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Voted for a democrat to topple trump casting my vote for vice president kamala harris republican liz cheney takes to the campaign trail to tell voters why kamala harris is the only choice in november plus what he said that dying and what they're getting no help from our federal government. He actually did donald trump's record of withholding help to disaster stricken communities desperate for it no reading between the lines. There is no room for compromise. Melania trump makes clear what does my body my choice really mean, what she believes about abortion is wildly different than her maga husband's party live at the table madison, jesse auto, van jones, ramesh ponnuru and now euro hop with 32 days to go? americans with different perspectives aren't talking to each other. But here they do in new york. Let's get right to what america is talking about. Maybe the strangest political pairing ever while tonight, liz cheney standing sidebyside with kamala harris in wisconsin, and officially endorsing harris for president. The republican encouraged republicans and independents to join her. And she listed many reasons since why she's voting against donald trump. But chief among them was the issue of the january 6 attack. And trump's refusal to do anything resembling taking responsibility for it democrat or republican or an independent that is depravity and we must never become numb to it any person any person who would do these things can never be trusted with power. Again as you can imagine, trump had a very strong reaction to the cheney harris event congress she was terrible. Liz cheney is a stupid warhawk. All she wants to do is shoot missiles at paypal. I really think it hurts. I think frankly kamala, i think they're hurt each other. I think there's so bad boss so here we are in the upside down world that was warhawk, that he's had not worked hagee even though you're radically, you could see donald trump saying either of those things but i mean, the change endorsement is sort of a shock to the political system, but will it matter is what i'm wondering. I have a hard time seeing how it changes any of these socalled undecided voters. But i also have a hard time saying that anybody doesn't already have an opinion about donald trump and kamala harris, that there are voters who are identifies unaffiliated people know the candidate, they know generally the issues what this does is potentially help with some of the enthusiasm folks who may have been more likely to stay home, who may consider and maybe some of those were white women who have voted for trump in high percentages and both elections. Maybe that's part of what this is, is that building that enthusiasm that, you know, either you stay home or maybe you're like, okay, i can turn out for this combination now. I want to play a little bit more of cheney because it's just, it's not just the antitrump part of it. She actually made an affirmative case for kamala harris. Listen that a president harris, that president harris will be able to unite this nation. I know that she will be a president who will defend the rule of law and i know that she will be a president who can inspire all of our children. And if i might say so, especially our little girls ever thought i would hear liz cheney say something like that even the idea of her giving voice to this aspiration, that of many americans to have a woman president just seems so foreign. But here we are i was reminded when she made that remark also, that pretty much with the exception of trump, most of the time, every president has said, i'm going to unite the country and none of them has succeeded in doing it. And i would be very, very skeptical that harris but getting back to this question of the political import, i think that harris actually me, that the cheney does represent a lot of voters. There were a lot of sort of incest rowley republican voters, people who voted republican in the past, but voted for clinton and voted for biden because, for various reasons they consider trump unacceptable. Cheney speech for those voters but i wonder if harris hasn't already maxed out with that kind of voter who was moved by the question of democracy and trump's threat to it. What do you think? i mean, i think that antitrump voters are already with cheney there already with kamala, are there certainly against trump? the people that were undecided, you have to give them something to jump about. I mean, you have to give them that excitement. You have to inspire them and i don't think anything about her speech necessarily did that. I think it's very difficult to see a world in which this really changes anything, especially when you look, i mean, on tuesday at the vice presidential debate over 43 million people watch this and that's unlikely to change things and the reality is obviously jd vance had a very good performance on tuesday. I think he impressed any people that weren't expecting for him to do as well as he did. And that's not likely to ship the needle. I don't think liz cheney speech today is going to really do much of anything. There are, there are some gettable voters, about almost 10% of the electorate in wisconsin. Some things matter for reasons that aren't directly tied to voter behavior. You know, we focus on that a lot because we're 30 days out from an election. But i think this matters from the point of view of history kamala harris is building a pro democracy coalition she's building a united front to stop authoritarianism. United states now, to me, i don't care if one more person boats for or against her based on the stand, what i'm proud of is that the antibodies seem to be kicking in that when you have the cheneys and when you have aoc and when you have taylor swift, when you have so much of american society coming together, saying, we literally brion nothing except that this person should not be the president united states, because we do not trust that this person will honor our constitution. I think that's significant. I don't know if the changes different from 2020 it does and how i mean, is it because it did feel it has felt in the past that a lot of people in culture and in sports and in politics have turned against trump, but that hasn't stopped trump from performing extremely well. Look, i don't know how this is going to work out. I mean, there's a clash that's coming and there are people who are on the trump side who see it very differently. But what i'm saying is this is a much broader coalition around common harris. It seems to me, again liz cheney was not standing next to kamala harris or joe biden or anybody of four years ago. And what it does bring back into the narrative is that reminder of what happened on january 6, right. Let's cheney was an adam kinzinger there. It was a bipartisan panel that went through and looked at everything and displayed that video and information for the american public. That that has been forgotten to some degree. So this represents this idea of what a quote unquote, old school by bipartisanship looks like. The idea of return to a set of democratic principles but it doesn't change the enthusiasm people who like trump have for trump if you look at polling and talk about what actually authoritarianism actions are, 40% of americans are perfectly fine with it. So this is why it's discussed as a battle for american democracy and pluralism because there is a very different worldview that trump presents about how america should operate it. And then decided voters. I mean, you continue to you see the polling, especially in these very important critical swing states, they continue to say the economy's their most important issue followed obviously very closely in many places by immigration. And that's not what was talked down today. Obviously, liz cheney and kamala harris have very different views on those issues. And so i think talking about policy, there wouldn't have made sense, but that's what i think could sway a lie though. One of the things, that keeps this going as a topic is that donald trump keeps denying said, yeah, that trump did not lose in 2020. So they want to simultaneously say, oh, you democrats are obsessed with 2020 and themselves remain obsessed with pretty, i mean, let me, let me just actually play what trump said today because this wasn't even a question to him. He just said coughed that up. We know last time, last election, we did great in 2016, a lot of people don't know we did much better in 2020 we won, we won we won is a rigged election it was a rigged election you have to tell kamala harris that's why i'm doing it again, if i thought i lost, i would be you know, where i'd be right down the beaches of montecarlo. Baby are some place? it's almost like he's trying to remind himself why he's dead. He's creating or, you know reinvigorating this narrative. And by the way a couple of weeks ago, he was saying he lost. So which one is i don't know, but i will say this jd vance just from a pure performance basis, did very well at the debate. He will live a whole time, but he did very well while he was lying. The problem is they lost the debate about the debate because at the very end jd vance falls down these, stairs and can't just say the obvious that donald trump lost. This continues to be the an albatross around the neck of this campaign. And for donalds i mean, it's one thing for donald trump to get up there on his little pogo stick and say this is nonsense. But jd vance literally flushed his hold debate performance down the toilet over the same as well and it's, it comes across to folks who are watching this as a complete denial of reality for the last four years i biden has been in the white house even president, right? we, we saw what happened on january 6 so the if you're want to say that the economy or immigration of the top issues for voters, but you're talking, you're denying this other basic reality. It is hard to have credibility and confidence in that ticket. You know, the other thing that's i think kind of interesting is that vietnam just try to sort of tap dance around this in the past. He said, oh, there are problems with the 2020 election. It was unfair for social media companies do this and that, that's not the same thing, of course, as saying that trump actually won the election. He sort of avoided going that far until really today because it's audience of one at the end of the day i'm happy. It is a litmus test in trump's circle that you must acknowledge his worked view of this, which is that he falsely claims that he won. I mean, jd vance knows that he knows that he would be thrown off the boat immediately if he were to even give a hint of acknowledging that everyone stick around for us coming up next donald trump, as former white house advisers, they are making a allegation that he wanted to refuse disaster relief money to blue states. A special guests is going to join us in our fifth seat on that plus melania trump is undercutting her own husband on two major campaign issues. Just one month before the election really mean? on television and off television. Now, when push for entire career here she could have lost everything owns coming out episode suddenly tends to the world. Hey, it's okay to be gay everyone was talking about it. It was national event. I don't think i realized how much it meant to the community until i saw people watching the episode tv on the edge moments that shaped our whole term. Sunday at nine on cnn, at simply safe we build advanced security sensors and cameras for your whole home, powered by 24/7 professional monitoring and fast protect technology exclusively from simply safe for faster police response. There's no safe like simply safe his outdated dmv has two forms of my id think of all the places that can expose your inference lifelock monitors millions of data points for identity. There's a problem. We fix it, guaranteed the road ahead alexa senex sika can help you keep living life with the ones you love. Ask your doctor about far sega today? for speaker can cause serious side effects, including ketoacidosis that you fatal dehydration, urinary tract, or genital yeast infections and low blood sugar. A rare lifethreatening bacterial infection in the skin apparently him could occur, stopped taking for sega and call your doctor right away at the symptoms of this infection and allergic reaction or ketoacidosis everywhere these days. And so the questions. Do you have to be on the meds for forever? how can i keep the muscle and loads of fans little weight come back? that's why we build new glp1 companion with muscle defense. It's your personal guide to smarter glp1 weight loss us now available at noon. Com. If anyone knows, halloween is all about black and michael's has all the record we made mattress. Rematches firm i sleep firms upgrade your sleep self, learn how to get a type of edic for $1 per month through 2024 and a $300 instant gift that match, that mattress firm sleep at night we've always love taking care of our home. But last year, grandpa here broke his arm. We realized somehow maintenance jobs aren't worth the risk. That's when we call lee filter to protect our gutters filters, patented filter technology keeps debris out of your gutters for good. They gave us a free inspection and we had the system installed that week. Mile and regret is not calling him sooner. Now can focus on what we really enjoyed. Join millions of satisfied homeowne let's say you're deep in a show or a game or the game. On a train, at home, at work. Okay, maybe not at work. Point is at xfinity. We're constantly engineering new ways to get the entertainment you love to you faster and easier than ever. That's what i do. Is that love island? i'm bill weir on the california coast and this is cnn people are dying in north carolina. They're dying all over those 56 states are dying. And they are getting no help from our federal government because they have no money, because their money has been spent on people that should not be in our country donald trump, there is wrong disaster relief money is separate from the money that goes to migrants needs. And both the white house and fema have now responded to that wildly spreading false claim. Now that aid is being provided to help victims of the hurricane and there's not being siphoned away from other purposes. But some of trump's own former white house aides are now saying that when he was in office, he initially refused to help blue states with disaster relief, joining us now in our fifth seat is cnn's vice president <\/a>kamala harris republican liz cheney <\/a>takes to the campaign trail <\/a>to tell voters why kamala harris is the only choice in november plus what he said that dying and what they're getting no help from our federal government. He actually did donald trump's record of withholding help <\/a>to disaster stricken communities <\/a>desperate for it no reading between the lines. There is no room for compromise. Melania trump makes clear what does my body my choice really mean, what she believes about abortion is wildly different than her maga husband's party live at the table madison,<\/a> jesse auto,<\/a> van jones,<\/a> ramesh ponnuru <\/a>and now euro hop <\/a>with 32 days to go? americans with different perspectives aren't talking to each other. But here they do in new york.<\/a> Let's get right to what america is talking about. Maybe the strangest political pairing ever while tonight, liz cheney standing <\/a>sidebyside with kamala harris in wisconsin, and officially endorsing harris for president. The republican encouraged republicans and independents to join her. And she listed many reasons since why she's voting against donald trump. But chief among them was the issue of the january 6 <\/a>attack. And trump's refusal to do anything resembling taking responsibility for it democrat or republican <\/a>or an independent that is depravity and we must never become numb to it any person any person who would do these things can never be trusted with power. Again as you can imagine, trump had a very strong reaction to the cheney harris <\/a>event congress she was terrible. Liz cheney is a stupid warhawk. All she wants to do is shoot missiles at paypal. I really think it hurts. I think frankly kamala,<\/a> i think they're hurt each other. I think there's so bad boss so here we are in the upside down <\/a>world that was warhawk, that he's had not worked hagee even though you're radically, you could see donald trump saying either of those things but i mean, the change endorsement <\/a>is sort of a shock to the political system, but will it matter is what i'm wondering. I have a hard time seeing how it changes any of these socalled undecided voters. But i also have a hard time saying that anybody doesn't already have an opinion about donald trump and kamala harris, that there are voters who are identifies unaffiliated people know the candidate, they know generally the issues what this does is potentially help with some of the enthusiasm folks <\/a>who may have been more likely to stay home, who may consider and maybe some of those were white women who have voted for trump in high percentages and both elections. Maybe that's part of what this is, is that building that enthusiasm that, you know, either you stay home or maybe you're like, okay, i can turn out for this combination now. I want to play a little bit more of cheney because it's just, it's not just the antitrump part of it. She actually made an affirmative case for kamala harris. Listen that a president harris, that president harris will be able to unite this nation. I know that she will be a president who will defend the rule of law <\/a>and i know that she will be a president who can inspire all of our children. And if i might say so, especially our little girls ever thought i would hear liz cheney say something like that even the idea of her giving voice to this aspiration, that of many americans to have a woman president <\/a>just seems so foreign. But here we are i was reminded when she made that remark also, that pretty much with the exception of trump, most of the time, every president has said, i'm going to unite the country and none <\/a>of them has succeeded in doing it. And i would be very, very skeptical that harris but getting back to this question of the political import, i think that harris actually me, that the cheney does represent a lot of voters. There were a lot of sort of incest rowley <\/a>republican voters, people who voted republican in the past, but voted for clinton and voted for biden because, for various reasons they consider trump unacceptable. Cheney speech for those voters but i wonder if harris hasn't already maxed out with that kind of voter who was moved by the question of democracy and trump's threat to it. What do you think? i mean, i think that antitrump voters are already with cheney there already with kamala, are there certainly against trump? the people that were undecided, you have to give them something to jump about. I mean, you have to give them that excitement. You have to inspire them and i don't think anything about her speech necessarily did that. I think it's very difficult to see a world in which this really changes anything, especially when you look, i mean, on tuesday at the vice presidential debate over 43 million <\/a>people watch this and that's unlikely to change things and the reality is obviously jd vance had a very good performance on tuesday. I think he impressed any people that weren't expecting for him to do as well as he did. And that's not likely to ship the needle. I don't think liz cheney speech <\/a>today is going to really do much of anything. There are, there are some gettable voters, about almost 10% of the electorate in wisconsin. Some things matter <\/a>for reasons that aren't directly tied to voter behavior.<\/a> You know, we focus on that a lot because we're 30 days out from an election. But i think this matters from the point of view <\/a>of history kamala harris is building a pro democracy coalition <\/a>she's building a united front <\/a>to stop authoritarianism. United states <\/a>now, to me, i don't care if one more person boats for or against her based on the stand,<\/a> what i'm proud of is that the antibodies seem to be kicking in that when you have the cheneys and when you have aoc and when you have taylor swift,<\/a> when you have so much of american society <\/a>coming together, saying, we literally brion nothing except that this person should not be the president united states, because we do not trust that this person will honor our constitution. I think that's significant. I don't know if the changes different from 2020 it does and how i mean, is it because it did feel it has felt in the past that a lot of people in culture and in sports and in politics have turned against trump, but that hasn't stopped trump from performing extremely well. Look, i don't know how this is going to work out. I mean, there's a clash that's coming and there are people who are on the trump side <\/a>who see it very differently. But what i'm saying is this is a much broader coalition <\/a>around common harris.<\/a> It seems to me, again liz cheney was not standing next to kamala harris or joe biden <\/a>or anybody of four years ago. And what it does bring back into the narrative is that reminder of what happened on january 6, right. Let's cheney was an adam kinzinger <\/a>there. It was a bipartisan panel that went through and looked at everything and displayed that video and information <\/a>for the american <\/a>public. That that has been forgotten to some degree. So this represents this idea of what a quote unquote,<\/a> old school <\/a>by bipartisanship looks like. The idea of return to a set of democratic principles but it doesn't change the enthusiasm people <\/a>who like trump have for trump if you look at polling and talk about what actually authoritarianism actions are, 40% of americans are perfectly fine with it. So this is why it's discussed as a battle for american democracy <\/a>and pluralism because there is a very different worldview that trump presents about how america should operate it. And then decided voters. I mean, you continue to you see the polling, especially in these very important critical swing states,<\/a> they continue to say the economy's their most important issue followed obviously very closely in many places by immigration. And that's not what was talked down today.<\/a> Obviously, liz cheney and kamala harris have very different views on those issues. And so i think talking about policy, there wouldn't have made sense, but that's what i think could sway a lie though. One of the things, that keeps this going as a topic is that donald trump keeps denying said, yeah, that trump did not lose in 2020. So they want to simultaneously say, oh, you democrats are obsessed with 2020 and themselves remain obsessed with pretty, i mean, let me, let me just actually play what trump said today because this wasn't even a question to him. He just said coughed that up. We know last time, last election, we did great in 2016, a lot of people don't know we did much better in 2020 we won, we won we won is a rigged election it was a rigged election you have to tell kamala harris that's why i'm doing it again, if i thought i lost, i would be you know, where i'd be right down the beaches of montecarlo. Baby are some place? it's almost like he's trying to remind himself why he's dead. He's creating or, you know reinvigorating this narrative. And by the way a couple of weeks ago, he was saying he lost. So which one is i don't know, but i will say this jd vance just from a pure performance basis,<\/a> did very well at the debate. He will live a whole time, but he did very well while he was lying. The problem is they lost the debate about the debate because at the very end jd vance <\/a>falls down these, stairs and can't just say the obvious that donald trump lost. This continues to be the an albatross around the neck of this campaign. And for donalds i mean, it's one thing for donald trump to get up there on his little pogo stick <\/a>and say this is nonsense. But jd vance literally flushed his hold debate performance <\/a>down the toilet over the same as well and it's, it comes across to folks who are watching this as a complete denial of reality for the last four years i biden has been in the white house <\/a>even president, right? we, we saw what happened on january 6 <\/a>so the if you're want to say that the economy or immigration of the top issues for voters, but you're talking, you're denying this other basic reality. It is hard to have credibility and confidence <\/a>in that ticket. You know, the other thing that's i think kind of interesting is that vietnam just try to sort of tap dance <\/a>around this in the past. He said, oh, there are problems with the 2020 election. It was unfair for social media companies <\/a>do this and that, that's not the same thing, of course, as saying that trump actually won the election. He sort of avoided going that far until really today because it's audience of one at the end <\/a>of the day i'm happy. It is a litmus test <\/a>in trump's circle that you must acknowledge his worked view of this, which is that he falsely claims that he won. I mean, jd vance knows that he knows that he would be thrown off the boat immediately if he were to even give a hint of acknowledging that everyone stick <\/a>around for us coming up next <\/a>donald trump, as former white house <\/a>advisers, they are making a allegation that he wanted to refuse disaster relief money <\/a><\/a>to blue states. A special guests is going to join us in our fifth seat <\/a>on that plus melania trump <\/a>is undercutting her own husband on two major campaign issues.<\/a> Just one month before the election really mean? on television and off television.<\/a> Now, when push for entire career here she could have lost everything owns coming out episode suddenly tends to the world. Hey, it's okay to be gay everyone was talking about it. It was national event. I don't think i realized how much it meant to the community until i saw people watching the episode tv <\/a>on the edge moments that shaped our whole term. Sunday at nine on cnn,<\/a> at simply safe we build advanced security sensors <\/a>and cameras for your whole home, powered by 24\/7 professional monitoring and fast protect technology exclusively from simply safe for faster police response.<\/a> There's no safe like simply safe his outdated dmv has two forms of my id think <\/a>of all the places that can expose your inference lifelock <\/a>monitors millions of data points <\/a>for identity. There's a problem. We fix it, guaranteed the road ahead alexa senex <\/a>sika can help you keep living life with the ones you love. Ask your doctor about far sega today? for speaker can cause serious side effects, including ketoacidosis that you fatal dehydration, urinary tract,<\/a> or genital yeast infections <\/a>and low blood sugar. A rare lifethreatening bacterial infection in the skin apparently him could occur, stopped taking for sega and call your doctor right away at the symptoms of this infection and allergic reaction or ketoacidosis <\/a>everywhere these days. And so the questions. Do you have to be on the meds for forever? how can i keep the muscle and loads of fans little weight come back? that's why we build new glp1 companion <\/a>with muscle defense.<\/a> It's your personal guide to smarter glp1 weight loss <\/a>us now available at noon. Com. If anyone knows, halloween is all about black and michael's has all the record we made mattress. Rematches firm i sleep firms upgrade your sleep self,<\/a> learn how to get a type of edic for $1 per month through 2024 and a $300 instant gift that match, that mattress firm sleep <\/a>at night we've always love taking care of <\/a>our home. But last year, grandpa here broke his arm. We realized somehow maintenance jobs aren't worth the risk. That's when we call lee filter to protect our gutters filters,<\/a> patented filter technology <\/a>keeps debris out of your gutters for good. They gave us a free inspection and we had the system installed that week. Mile and regret is not calling him sooner. Now can focus on what we really enjoyed. Join millions of satisfied homeowne let's say you're deep in a show or a game or the game. On a train, at home, at work. Okay, maybe not at work. Point is at xfinity. We're constantly engineering new ways to get the entertainment you love to you faster and easier than ever. That's what i do. Is that love island? i'm bill weir <\/a>on the california coast <\/a>and this is cnn people are dying in north carolina. They're dying all over those 56 states are dying. And they are getting no help from our federal government because they have no money, because their money has been spent on people that should not be in our country donald trump,<\/a> there is wrong disaster relief money <\/a><\/a>is separate from the money that goes to migrants needs. And both the white house and fema <\/a>have now responded to that wildly spreading false claim. Now that aid is being provided to help victims of the hurricane and there's not being siphoned away from other purposes. But some of trump's own former white house <\/a>aides are now saying that when he was in office, he initially refused to help blue states <\/a>with disaster relief, joining us now in our fifth seat <\/a>is cnn's chief climate correspondent,<\/a> bill weir. Bill, first of all, let's start with the fact here that we are are talking about these incredibly destructive storms. And they are affecting large swaths of the country. Red states,<\/a> blue states <\/a>rather than talking about that, donald trump is trying to make this a political issue. But what is the reality for americans at this moment? well, this story is really interesting, is there's new information we had covered his ambivalence around hurricane maria <\/a>is response in puerto rico,<\/a> there were eight inspector general <\/a>reports about that particular one. But this is a an official former official named mark harvey,<\/a> who was in their resilience part <\/a>of the national security council <\/a>and had to literally, he says, show donald trump precinct <\/a>by precinct vote tallies from orange county <\/a>to prove there were more trump supporters. There than in iowa. He said that they deserved wildfire. Let me just read the quote. He said we went as far as far as looking at how many votes he got in those impacted areas to show him these are people who voted for you and then on the other side of that, ron desantis <\/a>writes in his autobiography that after hurricane michael <\/a>hit the panhandle, he said to donald trump, these are your people so instead of giving 75% federal coverage for the disaster, let's give them 100% and he did. And that was a difference of maybe 300 million <\/a>depending on sort of favoritism, president has discretion on the percentage based on usually the size of the disaster in the end, donald trump did approve dozens of disasters in california more than any other state. But this shows his transactional impulse, right? every, every thing is is about how do i play this to my advantage and what it does is it trickles down this conspiracy to now you have the red cross and fema <\/a>fighting these theories that you're only going to get $750 and the rest of the money went to ukraine. This is in the middle of a disaster. The disaster is happening right now now and people are trying to pick their lives. It just seems very cynical. And one thing that i think gives some credence is that he said in public back in april 2020,<\/a> on twitter, he said, which is i guess what we hold it back. He said why should we give any covid relief money <\/a>to blue states, right? he said he put that out there in a kind of just saying kind of way, but it's of a piece with the way he's approached all of public life and to your point earlier, it's not a discussion for donald trump about uniting america.<\/a> It's consistently us versus them and his team. And then he will protect and take care of <\/a>his people. And that's part of the promise as if you join his team, you will get taken care of. It's also a reminder of why this system of governance exists where there are civil servants who are nonpolitical, who literally look at how do you help people? how do you make sure that the money gets worse needed to go and that system needs to be maintained and protected i mean, madison, this is a bridge too far. I mean, it's trump just going he always goes a little, a little too far, but is this too far? i feel like disaster relief should never be political. I don't care whether it's a democrat or republican. We have to look at each individual situation and make sure that we provide the funds necessary to give the relief needed to these people. We see people stranded out there and we see people struggling. We see moms on facebook posting like, please help are running out of baby formula.<\/a> My neighbor has no oxygen. I mean this is a true disaster and what's going on now, obviously, what goes on with the wildfires but to say that this is the only time ever in history that any politician, republican or democrat, has politicized something like this. Difference beings sometimes trump says things in front of everybody that other politicians do behind closed doors.<\/a> And i think that's the frustration that so many people across the country have with government, with politicians, with congress. I mean in ohio for example, many people, not very far from where i'm from in east palestine,<\/a> ohio, very, very frustrated that it took president biden over a year to calm and they begged him i do think that the difference here is that trump is just straight up lying. Well, there was like here's, here are the governor's. These are the governors of the affected states. Here's what they're saying. It's been superbly getting getting assistance and we're asking for everything would i'm incredibly appreciate it well, do rapid.<\/a> Response, in the cooperation from the medical team eva response <\/a>was quick from the federal government. We got what we need. He offered that if there's another things that we need just to call him directly these are republican governors who have every reason in the world to want calm harris to lose. They're not big, biden fans, and they are just telling the truth. There, just saying that america's government is responding to an american crisis. The way that it always have. But donald trump is lying and the problem with it is not just now but now it's terrible. People are suffering, made people more afraid than they need to be. They might be more confusing. They need to be. The problem is, this gets this poison, gets to the system. So now you are, you're creating, it's like termites in the foundation actually, when you consider there were 23 separate billion dollars other disasters last year. So far 2020 this year. And if you go to look for the list, the servers down because that that is held in asheville, north carolina. It's been taken out by this hurricane. So even deanne criswell <\/a>and brock long,<\/a> a former fema administrators, would agree we're not in a position where fema is gonna make you whole again, the calvary is not common because there's so many disasters going at the same time, but it's about communities trusting each other <\/a>and building trust before this down out of money, before the end <\/a>of the hurricane season <\/a>which does happen does happen. It does happen. I was appropriate and live right. And that's why there was some talk of congress coming back to do exactly that. I mean, the thing though about this storm, now, the second deadliest storm in some decades second only to katrina, is that when we're trying to understand who is responsible for the deaths, i mean, help us out here, bill. I mean, it seems to me part of what happened here was that places that don't get this kind of weather. We're getting this kind of weather and just were not ready for it. There was a big flood and asheville <\/a>in 1960, i think this one was so much worse. It's just, we don't live in our grandparents planet <\/a>anymore. The water cycles <\/a>are just way more violent. A flash floods <\/a>are flash year <\/a>because there's heat trapping, pollution warmer planet moves more water and much more unpredictable ways. So we lack the imagination to think about the kind of wildfire we saw <\/a>in maui. Are these kinds of inland hurricanes. There's a new term called, it's the brown ocean <\/a>effect because the dirt was so moist from the rain before helene hits the created almost like ocean conditions <\/a>to keep the hurricane alive on land.<\/a> And so this is something leaders need to be educating the public about to brace for and prepare for not say it's not happening in the first place. And then transactional respond to this got messed on sunday. But here's what trump said about climate change <\/a>in mind. You the storm had come, had devastated parts of the country and he said this do you ever notice this was such a big deal,<\/a> the environmental stuff. I haven't heard the environmental stuff mentioned. And six months i was saying the other night, what the hell <\/a>happened to the environment? no, but think about this i haven't heard mike <\/a>i ever heard they don't talk about the environment anymore you know why mike, you say don't talk about it now? no, it's one of the great scams of all done. You know why they don't talk about it. Because people are buying it anymore. Jd vance echo this, not the debate as well. And he said, if you believe that climate change <\/a>is caused by carbon in the air, right? the caveat there i think it's deeply significant because climate science <\/a>is proven more real and sincere than tobacco causing cancer, right? that's by the consensus of scientists. And now by the lived experiences of people, the people who actually understand this more deeply in their pocketbooks farmers <\/a>right? and what they are, the fact that most people in urban centers are disconnected from our suit food supplies.<\/a> These are the threats of the future, right? this focus on individual people are where they're from, as opposed to something that everybody on this planet has to deal with. Bill is somebody who spends siri your days and nights talking about the you environment when you hear trump say that, i mean, what do you think it's just so disrespectful to folks who do think about it, the farmers supply chain experts,<\/a> insurance executives were going broke because you can't cover this much disaster at once. It's just silly. So much of the world has just moved on from the debate over whether it's even happening it just takes a special level of votes but say it's not happening now in the face of all of this, maybe it's a reflection of the press that trump consumes, but he's not hearing about the incident and that's the case with the voters as well. But the but the other thing is that we do hear less about it during campaign season <\/a>because it ranks low among voters their concerns, voters are much more likely to tell you that they put inflation and the cost of living and jobs rate <\/a>higher than climate the way came with that demographic difference. If you look at the segment that will be the majority population <\/a>voting population 45 and under they rank climate much higher its and their top three, they have grown up with this understanding, voters don't, i mean, i'm waiting for the day, excuse me, abby, one pollster says do you know that your health, wealth, and happiness depends on a certain temperature range <\/a>on planet earth,<\/a> i think that's such a great point because i think we ask, when we ask voters like climate, it seems almost esoteric starving panel.<\/a> And i do think that it's its ranks low for a lot of people, but then at the same time, that's different from trump and vance.<\/a> Basically suggesting that it does not matter at all and that there does not need to be a grown up like a government response <\/a>to what people or people were not able to get insurance for the houses. That's an economic impact of climate, which is just beginning to happen. Also, you have all the other talk about work, wealth, and health, all impacted all these things to go along with climate like asthma air pollution,<\/a> other stuff. So i do think the political class, we don't do a great job of breaking the two syllables climate apart and showing how it hits everybody in their pocketbooks. But people are aware and i think the only thing that i think awful at jd vance did was when he was talking about america and what's wrong with it, he would always say it was because energy prices <\/a>are too high and that we have too many immigrants as if we are producing more energy, both clean and dirty than any country in the world. And so he jd vance lied about the lies that he lied about and the climate is just one of them. And there were solutions to this, right? the paris climate accord <\/a>is something the entire global community <\/a>got behind largely led by the united states to have its shaped in a way that was helpful for the united states. And trump just pulled out of that. So this idea of an entire generation having been raised past voting age,<\/a> now participating, they see the reality in daytoday impacts of this in a way that i think trump and a lot of boomers still see it as an esoteric matter. I do think it's very, very difficult for so many people across the country though, to watch the people who continue to lobby and talk about how much this matters, how important but this is, they fly around on their private jets. They continue to until many ways support pushing back. I know you don't put a lot of people do i'd like to fly around on a private jet, but they continue to push lot of manufacturing over to china where they don't have environmental controls. The worst polluters in the world. And so it's very, very difficult, i think for them to put a gras on the importance of it when the people explaining like this raised, well, okay. Yeah, that's an important issue, but if you're not even having the conversation, you can't hold china accountable <\/a>for its greenhouse gas emissions.<\/a> A bill weir, thank you. Nice motion for us to have you at the table tonight.<\/a> Everyone else? he tied for us coming up next. Her husband bragged about overturning roe versus wade <\/a>and now 32 days before the election belonging to trump says that he is wrong in pretty surprising video publicly what people say and turns out campbell enough money. I could just shut up but back tears i can carve saturday. It's seven trouble losing weight and keeping same discover the power of weekold pounds and some lost over 46 pounds we go and i'm keeping the weight off. We go if, you lose weight and keep it off i'm reducing my risk. 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There is no room for compromise when it comes i'm to this essential, right, that all women possess from birth individual freedom what does my body? my choice really mean it disagrees with that, and the former president says that he decided to stay out of it as much as he could. And xi could write whatever she wanted. We spoke about it and i said you have to write what you believe. I'm not going to tell you what to do. You have to write what you will if she's very beloved. People love our former first lady. I can tell you that, but i said you have to stick with your heart. I've said that to everybody. You have to go with your heart what is going on here okay, so here's a tweet from the students for life president kristen hawkins,<\/a> an october surprises <\/a>supposed to hurt your opponent, not your friends. Ties, trump, write that down yeah, this has been i think, very tough week on the issue for president trump.<\/a> I think he's in a very, very weird position in a difficult spot right now. Obviously, i think his lasting legacy in so many ways in the republican party lies and those supreme court <\/a>picks not just on this issue, but on many issues. He got this picks that'll be able to impact the country for generations potentially to come. And so i think the prolife movement really rallied around him because of the overturning of roe v. Wade. And what he was able to do in terms of saving preborn lives. However not just this week, but the past few months, there has been a lot of disagreement within the prolife movement and i'm seeing this play out right now. Post the vp debate <\/a>on tuesday which they don't feel like he's been that ally that he once was they don't feel like they agree with what jd vance said on tuesday. Meanwhile, i'm talking to other republicans as specifically a lot of women that are in counties that are swing counties <\/a>in ohio and other states across the country that are saying they really loved what jd vance had to say, they love someone softening the tone on the issue in saying, listen, we haven't been great on the issue, and so it's really interesting to see the two sides of the republican party really at play here on this issue. However, i think it's, it's definitely interesting when it's his wife or whether you can even what melania trump is in a nick in many ways. And that's part of the reason why they're releasing the he's videos this dramatic videos is to feed into that. But the idea that first of all, trump is even softening on abortion. I think a lot of people would question that. I think a lot of people also question melania trump suddenly coming out of the woodworks and revealing this right it's sort of part of their having it every which way it kind of seems i can't help but think of her own famous words, meloni is, or at least her jackets, which is i really don't care. Do you because she didn't have any influence these prochoice views of hers didn't matter in trump's first term. Why would we expect that they would matter? another trump term? i think it's a very cynical play at the timing for getting back some suburban white women voters <\/a>who were very skeptical of what jd vance and donald <\/a>trump have done when it comes to women's health care and jd <\/a>vance, what he tried to couch in terms of the debate about should be providing for health care and support <\/a>of children after they're born goes against his entire voting record,<\/a> but the irony to me here is that this is a moment where you see many husbands, wives, men, and women coming together, so many men speaking about the experiences of their family and their desire to have a family being <\/a>impacted active negatively by the overturning of roe by the draconian laws in different states. Yet we're seeing these two people on completely different page. I don't think this is coming from the campaign that a lot of people saying, hey, i think they put her out there. Melania trump typically does what melania trump wants to do. And as trump said, i told her speak from the heart, say what you want to say. I think if it were up to the campaign and she would've been on the other side. I don't think that's from the been talking about. She she writes in her book that she cautioned trump about the child separation thing,<\/a> tried to encourage him to end it. She says, allegedly, this has to stop the former first lady <\/a>told her husband emphasizing the trauma it caused to these families describing approaching her husbanand, whose hardline stanc on immigration <\/a>was wellknown and trump writes, i am sympathetic to all who wish to find a better life in this country as an immigrant myself, i intimately understand the necessary if arduous process of legally becoming an american now, again, to ramesh's point where was that energy when this was actually putting publicly and there's also audio of her defending the conditions that these children were being kept in at the time that was released by a former friend of hers, but i don't know what's going on here. Is really weird, but i will say this. We have never seen this happen before in american politics,<\/a> where the former first lady <\/a>or the spouse of a presidential candidate running for right? 30 days before it legend <\/a>comes out with a book that says, screw you and everything is running out in your party. If that's what's happening. Now, we can pretend that there's some kind of 19 dimensional chess happening.<\/a> And what this really is the trump campaign <\/a>i just don't think they get along i do not get along. I don't think they agree on much and i think she used because i haven't i'm going to do it my way moment <\/a>and by the way, when you when you have the light coming down and you're coming out of the shadows.<\/a> But i'm think she's trying to send a signal to america that she is not down with none of this earth are right there with him, right? is there's a difference prince <\/a>between a motive that is related to trump's political future and there are other motives including financial motives. She is selling a book and cnn <\/a>reported today that when we requested an interview with her the her publicist or publisher <\/a>came back and said, that'll be $250,000, please. What i'm asking, you did walk it said that she said she didn't actually know about the request you can have me for half of that i want you 50 be sit here every respect the hustle, i guess right. Like i just selling books is selling bucks and sometimes you ride provocative things to sell a book he also talked about being a champion for abortion rights and like so, in what way are you helping be the vanguard for this? are you actually getting your husband to check if he's ultimately the one with the power in this situation. Don't do not definitely wants to do. Nobody can influence trump doing thing <\/a>except maybe trump. So but i think that we are overthinking as i've been watching all day long, people imagining like i just think melania trump is trying to sell a book. She's trying to make her own money. She's trying to come out from the shadows and i don't think i think she is literally giving the middle finger to the campaign into the port. I think very reflective of couples across the country. There's many people well that are republican, democrat spouses <\/a>that don't agree on this issue specifically as well as many others. And i think that's another example the irony is the reality of that really the majority of the american <\/a>public across party partisan lies for since we've had roe v. Wade has supported some level and degree <\/a>of abortion rights enforcement systems,<\/a> more than 80%. So the idea it is actually a very bipartisan consensus issue.<\/a> The extremes of what the prolife movement has done is what has changed the dynamic in american extremes on both sides madison,<\/a> her life onto something to a degree, there are a lot of split household.<\/a> We've seen that before in politics, and i guarantee you will see it again in this cycle. 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Disaster doesn't mean defeat and this is cnn that is when donald trump said that he would gladly released his medical records, but 44 days have passed and they remain nowhere to be seen. Back at the table here. One thing to note obviously, donald trump is now the oldest candidates ever and just a couple of months ago he took a bullet, grazed his ear we haven't heard anything about that. He said that he would release these medical records why not? he's planning to do it at the same time, he releases his health care <\/a>plan that is coming from now. And if record snow,<\/a> but look, we these questions were debated about biden and his health was and is a legitimate issue. So is trump's trump's will be the oldest if he wins, the oldest person to take the oath of office and it's of course, it's a reasonable thing that voters should be aware of. But i do think from my madison, if this was an issue for biden, why is it not an issue? i think there's a huge difference between the way they present themselves, between the stamina that they have. I mean, you can say that you want to see his records and because of his age and i understand that. I don't think that's necessarily wrong as he's running for president and it states, however, to say that biden and trump <\/a>are the same, and that the stamina is the same or was the same, is just simply not logic think trump is going about this. I had a better stamina than people perceptions about health and also trump was the one i mean, he, he said he would do it. He said he has nothing to hide. I mean, look, we typically with trump, i mean, even when he was president, there wasn't a ton of information released, but there are some first of all, in addition to his age he had an actual medical issue, never released the doctor's report. They had ronny jackson <\/a>come out and say, i saw him and he's fine, which is not enough. Even in past assassination of times, he's been hospitalized for covid in the past. His medical records and said he had to high cholesterol. That he was overweight. I mean, don't the american <\/a>people deserve he wouldn't be the first person running for office to be overweight. A bit silly to that we're going to release his medical records because these overweight i do agree with that can be released. I don't think just the things that we know about him, right? of course. I'm not passing judgment on it is just what we know. Well, i think there's also a lot of democrats out there, which i think is very disgusting that continued to claim that he wasn't actually shot and that there was no bullet in his ear and that's pretty disturbing you see that circling online daily that this is a problem because you're chief things that go together. One is you have the oldest candidate and he doesn't seem healthy we also have the youngest vp who's so far, he wrote a phony biography, serve well in the military, started up to rich people and it has been incentive for a yearandahalf. So i'm worried that you're going to wind up not with trump, but with jd vance as president. And jd vance, i think is not yet tested a yearandahalf in the senate, people say what the obama, what he did four years in said he wasn't ready so i think it's the combination of unqualified vanity pick <\/a>on the vp side <\/a>and a very unhealthy presidential pick that puts the country in a lot of jeopardy if we wind up with these guys way,<\/a> it's also the idea of transparency, right? this is something that has been consistent over presidential cycles, regardless of what people may say online, it's something thing <\/a>that has been considered a right for the american <\/a>public to know. And it became an issue in the campaign for between obama and john mccain. The idea of who is a heartbeat away from the presidency. And that was a lot, a lot of that was also because of john mccain's choice of sarah palin <\/a>i don't like what vance was saying it raises the question in the minds of voters is this person who you picked to be your vp going to end up being actually a heartbeat away. And donald trump could be one of those miraculous people because we do know some of these folks who can drink coke all day and have mcdonald's served, mcdonald's to athletes and be fine. Then tell us, right. Let us know that we can take that piece of worrying anxiety off the table about our presidency. Maybe at this point, we should just take the guesswork out of it and congress should just say no, running for president we should see your medical records if you're running for vice president, we should see your medical records. 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Colin van help <\/a>today, they can help you get started with your idea calling <\/a>well now 800 100020 we are back and it's time for the news nightcap.<\/a> You each have 30 seconds to say your piece now euro europe <\/a>while you don't no longer have to wonder, if bruce springsteen,<\/a> who he supports to lead this american land. He is no longer dancing in the dark <\/a>at a diner in free freehold, not on the streets. Affiliate, unfortunately he endorsed kamala harris saying that he thinks that she'll probably be tougher than the rest. Well, i guess well that a surprise i read the guy the guy who loved obama it does point to this idea of like you said, van, broader coalition, the idea of bruce springsteen,<\/a> of being welcomed medina is when some others aren't, doesn't hurt, it doesn't hurt. But the union worker,<\/a> right. Welcoming the white been worker. He was in a diner with flannel on.<\/a> So i love it a knew all those songs. Well done. Well done. All right. Ramesh so new york city mayor <\/a>eric adams is under federal indictment for corruption. And he has been getting some words of solidarity from his federal fellow federal donald trump. I would not be shocked if before too long adams rescinds his endorsement of harris and maybe even tries to cast his electoral vote <\/a>for trump. Crazier things have happened i don't think you can rule that out at all. 2024 bingo card <\/a>i mean, there's a lot there's a lot go.<\/a> Trump has given pardons to corrupt democrats. Well also republicans had been backing him up on immigration. They've been backing him up on this idea. He's been targeted. So there's a lot of kind of kumbaya moments happening there at madison silver lining <\/a>in the tragedy in north carolina <\/a>right now, we continue to see community rallying <\/a>around each other. We continue to see americans coming together from all sides of the political spectrum to do what's right and support these victims we saw today more aerial attacks my name, people coming into volunteer from across the country of wonka flew in the 300 starlink units donated by elon musk.<\/a> And i'm happy he's not a fan of view on argue if sarlin, great technology. I have nothing against or like i just have a problem with him it's spinning conspiracy theory,<\/a> tweets on and there's a lot of relief, obviously yet to come. But the silver lining, of course, is seeing this happen and it's always a positive thing and actually, i mean, i think one of the things about these disasters is that you see just regular people who've given their entire life to helping other people, showing up almost as if they were the government and providing this kind of relief. It's amazing to see alongside the government who is also showing up alongside the government generosity <\/a>that we underestimate in the american <\/a>public? yes. All right. Van so mine is a true hot chick all day long. This white republican congressperson <\/a>getting been getting beat up because he dressed up like michael jackson <\/a>20 years ago who cares who cares if the worst thing happening in black america at 20 years ago, somebody dressed up like michael jackson, dr. King's dream has been realized. Okay. We have 1,000 more problems to worry about. It's not like it. If you dress up like black people to demean black people, slavery, coombs stop this guy literally just dressed up like a slick as some michael jackson <\/a>super cell listen,<\/a> guys, i love you.<\/a> Can we leave this dude alone and worry about some folks were actually trying to hurt black people, not michael jackson fan,<\/a> like he's running for congress","publisher":{"@type":"Organization","name":"archive.org","logo":{"@type":"ImageObject","width":"800","height":"600","url":"\/\/ia800603.us.archive.org\/3\/items\/CNNW_20241004_020000_CNN_NewsNight_With_Abby_Phillip\/CNNW_20241004_020000_CNN_NewsNight_With_Abby_Phillip.thumbs\/CNNW_20241004_020000_CNN_NewsNight_With_Abby_Phillip_000001.jpg"}},"autauthor":{"@type":"Organization"},"author":{"sameAs":"archive.org","name":"archive.org"}}],"coverageEndTime":"20241004T12:35:10+00:00"}

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