To anyone born on u. S. Soil. Were asking our viewers to in on this latest debate. Birthright. S. End citizenship. 2027488000 if ou say no, the number is 20277488001. Special line for americans whose parents were born. Gn hey can call in at 2027488002. Us at journal at cspan. Org. We begin this morning with a of birthright citizenship that if you are born youre a u. S. Citizen regardless of the legal status of your parents. Was renewed in this country ever since a of a position plan by trump where he says irthright citizenship becomes magnet. St heres a tweet from Republican Former louisiana governor bobbie jindal. Says and of course ted texas he senator there also with a Statement Last night michael immediate veried absolutely want to end birthright citizenship. Trump talked about it interview. Whole thing with anchor babies and the concept i dont think youre right about that. Want me quote it if you to quote it. Here youre an american. But many lawyers say thats of the way it is in terms this. What happens is theyre in mexico and theyre going to have for a and theyre here come of days and they have the have to to s going be tested. Egardless, when people are illegally in the country they have to go. The good ones and there are work sof good ones will its expedited, but they come legally. We have a country. You need borders and you need law. I said that for decades. Trump hats donald earlier this week on the oriley actor talking about birthright citizenship using the term babies. A controversial term. They noted when a reporter asked night at one of his events if he knew how offensive it, he was found incredulous. He says onald trump and jeb bush squaring off at two different events happening at the same time during their president ial around the country of the were getting your thoughts this morning. Hould the u. S. End birthright citizenship. Well start this morning with joe from georgia on the line for should not ink we end birthright citizenship. This joe . Caller john, i strongly love for 35 years. Youre doing a great job. Strongly support ted cruz and think hell be the best president in history. Cant ve him and we we have to stop somewhere. I think theted cruz people support it. I think theyre on the side of i nd i dont think think it i think cruzs be tion will help him elected for president. And im so fired up im having a at night, leeping john. Host thats joe. We want to hear from our viewers. Lines for those who think we it and those who think we shouldnt and first generation americans. John is up next also believes we should end birthright citizenship. John, good morning. Caller good morning. John here. Host go ahead. Aller i think we should end birthrights because those are rules. Ittle rules and big rules whats the difference. A little if i rob bank versus a big bank . Stop. Got to host would this need a revision of the 14th amendment to make this happen . Read the 14th amendment the ur viewers noting its first section of the 14th amendment. Nationalizedborn or in the United States are citizens of the United States state wherein they reside. Caller i would give them the were of paper saying they citizens and if there are move es i would make them out and then if they want to come back legally then thats fine. I dont have a problem with that. Host john in stafford, virginia. On our ate playing out facebook page, facebook. Com cspan. You can be conducted in a poll there. Currently those saying no are ahead of those saying yes in the responses so far. Leave a comment with your response including whose comment n no. , my no is a qualified i favor it if it could be rewarded. Nd sharon below that says and tracy hail hall above that ays host you can participate in the give us a call. On that line for first generation americans don is henderson, rom nevada. Good morning. You. R good morning to host your thoughts, sir, on citizenship. Ight caller it is they ought to amendment to exclude illegals r ininclude to the effect that any children illegals cannot be citizens. Hey have to go through the procedure just like everybody else, stand in line and go back stand in ountry and citizenship. Ly for as one of your emails showed, abusing our are system to the hilt. Host let me ask you, those who not in favor of doing away with birthright citizenship say make children responsible for the sins of their parents. That o you make of argument . Caller i think that parents legally came ens to this country, went through the process, i think the become citizens naturalized or by birth. Ost youre a first generation american. How did your parents come to this country . Came in through ellis island and applied for citizenship. Even speak english to it took them four years pass the test in english and we became naturalized as i was under a certain age to a naturalized citizen. There is one thing that you got country, tand in this we cannot make illegals legal. Are two definitive words. Illegal and legal. Our government doesnt illegal. D the word host out in henderson, nevada. Homestead, next in pennsylvania. You dont believe the u. S. Should do away with birthright citizenship. Why is that . I absolutely dont agree with trump and the other four gentlemen that are running for president. We are supposed to be a country that welcomes people and i am of the more that imgrants whether theyve come ultimatelyr not help our economy. It makes it better and stronger that we are world accepting of everyone and i want to make one other point. Republicans have spent the last 15 years redistricting that it helps them succeed in the congresses and itself very well in the senate and in the house of representatives. Rid of all t to get the people that dont either ook like them or act like them or talk like them so that they 49 reelect epublican president this next time and its not going to happen. F we dont im talking generally now if we dont change the way we are viewing to haveng, we are going incredible class problems in ultimately. Y were going to have the haves the havenots at war with each other. We can see it in the economy and policies. Oppression against women, everything. This donald trump thing has got so wound up and everybody is buying not everybody but a lot of people are buying into his rhetoric. Its inflammatory. Its insensitive and its also disgusting. Homestead,s mandy in pennsylvania. She mentioned four republicans got on this issue. There are more than that. Republican out antiimmigrant race. Editorial board rights, as r. Trump swells his diminished opponents are following. Everal have shuffled on to the santorum and Chris Christie. Birthright repeal citizenship as does Governor Jindal of louisiana, a birthright citizen himself. Read more of their thoughts its the times. Go to betty for those who it. K we should do away with caller good morning, cspan and thank you for taking my call. I believe that we should end birthright citizenship. Last callery to the hat you had i dont know what planet or rock shes sleeping under but donald trump who is brought person who has this thing to the forefront. Llegal immigration is destroying this country. The 14th amendment really came because africanamericans were involuntarily brought to and they had children and the 14th amendment those childrenen the right it live in this country. Had nothing to do with illegals across the rio grande coming here to suck all the life of this country. Their whole idea is not to assimilate. Are here for the soul purpose of taking back something never lost. So, yes, absolutely we should went we are the nly civilized country left on the planet thats doing this stupid stuff. Grip. Ally need to get a theres no way we can keep these people in this country. About how much money it will cost to send them back them. Ort just like they came they can leave. Illegally. Re i dont understand what it is when you e dont get hear the word illegal. Illegal. Is just that, they need to be deported back to their country and we should be who is goingdecide to come into this country. Were not getting the best and brightest, we are getting foreign es of these mostly latin country. Here. The diversity majority of the illegals come from mexico. Ago you said just a minute that u. S. Is the only country the world. His in heres actually some stats on that. Several countries in the western birthright se citizenship. Heres a map from center of immigration studies. 30 of the worlds 194 countries rant automatic birthright citizenship to children born to advanced iens of economies United States and that are two countries rant automatic birthright citizenship. John theory is a researcher on cis and appeared on this program testified before the Judiciary Committee on birthright citizenship. His numbers, every year 350 to 400,000 children are immigrants in the United States. Said,t this another way he as many as one out of ten births immigrant legal mother. That from cis. Your calls. Bob is up next. Cincinnati, ohio. O you think the United States should did away with birthright citizenship . Caller i dont think so. As the previous caller was it would cost way too much. I believe 200 to 300 billion and secondly, it bugs me that the licans are so for constitution and for the traditional way that the resounded in the 17 to reds and when it comes their zeen in a tpoeb big stuff they fall and falter. They t understand why cant just take what we were stick with it. D host bob in terms of the cost some oure talking about, liberal columnists noting that witha policy is doing away birthright citizenship would cost republicans politically. Here is a column and the the ines of the piece, did epublicans giveaway the election by raising birthright citizenship. Message of lear spanish voters. Its possible to order youre immigrant while simultaneously saying we should uild more walls and double the patrol. The border want to read more on that in s go to jacob waiting fort george in maryland, a first generation immigrant to the United States. Jacob, your thoughts on this idea of ending birthright citizenship. For having me. Ou i think that this whole debate issue ping on the real and thats that here in the theres a person who could be deported because of parents illegal activity and its immorally reprehensible give them citizenship and citizenship to the child because of their status to be deported. There shouldnt be any problem citizenship for the children, but having citizenship given to people who are believe to stay to have a in the nterest United States and people here. Ost talk about your immigration story. Caller so i think that got put wrong. My grandmother is german. He was in the air force. Visa andover here on a my father owes his citizenship here. Fact that she came an ously my father was american, but i think they both it should be legal. Because the person is saying hey, im here and i want to be i t of the United States and want to be active in the United States. But two individuals or one comes here ho if i get deported, with them being pulled out. Or potentially us being get thrown in jail. Its not the way we should be going. Host thats jacob in maryland morning. As we said much of this debate over birthright citizenship on the 14th amend which eads thats part of section one of amendment to the u. S. Constitution. For more on the legal background and history we turn now to turlly frequent guest on this program. Good morning and thanks for joining us. To ask you, how clear read . Is language i just amendment is clear as to birthright citizenship, thats doubt. Iously in what is a question is whether language that you just read of subject to the jurisdiction thereof is a qualifier. That is some people view that birthright ng that citizenship is a constitutional right until the constitution is amended. Others look at that and catch phrase, subject to the thereof meaning that its something that congress can change and not foreigners whoer are illegal in terms of the status and there is some support sides. The irony on all this is that when the 14th amendment was were different views at that time. Michiganacob howard of he was oneuggest and of the key drafters this language did not extend to what foreigners. To as lymon trumbull seemed to reflect that. The the great irony this debate very en with us since its c conception. On big issue to follow up what mr. Trump has said, if pu want to end birthright do it . Hip, how do you there is a school of thought ith some academics who believe that congress can do it, they that clauseaw using to say that excludes illegal imgrants. If that were to fail, if the courts were to reject that, then would have to go and amend the 14th amendment. Two options. The host you talked a little bit about the history there. Issue come up in 1868 . One of our previous callers was through the history of the post civil war era. To why it e us back was happening then . Yeah, the biggest reason is really the dredge scott decision by the Supreme Court. That was the decision as many know where the Supreme Court said that slaves could not considered citizens. Led after the civil war, so its efforts to deal with just the citizenship status black codes which were limitations being placed on the 14th es and so amendment was a response to that but other issues of equality. And so it was passed. Fascinating the supreme actually suggest that it agrees with this birthright on of citizenship. N 1898 in a case of chinese immigrants the Supreme Court uggested that it viewed the language as covering everybody under birthright citizenship. Aning that said, this is not issue. The Supreme Court has rendered very clear and decisive opinions on. So there is still a question as to whether congress could step and try to do this. What would happen is that congress would pass the law. Would be very likely immediately challenged and it would be reviewed. And if it failed then congress nd the country would certainly know that they would have to mend the constitution to make any such change. Host you talked about the process of amending such change. Do you think it could be possible in todays political environment . You know, i have it say that it could very well pass. I generally dont support constitutional amendments worried that start to hen people mess with the constitution, it works extremely well. Leery. Ve to be quite but on the other hand, there is obviously a very significant support, particularly on things like birthright in this country and weve seen it in other countries this immigration issue has into power in es europe. I think we can have a civil debate about this. United states is in the minority. There are good arguments on both sides. Countries do not recognize birthright citizenship. And canada tates have very liberal views of citizenship and that indeed does reflect our history as a land of immigrants. But i dont think that its necessarily true that people are dont migrant if they upport birthright sin citizenship. I think we need to have we debatee a good and civil about it. In the become a citizen United States is the coin of the realm as to the definition and the identity of your country. Those people who support have ight scitizenship power history and arguments a nationem that we are of immigrants ask thats why we re in the minority and those opposing have equally good arguments and theyre going on sixties. The 18 host jonathan turlly, always your insight and analysis. Thank you. Viewers re taking our thoughts on this debate. Beverly is up next and waiting on that line ina for those who say no to ending citizenship. Go ahead, beverly. Ive been listening to the spoke and all the others. Was the amendment abolition of slavery and thats they invoked this civil rights amendment. I didnt read anything in it that talked about illegals. It ou make an amendment and says what it says and it is what it is. Aese people have just as much right to stay here as George Washington and the others who it have a right. Immigrants. What will this do to cruz . This is born here. Bigotry. Act of 19 support deporting all Illegal Immigrants back to their home country and 14 support immigrants to l remain in the United States to work for a limited time. Results at those gallops website. But were taking your call for 15 minutes or so here on the washington journal. Up next in new york. Birthright citizenship does not stem from the 14th amendment. A ruling from justice brennan. He created this problem, not the 14th amendment. Are using the wrong term. Wrong immigrant is the term. Nationals reign living illegally in the United States. Wife of the the British Ambassador to the United States gives birth in the hospital, that child is a subject of the british crown. Across theman sneaks border and gives birth in the san diego hospital, and her is a citizen . Work . Oes that ost randy is up next in millington, michigan. Good morning. You od morning and thank for taking my call. Id like to start off behind the scenes for bringing us this great program. Great. S the nation the reason i believe we shouldnt end birthright, when the 14th amendment arlier, what jumped out at me understand what mr. Trump was saying with his interview with mr. Oriley while it hasnt been and it says under the jurisdiction, so if ou come over from mexico or canada or wherever and have a baby and go right understand w mr. Trump was saying with his needs to be challengedback, you that baby is ause a citizen because shes not staying under the jurisdiction of any of our states. I can understand where he would challenge that in court by using that phrase because coming over that baby is aby and a citizen because shes not then goinger the right back to mexico youre not under our jurisdiction. Host with a challenge in the courts would you rather the this or would you Want Congress to step in and youre this distinction talking about . Well, i think the first step we have to take is a logical one then goingts. Right back to amendment, tional thats the last resort. Yes, we can always try the constitution al on cspan saturday live coverage candidates ial continues. Sunday evening at 6 30 Wisconsin Governor Scott Walker hall meeting in New Hampshire and book tv is live at 11 30 a. M. And Panel Discussions on civil rights, history and bio