. You can admit it. Cohen replied, no, sir. I dont know that is accurate. And at one point in this exchange, cohen kind of fell back to saying, look, i dont recall but this was a significant blow to Michael Cohens credibility about this specific phone call because again, they came with records and Michael Cohen has never testified hi to this before. So in terms of sowing seeds of doubt about this significant piece of evidence, it appears that todd blanche was incredibly significant. So jake, over the next threeday weekend and the prosecutors have from this case, are you combat . Theyre trying to brainstorm ways to clean this up. All paula reid, thanks so much. Lets bring in attorney George Conway, who was inside the courtroom what room today, as well as in studio here with me, former trump attorney tim parlatore, george. You were in court do you agree with paul reads assessment and the assessment . Smith made by other journalists, other people in the room, that todd blanche really took a hammer to Michael Cohens credibility, especially on that october 24, 2016 phone call, assertion, what was your take i thought it was a mixed bag. I dont i dont think he was particularly effective. All day overall. I thought i thought that there were some some good points that were scored here and there and particularly about the, you know, about his history of lying and mystery of misstatements. But it was scattered was to he took too long. The question he took too long to get to each point it should have been done much more quickly. And as a result, it was it just felt meandering and ineffectual and the thing that also surprised me was that how a little of the crossexaminati on really addressed the case . I mean pollock refers to that one circumstance just before lunch about that october 24 phone call the when to schillers phone. And yes, that was good cross, i would have been if i were the crossexamined her, i would have been good thing to crossexamine Michael Cohen on, but i didnt think it was some particularly effectively and i thought, okay, wow, then they must have some war after lunch. Where are they going to pick up . Part some of the other calls because theres just a mountain of evidence that really shows a President Trump involvement and mike and weisselbergs involvement in and a lots of phone calls. And that was in the afternoon. There was like the entropy. It went back to meandering even more week meandering than in the mornings saif about how many times has Maggie Haberman of the New York Times written about you . And it was really hard to follow. And i dont know that the thing i would be worried about it if i were the defense is that that good point just before lunch was lost in all the meandering and ineffective examination that occurred the rest of the day. Now, maybe theyve got something theyre saving for monday. And for their sake, i think theyd better hoped so, but by enlarge, i dont, you know for all looking at the effectiveness of the direct examination from 2015 on past the election and all the corroborated documentation in the corroborating phone records just nitpicking at this one call. I just dont think its going to be enough and i have a feeling that on redirect its gonna get all cleaned up by the prosecution. I think i know how they can do that. Yeah. But well see yeah. So tim, there is going to be redirect. The prosecution has said so lets set its going to be less than an hour how to clean it up . Well, what would you recommend that they do to clean it up for Michael Cohen yeah. I kind of disagree with what george said there because i think that was a significant point yet. Sure. There was a lot of meandering there, but how do you clean it up . You have to find some way to explain the fact that he lied on direct yeah. At this and to really plug that up because the prosecutions biggest problem here is they have a lot of corroboration for the things that are not in dispute. They have a lot of corroboration for the things that are not elements of the crime. But the pieces that actually put donald trump into the the alleged crime, those elements, those are the things that there is no cooperation for. You have to rely upon Michael Cohens word. You have to lie upon his word of what they said in a conversation thats not transcribed. And when you can show this one called the eu are very specific about that was a lie you may not have those perfect Text Messages to show that the other calls were allies. And so if all youre relying upon is there is a phone records showing there was a call and then theres Michael Cohen saying what happened there. Thats not something you can rely upon and a lot of what cross is is youre building points for the summation. Yeah. So i dont know how you really rehabilitate that jordans, obviously, during the testimony, i want to just i think i think that mr. Palpatory is grossly over stating that the that the prosecution showed that Michael Cohen lied at that instance. I mean, it shows that he didnt initially recall that part of the call may have he had to do with this 14yearold person who is making phone calls about harassing phone calls, but its not inconsistent since with the proposition that both he might have talked a schiller about that very briefly and then told, hey, boss, get put the boss on, hey, boss the we fix the problem. And theres no thats well see what they say on redirect, but i mean, i didnt get the overall feeling that that michael was flomax than that he had been shown to allied. May have he may have been shown to have forgotten a particular aspect of something that happened that de, in may may or may not have been a part of that phone call. But to say that it was this devastating lie that were shown they didnt get there and they needed to and i was in court room and i saw yeah. Yeah. Go ahead. This may be the difference in georgia as a civil lawyer may is a criminal lawyer because ultimately this is about reasonable doubt. And by showing this, this is something raised reasonable that in a moment that you start saying, well, its possible that it could have been the way hey, that he said it. Its possible that he possible thats reasonable doubt and so i appreciate i appreciate georgias a picture of that is the answer that is thats just one small piece of the puzzle and police, so this story, its not, its not the whole thing. And you have to let reasonable doubt in terms of the whole story and whether there is a plausible set of facts that is consistent with the entirety of this massive record of that somebody could say, you know, i dont i think its possible that trump didnt now, What The Hell is going on and i think you have to be half brain dead to think that maybe they may be get one, they may get one or two jurors to say that, but whos who knows . Tim . I think an unbiased youre is going to take a look at this and theyre going to take the evidence from both sides and make a reasonable decision. Thank and you think they will find reasonable doubt based on what i think i think that reasonable doubt has been. So not just from this single point. And no george sudden like that, but not just the singlepoint, but theres a lot of Different Things here. Plus theres the defense case to put on. Yeah. They put on bob gastel. Thats going to be a lot of reasonable doubt. George, what do you make it at the idea that the defense might put on . On bob costello, who would as if he follows what he did in an congress yesterday. Well take a hammer to a whole bunch of assertions. Michael cohen may i mean, thats thats that could be very helpful for defense. They they need something they need to put on some kind of case to contradict these critical, these, these, these critical but small pieces connecting the various doc memory. The documentary trail. And well see if they come up with somebody they may come up with somebody, but they need something because they didnt quite du it. They didnt come they didnt do nef or nearly enough to my mind with the cross today, which was largely ineffectual. I wouldnt say that they didnt lay a glove on on on michael. They brushed him a little and maybe he slapped him once. But i just i just dont see that thats enough. George conway, a reasonable doubt on this record George Conway content parlatore. Thanks so much. 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And this is cnn closed captioning is brought to you by skechers, handsfree slip ends, step in the future like i did when you handsfree skechers slip into the secret is slip ends have an invisible filth in shoe horn to your foot slide ions into place to try skechers slip in and are 2024 lead today, President Biden is denying House Republicans the audio from his interview with Special Counsel robert hur over his handling of classified documents. President Biden AssertingExecutive Privilege today. Hurs report, as you may recall, concluded that no charges should be brought. Again since the president saying that he would likely suggesting that he would likely come across well to a jury because he was a quote wellmeaning elderly man with a poor memory or thats how the jury would take him. There is a written transcript of the two interviews which happened the day after hamas attacked israel on october 7. And there are parts of the transcript that read as though the president is strong struggling to remember key dates and years for example, on page 83, President Biden and whats happened in the meantime is that as and precedent and trump gets elected in November Of 2017 on identified male speaker says 2016. President biden 16 2016. All right. So why do i have 2017 here, mr. Cisco . Thats the White House Council. Thats when he left office. January 2017. President biden . Yeah. Okay. But thats trump gets sworn in in january. Mr. Cisco, the white house counsel, right today, attorney general Merrick Garland defended the move to not release the audio to House Republicans we have gone to extraordinary lengths to ensure that committees get responses to their lives gentlemen, requests but this is not one to the contrary, this is one that would harm our ability in the future too successfully pursue center sort of investigations for full disclosure purposes. We should note cnn is also trying to get that audio as well for journalistic purposes, l