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CNN The Whole Story With Anderson Cooper September 16, 2024

Social media to criticize and the president, according to authorities, the former president was in the middle of a round of golf. Today, secret service agent was walking ahead of the president and his party to secure the area. That's when the agents saw the barrel of a rifle poking out of the fence. We don't know at this moment whether shots were fired by the man with the rival, the man they've now detained. But the secret service says that an agent did fire shots toward that person. The man ran away. Authorities were able to capture him thanks to the help of an eyewitness who identified the man took a photograph of his vehicle. They'd now detain that person. Authorities also released these photos. They say that in the bushes where the man was scene, they found an ak47 style rifle, a scope, two backpacks, ceramic tiles a gopro camera. This ramette towels are in those backpacks you see hanging up as a kind of fence to protect the alleged shooter. Authorities also addressed how someone with a rifle and scope would be able to get near the former president again, just two months after that previous assassination attempt that the rifle was porn and out our agents engaged. We are not sure right now if we individual was able to take a shot or our agents like for sure, our agents were able to engage with pearson the former president later told supporters in a fundraising email that he is safe and well and then quote, nothing will slow me down our evan perez is following the investigation for us tonight, including this social media accounts of the person now detained. So what's the fbi saying about what happened today and how it all went down? well, anderson ryan route. Is the person who's now been detained now we don't know. Right now the language that the authorities are using. They're not directly accusing him of attempting to carry out this assassination, but it is clear he is the only person who was who has been detained and we've learned a lot more just in the last few hours looking at some of the social media county social media accounts, we know the fbi is combing through these little bit better picture of a portal possible motivation, but a lot of it appears to emerge from those social media posts he's stopped hunch and frequent critic of donald trump on those social media accounts and he also is in support of kamala harris and joe biden. I'll read you just a part of one of the one of the references he makes to the butler a tacit nation attempt on donald trump back in july. He refers to that and he's says a to kamala harris. He says, you and biden should visit the injured people in the hospital from the trump rally attend the funeral of the murdered fire man, trump will never do anything for them. Now, he also refers to the former president's maga movement. He refers to it as make america mahsa. He says, make americans slaves. Again and says democracy is on the line. We cannot lose. He's also a frequent poster on ukraine and encouraging people to go fight in ukraine. Anderson, we know from his background, he ran a, an affordable housing company back in hawaii, but more recently he appears to have been living in north carolina where he voted in the democratic primary according to the state records, we also anderson heard a tonight our investigative team reached out to his son and managed to reach him i'll read you just a part of a text that we got from him, his name is oren and he says that his father was a loving thing and caring father, hardworking men. And he also said that he hopes that these things have just been blown out of proportion because if the, if the little i've heard it doesn't sound like the man i know to do anything crazy, much less investigating this as an attempted assassination anderson, we anticipate that federal charges are imminent, perhaps in the next day or so, anderson. All right. Evan perez. Thank you. Randi kaye is outside the golf course four. So what more do we know? about the foreign president tonight with anderson? he remained here at the golf club, trump international golf club for several hours following this incident, according course, they wanted sure it was safe and secure before they moved him beyond the gates here, we actually arrived here at trump international, just as the motorcade was leaving here they took him back to maralago, which is about 15 minutes from here in west palm beach. We have not seen the former president since then, but he did send out a couple of funds raising emails writing, i am safe and well, my resolve is stronger. So again, we haven't seen him. We haven't heard from him beyond those fundraising emails, but i can tell you that house speaker mike johnson did visit with him at mar alago this afternoon for several hours. He posted a photo with him saying that he had been there visiting him, but again, anderson no no further there are word beyond those fundraising emails tonight randi, i hadn't realized how close that golf course. And first of all, i hadn't realized that golf course is separate from where maralago is? the foreign prison has to actually drive from maralago to his golf course, that it remains open to members and i guess paid guess even when he's there and that how open it is, it's it's flanked by several main roads and sidewalks that people can walk on yeah, absolutely understand. As i said, it's it's it's about ten or 15 minutes, but mar alago itself does not have a golf course on the premises. So this is where many, come and. Play. But it is flanked by these very heavily trafficked roads that we're here on summit boulevard, which still remains closed tonight in the club entrance is right behind me. There there's a guard shack that you would have to go through to enter. But the fifth and sixth hole where we have been focusing on today where this incident apparently took place that is on the corner summit boulevard where we are and congress avenue. So it's just right down the road here from from us where this apparently happened. And there are bushes there it's unclear if that's exactly where the fences, but that was roped off earlier. So perhaps someone could get through the fences right through the bushes right off one of these major drags and then they would come upon offense that would be protecting the golf course. But it is there's no big wall that is that is surrounding this trump era her national golf club or anything like that. So somebody could certainly poke their way through those bushes. Anderson, randi kaye. Thank you. As soon as kim rot is in los angeles and new information about the man detained. What have you learned? well, anderson, we are getting much more of a picture of who this man is and we're actually seeing the first images of him. Our investigative team has been going through the internet, going through various social media websites, and we now know that this is ryan, leslie, ralph. He is age 58, the images that you are seeing here are publicly available on social media websites and these are posted, the ones that you saw with ukrainian and with various soldiers that the he went to kyiv, he went to ukraine, went to the front lines, and he traveled there in 2022 he was raising money for the war effort. He personally traveled there. He was encouraging others to join among his friends as well as just across social media, encouraging this fight for democracy as he was writing on social media, we're also getting a fuller image of who this 58yearold man is. We know that he had been living in hawaii as well as in north carolina in hawaii, he was a self employed affordable housing builder. He started his own company in 2018 called camp box honolulu and it builds storage units for those tiny houses that you see in a lot of urban areas. And those tiny houses, according to a an article written about him in the local newspaper, was to help homeless people in north carolina. He had been registered as an unaffiliated voter without a party in 2012, he democratic primary in march of this year, according to the north carolina state board of elections. And he had contributed more more than 100 $100 to act blue that is the website. That process donations for democrats. And this is according to federal campaign finance records. We also are learning that he did have brushes with the law, especially in north carolina. There are several incidents. The 2002 incident that you've been talking about with some of our experts on set there, that he was arrested after being pulled over by police and had barricaded himself with a firearm inside of a business that was confirmed via law enforcement and also public records confirm a number for of cases dating back to the 1990s he has been repeatedly, repeatedly accused of not paying his taxes on time. Judges have ordered him to pay tens of thousands of dollars to plaintiffs and various civil suits but you see the man right there. He at least just looking at that picture you can understand where his eldest son, in a text message with one of our producers in the investigative unit told cnn that ralph was a loving and caring father and honest hard working man. The sun road, i don't know what's happened in florida and i hope things have just been blown out of proportion because from the little i've heard it doesn't sound like the man i know to do anything crazy, much less violet. So a very confusing picture splitting his time in between two very far where he places and traveling to some place very far for an effort that it we're still trying to figure out exactly what kind of personal connection he had to end anderson, but just to be clear, i know the sun obviously he loves his dad and said those things about his head, but just be clear about not do anything crazy. You're saying he barricaded himself into a business with a weapon within a standoff with police long ago and has mean that's yes. And to taxes and also didn't pay bills that he owed money to people for is that right indeed. Indeed okay. Kyung lah, thanks very much. Appreciate. We're learning, trying to learn as much as we can about this person joining us. Now cnn's evan perez, retired fbi special agent daniel brunner cnn, senior national security analyst juliette kayyem, jonathan wackrow, former secret service agent evan, i know you received that statement from the detain persons. Son, have you learned anything new about about the overall investigation at this stage or where does it where do we stand on this? dino? well, initially adelson, the initial word, at least on the ground was that he wasn't very cooperative with investigators. We believe that that obviously it is something that will change if it hasn't already the fbi is pursuing this investigation, does they've got plenty to work with, including of course, some of the things that they found at the scene, the gopro the ballistics they backpack that he had there and of course the ak47 variant that he carried with him, according to the fbi. Now, that's going to provide a lot of clues. They'll know when did he obtain this firearm? perhaps give them a sense of how long he's been planning this. Clearly, he was aware and noticed what happened in butler, pennsylvania just a few weeks to go because he posted on social media about it. So now the question is, how long has he been planning to target the former president, at least again, looking at what happened today, there has to have been some kind of planning. One of the things that certainly has been raised in i've seen kristen holmes reporting this and as the former president wasn't supposed to be golfing today. And so the big question is then how did this person no, to be at this specific location? how long have they been there? how long have they been pursuing this goal? all of those things, of course, the fbi is going to try to answer the coming days jonathan, what stands out to you right now? what are you hearing from the secret service about this event well, listen. Good evening, anderson. When you think about this from a threat perspective, secret service looks at this in two parts, motivation and intent. And let me talk to the motivation first, really this is the underlying drivers that deal we're pushing this individual to engage in this act and launch this attack and really when you think about motivational factors, oftentimes they're like narcissistic grievances. My my thought is better than yours on better than you. We see this oftentimes with assassins in people who engage in acts of shooting and mass shooting that what we hear here is like what were those grievances, what was that's what the fbi is looking into right now, is those underlying reasons, but the intent here is really important. It's that conscious decision in the preparation for the attack. And i think that when we we look at this, it's really disturbing to see that this individual was able to find a location. I'm sure that as this we're going to see that there was probably some preattack surveillance that the shooter chose this location for a very specific line of sight region isn't again, going towards intent. We see the gopro. This is trying to record and you'll potentially live stream of this attack. The nuance of the ballistic plates, the ceramic plates and backpacks again, really anticipating some sort of fight that's going on on here. So when we look at those things the motivation and the intent combined together with this new reporting, it really paints a very dangerous picture of this individual. And again, i think that the actions by the secret service today in the coordination and communication with local and state law enforcement when partners really averted a tragic event from actually happening, you, jonathan, the presence that the fact that he set up a gopro on the fence, i don't know if it was going to be pointing at him or if it was going to be pointing down range. I'm not sure what shot he wanted to get from that gopro, but the fact that and juliette kayyem and had mentioned the christ church shooter who livestreamed obviously hamas terrorists using documenting and even live streaming. Some of their terrorism on october 7. The idea that he had the presence of mind to take time to actually set up that go pro in addition to building that shield front of him is interesting. Can you explain the different shows in protecting a sitting president versus a 40 president and a presidential candidate. Well, anderson, i think that the labels have to be eliminated here by the secret service of like what differentiates this person from that person based upon their political role, we have to really look at the environment now from a threatbased methodology, because donald trump does not fit the former president model not barack obama is up. President bush or clinton, right? his threat environment is drastically different, both from domestic actors and the overarching threat from iran. So that is something that is unprecedented with a former president and current republican nominee for the office of the presidency. So we have to eliminate these labels in really focus on applying every appropriate measure to protect the individual based upon the threats that they're facing. And we're now know because of today's actions that these threats are just compounding for the former president a

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