We begin with a new debate in the 2020 campaign and the issue of democratic socialism, something that Bernie Sanders talked about in his speech at George Washington university and in a recent cnn interview. We want to ask you this question , specifically, would you be willing to pay more taxes for Free Education and health care . Here are the numbers. 202 7488000 if you say yes. 202 7488001 if you say no. You can also join us on social media at cspan wj on twitter [video clip] twitter. J on we want to get your calls and comments in a minute, but to frame the argument there is this the new york magazine. Why does bernie so fervently cling to the issue of democratic socialism. Host thats this morning from new yorker magazine. Getting to your calls in a moment, but first, following his speech at George Washington university, which is by the way available at our website, senator sanders appeared on cnn and was asked this question. [video clip] onlye United States is the major country on earth not to guarantee health care to people as a right. In many countries in europe, germany from one, you go to college and the cost of college is zero. I think in finland they actually pay you to go to college. In most countries around the world, the level of income and wealth inequality, which in the United States today is worse than at any time since the 1920s, with three families owning more wealth than the bottom half of america, that level of income inequality is much less than it is right here in the United States. As you know, taxes and those countries are much higher than they are in the United States. I suspect a lot of people in this country would be delighted to pay more in taxes if they had comprehensive health care as a human right. I live 50 miles away from the canadian border. You go to the Doctor Anytime you want, you dont take out your wallet, you have heart surgery, heart transplant, come out of the hospital and it costs you nothing. Kids in many countries around the world go to public colleges and universities tuition free. Wages in many cases are higher. There is a tradeoff, but at the end of the day i think most people would believe they would their kidsff when have Educational Opportunities without outofpocket expenses, when they have health care as a human right. When they have affordable housing, decent retirement security. I think that most americans will understand that is a good deal. Lets take a look at the tax rate in two of those scandinavian nations, beginning sweden, where the overall tax rate is at 52 and the average pretax salary for a swede is after taxes 22,410. Denmark, the tax rate is 56 , with the average pretax salary at just over 64,000 per year and the average posttax salary when everything is said and done, a country of about 5 million, just over 28,000. And then there is this from cnbc, Elizabeth Warren has been proposing a tax on wealthier americans. Survey, mosta americans support a tax on wealth above 50 million, most millionaires do. They wouldaid support raising taxes on that income over 50 million per year. So, tell us what you think. We will begin with jim, first, in grinnell, iowa. You say no, you dont support this idea. Why . Well, i think first of all the government takes more money from taxpayers. I think the money will still be wasted in a lot of different ways. It might be dispersed to other areas in the government. The United States is the richest country in the world. Throughout the years the government has not been able to control its spending, so we are deeply in debt and i think it will continue to go in that spiral. Thing is about the students, Free Education . Think maybe they should have to serve in the military for at least two years. Give them another different type of education. I work around the college. Things that the students should learn besides books. I think the military would be a good option for them. You know . I think thats fair. Whether that would happen, i dont know. I just think that the government wastes so much money and cannot control its spending. So i think its not a good idea to have Free Education and health care. Host thank you for making your point, we will stop you there. A short while ago the president was tweeting last night, again taking aim at the media, followingon a program 30 hours with George Stephanopoulos in iowa and on air force one, from the white house, the interview aired tonight on the abc network with the president saying last night that anything goes with our corrupt news media today, they will do or say whatever it takes without even the slightest thought of consequence. These are true cowards and without doubt the enemy of the. Ople specifically attacking the New York Times for a story about cybersecurity and russia. Lets go to len, joining us from woodmere, new york. Saying yes you would pay more, delighted to pay more taxes. Answer that. First, let me congratulate you for being part of the enemy of the people. That is a distinction in this day and age. Host why do you say we are the enemy of the people . Caller im saying donald trump includes you and that. Host i see, ok. Caller not me. [laughter] you know, lets start with insulin. This country is listening to people talking about not being able to afford their insulin. That is because we are not using the buying power of the 300 Million People to negotiate lower the prices of prescription drugs. Thats a drug that has been around for a long time. I could probably learn how to produce it and im an accountant. Aboutople are worried standing in line or something. We have an intergenerational problem, people making very jobs, or not having good we Start Building the schools to send those people to school and learn how to take care of things in a robotics age. We need to start looking at, you know, taking care of everybody across the board. That is being, you know, stored, imagine all the money that is being held in Bank Accounts and portfolios being like grain piled on one side of the road so high that you cant see the top. The other side needing to be fed and these people needing to be able to plan for themselves. This is what unmitigated capitalism produced. All the democratic socialism is is capitalism with guard rails. Saying that you can do so much, but then you have to start sharing. Because the next generation, people complain about not getting something for not working. How about the children and grandchildren of walmart . I dont think they have to tie their own chill tie their own shoes in the morning, they have dollars and maids to take care of everything. Host thank you for the call. This is from jodey making the following point in host daniel shaft in commentary magazine wrote about the idea of sweden and democratic socialism. It is time to reveal the cost of maintaining nordic welfarism in the form of higher taxes for the middle class families that produce americas wealth. Host that is from daniel shaft, at commentary magazine. Emily is next, san francisco. You say no to the idea of higher taxes for education and health care. Why . Caller yes, i want to preface my comment, as this is my time, is that you were talking about the russian interference . Of 2015, 2016,er Hillary Clinton said that because she intervened with the put an election in 2013, he wanted to get back to her. She started this whole problem. You can find that in wikipedia under russian interference in the 2016 election. Host stay on the line, this is the other part of the tweet from President Trump, since you brought it up, aimed specifically at the New York Times, do you believe that the failing New York Times just did a report stating that there are increased Cyber Attacks on russia, an act of treason by a paper so desperate for any story even if its bad for our country. Please go ahead with the idea of democratic socialism, taxes, and your view. That socialismve is terrible. For the young people, the first thing that they do they will names, get ridir of their guns and see the they are putting the military places where they want because you have given government all the power. Senior citizens will not have the medicare that they need because you are going to combine it for everyone in the country. People that dont even work. Democrats say they are going to do that. That because you give half of your day at least to the people you work for, they should be paying. There is plenty of money. They should be paying. Giving other people the power over each individual as they did in russia, if you dont work, you dont get medical health. I think its important that young people understand that if we become socialistic because , which isfree College Going to cost trillions of dollars and you know who we owe that money to . China. They gave us money to pay for our country to run and thats dangerous for us. Please start to think, giving away the freedoms that we have, the wonderful people that tried to save our and President Trumps wonderful message, his speech in europe, told telling the people that one of the best speeches we are doing very well. If everyone would understand that we are free and i god never sent angels down to earth. Politicians are human beings and as he go further into the future, you will find that everything that has been promised to you has changed. Host emily, thank you for the call from san francisco. This tweet from jeff host so, what is socialism . Last poll released released last october identified and compared different views of socialism. We will put the numbers on the screen. Socialism is equality, 23 said that. Back in 1949 only 12 said that. On the issue of government ownership, more control. 17 in 2018, 30 4 in 1949. Free social services, 10 in 28 been, 2 in 1949. That is from a Gallup Survey that was released in october of last year looking at the idea of what is socialism. Next up is eric, from erie, pennsylvania, you say yes . Caller i would be fine with it in america, but its never going to happen and its not going to matter for me because im moving to europe next year. Use of variety of reasons, but the economic arrangement of most of the social democracies in europe is far more opportunity filled than what most americans are up against in terms of the cost of their education versus income that they can earn from having gotten it. Host where are you moving, but european country . Guest focused on germany right now, but i remain flexible based on my ability to gain entry and my criteria on being able to do it. Im not averse to declaring for asylum. My reason would be religious freedom. Recognize itsto need for sense sensible policy regarding the pluralism of the religious population. Host thank you for the call from pennsylvania. Steve, florida, good morning to you. Good morning. Thank you for giving me a chance. You know, everyone works. I think that there are some people that may have illnesses or you know, mental illness, but basically everybody works. There is really no such thing as getting everything for free. Right now there are a lot of people that are working to bring jobs because their Health Care Costs are 20 of their monthly income. With such a sharp, sharp rise from what it used to be. That, you have a 5,000 or 6,000 deductible. We would need to pay into the system a long time before you start to actually seeing health care. And i believe that under Bernie Sanders plan we would actually receive health care. Thing aboutsay one the press being the enemy of the people, ok . You watch donald trump speak, you hear the words coming out of his mouth. His tweets are altered and just from there you can make a decision as to what hes all know, the things desecrates. Uses and anyway, so, thank you for letting me speak. Host thank you, appreciate the call. Inside of time magazine. Unitingng in revolt, against beijing as the demonstrations continue this weekend in hong kong, the former commonwealth from Great Britain amid concerns about being extradited in hong kong, those who are being charged and extradited into china. Joe, joining us from north charleston, South Carolina, good morning to you, joe. Caller happy fathers day, hope your children have a wonderful day. Host thank you. Caller no, i dont agree with tax increases to support health care and Free Health Care or Free Education. A couple of things here. One thing i think, high schools, Guidance Counselors are doing a great disservice to our children by convincing them that Everybody Needs to go to college. We need to have a different idea among high schools. There is going to be a great demand for trades coming up in the next 10 years. Im talking about especially electricians, technology, a lot of that can be handled at the Technical School level. Here in South Carolina we have what is called a life scholarship and if you qualify for the scholarship you can go to school for free as long as you maintain a b average. The lottery helps to pay for that, by the way. Everybody doesnt need to go to college. There are very high paying jobs than somehat pay more careers you get from a college education. Im talking about careers that lead you into a trade that has Health Care Plans and has a good 401 k plan and people are making six figures pulling wire cable and its good work. I grew up in the navy shipyard. Its not bad to not go to college. The lady talking about socialism a little while ago, if we end up in a social state, theres going to be a generation of people down the road that grows up in it and if it fails like venezuela, they wont know how to drag themselves out from it. They will not know how to recover. Do go for higher taxes, education and health care and a democrat gets in office this should be a bipartisan effort here, at some point they are going to undo the corporations. Theres only one way to pay for it. Theres nothing free. Resultats done, it will in an increase in goods and services to every american here. , their corporations first deal is they have to answer to their shareholders. They have to maintain a profit margin to stay healthy. You know this, this is the way things are. We will be double taxed. We will have an increase in goods and services and the taxes we have to pay for. Again, happy fathers day, thats my comments. Host thanks, good to hear from you again. This from mylan. Host you can send us a tweet at or on wj cspanwj facebook, facebook. Com cspan. We welcome our radio listeners on 90. 1 fm and serious xm, channel 124, which carries this Program Every sunday morning. Encase you missed it, the debate lineup scheduled for later this nbc and msnbc, two months of debates, 10 president ial candidates, five moderators, this is what it will look like on day one, cory booker, boolean castro, john gabbard,chelsea governor jay inslee, amy klobuchar, better or work, congressman tim ryan, and senator Elizabeth Warren. On the second night it will be senator michael bennet, former Vice President joe biden, mayor pete to judge, senator, harris , senatorpete buttigieg , and Kamala Harris those debates will be airing on the nbc networks, the first in a series of democratic president ial debates continuing through the summer, cnn in july, abc in september. Paul is joining us from sebring, florida, saying no to the idea of higher taxes for Free Education and health care. Why . All, freell, first of , we know that approximately 27 of american in college. Ctually however, we want the rest of the people to pay for this education . The is never addressed by local media. Why would all americans pay extra taxes for the Free Education for individuals that only represent 27 48 of our as in health care, im retired military 28 years. I do get basically Free Health Care and i do agree that americans, that would be a birthright. I have no problem with raising taxes were health care. But on education . 27 ,never talk about the 28 again that they want the rest of us to pay for. So, i appreciate you and thank you very much. This past week, senator sanders delivering a speech at George Washington university where he outlined his idea of democratic socialism. You can follow all of our coverage on our website, cspan. Org and when you see the search at the top of the screen you can type in specifically what you want, we have more than 200 and 50,000 hours of coverage in the video library. This is from this past week, senator sanders. [video clip] ourselves as part of one nation, one community, and one society regardless of race, gender, religion, Sexual Orientation or country of origin. [applause] this quintessentially american idea is literally emblazoned on our coins. E pluribus unum, from the many, one. And i should tell you, it is enshrined in the motto of our campaign for the presidency, not me us. [applause] let me be clear. I do understand that i and other progressives will face a massive attacks from those who attempt to use the word socialism is a slur. But i should also tell you that i have been overcoming these attacks for decades and i am not the only one. That from senator Bernie Sanders and his speech at George Washington university this past week. This from john smith ho