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CSPAN QA Pat Buchanan July 14, 2024

They havent written memoirs yet but i think they are going to. In terms of minute memoirs, this is probably the last of someone and knew it from the beginning. What did you put in this book had never talked about before . Also at the end of it, where you put in that quote by john osborn, it looked so he said e had seen shelley an me, the first day, Inauguration Day in 1969, looking up at the portico, all e had seen how it breaks e said it almost your heart. All of this thats fresh and new. Is, really about what it was like as a young conservative in the nixon white to do battle for your beliefs and the opposition you face and the transition the was undergoing. Operated ixon sort of on holding the whole thing together until the watergate collapsed it. Mentioned sprio agnew, in the des moines speech, weve got it, before we go there, what role did it play and up to it . Nixon in his first years, toward the end of the first massive demonstrations and the moratorium were being Monument Grounds and it was quite clear time and news eek were saying, Richard Nixons presidency is in danger broken. I wrote the president a memo saying youve got to stand up going to have to explain to the country why we have to keep those kids over dying in ting and gave his d nixon famous great silent majority speech on november 3, 1969. It was a smashing triumph. 70 of the country backed him him but that night after the speech finished, the networks had proceeded to trash it. Three Major Networks and most americans got their news about the country and about the and the world from these three networks and nixon and halderman told me to write letters and telegrams. Time to take the on the networks directly, openly, at a high level way to do it is with a speech by the Vice President of the United States which i will it came back, a memo, photograph of it is in that book, where halderman wrote back, he has seen, go ahead. That means the president of the nited states has seen your memo, go ahead and start writing that speech. It for about three or four days. I was in touch with the Vice President. Drafts, hrough three which is not a great number, and called over to the oval office and there sat the president with his glasses on hich he never wore, coat and desk, tting there at the writing in phrases to this agnew murmured, this will tear the scab off those bastards, and i broke out broke out d he aughing and agnew went out to deliver that speech at some midwest gathering, a conference word, moines, and i got and the white house, where i worked, that abc was going to go live with it. And i was nervous, so i went up and went versity club swimming, and they called me from the pool and they said, and cbs are going live with it. And i said to myself, this is ither going to be a Great Success or a career ender. And agnew delivered that speech networks, and the reaction was sensational. Nationwide, telegrams, letters. The whole country stood with us and the sentiment about the networks and television that. Believer it, i drove out to Andrews Air Force ase at about 3 00 a. M. And got aboard air force 2. Agnew had invited me to ride cape canaveral, and he comes on the plane late and he comes over to me and gangbusters. It was just a phenomenal moment, nixons moment, i think great silent majority speech, agnews attack on the networks t des moines and the follow up attack on the Washington Post and New York Times in ontgomery, alabama, which i wrote with the Vice President , hat, i think, was the real making of the president , 1968 so much but the real making of the president. It, brian, atieve the end of that year, richard 68 approval and 19 disapproval. Astonishing. Heres a fellow who seven years efore was the biggest loser in american politics after he lost the governorship in california to pat brown. A little bit of that speech, the former vice 1969, int, november 13, des moines. [video clip] every american has a right to disagree with the president of the United States and to express publicly that disagreement. The president of the United States has a right to communicate directly with the elected him. [applause] and the people of this country have the right to make mind, and form their own opinions about a president ial address without having the president s words and characterized through critics beforeof they can even be digested. I remember that that happened right around dinner hour or 6 00 or 7 00 at night. I think it was around 7 00 or at night. Lieve, maybe 7 00 at night. Thats correct. And agnew, what hes talking is the fundamental that and it exists today, the president of the United States, in those days, a number of how andad custody what would be seen of the president of the United States nd how it would be presented because they controlled all three networks. I would say 12 people would make this decision, and so in effect betweenct communication the president and the people, right in the ding middle of it. They woulde lens and present it as they saw fit and n excerpts as they saw fit and we almost couldnt live with this. The president was constantly on and calling for letters to the editors and telegrams. Nonsense. Is is you were seen by 50 million people. The network commenting on it was 50 million people. We cant turn this around with we ers to the editor, so elevated that issue and the issue exists to this day and i was, that was the first strike. Why did they decide at the time to carry it live . Because they would never do this . Those days . Ell, i think because well, we put in a phrase at the end, whether what i say tonight heard by the American People doesnt depend on you or depend on me. Hear and e what you dont hear and that was exactly right and it was a challenge. As i recall in there, we had a quote from frank abc, had written this horrible thing or said this horrible thing on television 1968, the campaign of which just astonished me saying his ability tong his people [inaudible] we had quotes and things like that, which were a challenge in th pins of defiance of him. I think they put it on the air trashed gnew was being as an individual who had no sensitivity and didnt understand the first amendment. They thought that the public would say, my goodness, nixon people want to censure the newsened restrict the first amendment. American people loved it. It was the real making of Vice President agnew who, before you know in 1968, had een regarded by the press as something of a bufoon. What impact did it have on you when you found out he was cash money in envelopes. He had a press conference. Were these reports and umors that he was being investigated by a friend of mine andaltimore, u. S. Attorney, andnt up and watched agnew, ziggler, the press secretary, seemed to undercut agnew, so i going on . , al, whats why are we not standing by the Vice President . Pat. Aid, come on over, and i went into his office. The chiefofstaff, the corner that halderman had. Taking envelopes in the basement and i was shattered by this. Was a good friend of mine. I traveled with him in 1970. I liked him. Buddies. He had real courage. Terrific just a fellow. Had a lot of fun with him. You could play tricks on the guy he enjoyed it. Nd i think, i was really agonized and disappointed with agnew. I remember writing him a note the day he resigned. To him ou ever talk after that . I didnt talk about what happened and why. The goods on had nolo contender. Henever agnew came to down, once every year or two, he would call a number of agnews close in a quiet meeting, bryce would be there and the buchanan, earl, everybody would have a couple of and talk about great days. There are a lot of different and im u touch on going to jump around but before you hat, im going to ask to do something i dont think you have ever done. I want you to talk about your brothers and sisters because of them. Eight and you mention a couple, you crick, and nry and know baby cannon, but how old are they, how many are still alive, where do you fit in the what do they do. My two oldest brothers, bill, he was about 45, so my brother hank died a couple of years ago. Now of nine dest and my brother crick, the one who served in vietnam, hes got hes a dentist and hes living out in maryland, county, below him, in my sister kathleen. Who worked with bill kristol for a while and with Vice President quayle. Hass got three kids now and lost a kid. Shes and then below her is jack. Ther john edward buchanan, coachs asketball, and he had been an business and a executive. Bay, who is re is general mcarthur who ran my campaign. A tough customer. She, incidentally, she was high became a and she mormon, she was very high on 2012, and when i was over, i think she was got out oned by it and of politics and is doing very well. Where does she live . In oakn t oakton, virgini, and then my brother, brian, he went down to bedford, got out of once he ot out of medical school, bedford, virginia, which is down between roanoke, lynchburg and up in the hills there. That famous world war ii memorial, you know, where all of to e guys from bedford come ashore on the beach and were just wiped out. Tom, there is my brother partner lives ng on gerald ford drive. John mccain went to school. Thats where they are and what hey are doing but we all grew up in d. C. D. C. , t i was born in my mother used to work at the hospital, born and side, and the d. C. Went to school at gonzaga high school. The street. Buchanan family field is the name of the football field. Went to georgetown. On the fiveyear plan. I remember you getting kicked out of georgetown . I got this story in the book, the plane withrd agnew, somebody got aboard after me and i looked over and it was viola at the time, father joe had expelled me from Georgetown University after an police whenwith the i was the senior in october of 1959. Dug up by jack ndersons deputy, brit hume, when i was in the white house writing speeches about how these ids, we got to crack down on student disorders, and brit hume called me up and said, pat, i something here. It says you were arrested and this is what you were charged it, 2,000 bond and all of this, what do you have to say for ourself after your fight with the police . I said, well, brit, i was a head they brought out the sticks. One of my better lines. When you have no defense. Dad, what were they like . My father was very much an autocrat. Autocratic. His three political heroes were joe mccarthy, general mcarthur Francisco Franco of spain, catholic who finished off the communists. In spain, he was a very devout catholic. Gonzaga before i did. He came off out of a broken family. And the r had left him jesuits came by and got him when trinity. Ted from holy it was an irish neighborhood in those days and they brought him to gonzaga, and so when he raised nine kids and my you know, these towns you saw, that trump was i used to go up after the water. One of eight kids. My cousins were telling my sister dave because they get dave, there is nothing up here in the valley but trump signs. [laughter] and thats where trump won pennsylvania. N out there, take that southweste corner of pennsylvania. The eastern part of ohio. P there at that steel mill in west virginia. Thats where he won the election. There is a quote in your book nixon, i have never seen an extremist like you who of humor. E did he say that . Bush 10 weeksd hw before the New Hampshire primary in 1972. My sister and i went up to of the e the president United States in the New Hampshire primary, and when we hadthere, polls showed bush about 65 to 70 . And david duke at six in the polls. E went through a really tough campaign against bush up there. Stayed up there. Gaptantly and we closed the from 50 or something points, losed it to a gap of 17 15 points. 5137, Something Like that. Victory. Tremendous a moral victory and the press played it up huge and we went to did almost as well but then we had super tuesday and there were eight primaries and i got wiped out in every single one. Jersey, ixon was in new so i had lost 10 in a row. So i called nixon in new jersey, i said, mr. , and not bad . , 1010, e said, buchanan, youre the only extremist i know what sense of humor. He said, come on up, bring helley and your secret service detail. So it was a very pleasant visit him. D with with the old man, that was just died. Ears before he just before he died, i called and i in new jersey said, we havent talked, he said, pat, im coming down to d. C. He would come down. It was a Washington Hotel on that circle. Over toward washington circle. Exactly. Would come down there, and he was really so alert and verything, and you sit down, what is he doing . What is he commenting . Who is up, who is down . And it was like the first too him. I met he was so interested, his whole life in politics and personalities, and issues he was consumed by this and ive 1966 t of it from january when i met him till about the primary, i was the principle one in there for three, four, five hours a day in is office and the white house, it was halderman and eric man ut the old man needed that constantly exploring this issue, hat issue what do you think, calling you back in, but its a feature i didnt, you know, my the vice ith president , when he was vice resident, but yeah, when nixon was Vice President but i dont know whether bob who was was in there hen like that. I noticed that was a him. Cteristic of you were sitting across from him. In the book you had a threehour interviewchat with him before you hired him back in 1966. Right. You . W old were it was november december, i had just turned 27. What was that like . Interview ot a hard because he was asking me about issues. You were doing what at the time . Writer. An editorial i got a lucky break, six weeks out of journalism school, i went and applied for an opening there, and the editorial editor some ou can write editorials until we higher the replacement for the guy that left and i was really working so that they kept me in and they moved the other editorial writer out. So we had two editorial writers at the globe democrat. The post dispatch down the or seven. About six so i was writing immediately on statewide, local, things i was unaware of. Initially unaware of, foreign everything. Estic, and i had been doing this for 1 2 years, and writing other pieces as well. So president nixon would ask me various things in this threehour meeting. Settled on it, and i passed the oral exam with flying colours. Said after the three hours, he said i would like to hire you for one year. Heres the reason. I want you to help write the to write once a month. Get that, do some press work do the other things. Office. Tside my and he said, one year, because im going to go out and campaign 1966. L the republicans in and if we dont get back some of losses weve gotten in the goldwater campaign, the nomination wont anything. So nixon predicted we were going andin 40 seats in the house whatever the senate, and the returns came in, we won 47 in the house. This was november, 1966. White on our way to the house. His en did you see him in howiest moment, for you and did he react when he was angry . You know, he never yelled at me. He never yelled at me. Angry, he would yell generically at the wall. Of getned get some some people to do these things . Cant recall him really enraged at, i dont know why. In the book, i dont think i have recollections i dont ave great recollections of him being enraged but i will say this. And i d for reagan, remember reagan coming into the cabinet room and i dont know looked at me and said, exploded. E and he exploded, when he came out of gorbachev. G with nick, who was a friend of mine, reaganthe ambassador and came out, he was waving around human events which had denounced reagan had this, what i consider a healthy temper. A storm, ploded like and by the time we are coming at night, t plane and we were laughing the fact dolan, we were laughing and celebrating fact that we didnt get any deal. Eagan came back and he was in wonderful spirits. Jimmy ure determined, stewart and i, telling story, but president nixon kept it inside himself and he brooded. Mean, when he would call you at night and he was angry at omething the voice was low, i want you to do this, do this, do that, and go after them, and he things get to him in a way that i dont think president reagan did. I think there was a certain healthy thing of sort of it outr and then getting of the system. And thats the real difference two. En the during the next watergate, on, the bob haldeman, mcgruder, chuck went to prison. They testified. You testified, ive got a little piece of video from your testimony. You say that you had your brother sit behind you. Right. Why . My brother crick. I had watched all the others up they all had these lawyers sitting beside them. Seeknow, and as soon as you that these guys have got a lawyer, hes got a problem. Done something, got some lawyer advising him, and i didnt believe i had done did need rong but i Somebody Just to be with me. So i called my brother crick up i was going to testify, or the day before and i said can you come over to atergate write live with charlie and well go to the white house and get breakfast and then youre going to head up hearing g Committee Room where john f. Kennedy announced for president. He came up, i said, you dont need to sit at the table with me to sit right behind me and in the book i think ive got a picture with my rother right behind me there and thats what he did and when they would take a break he would and then to the room we would come back out to the hearing, in and out. Your ah, you wanted brother there. I didnt need a lawyer. This video, im not sure if in your brother behind you this video that we have but lets run it and you can tell us you know who this person is. [video clip]. Mr. Chairman, because of the of our an character candidate, if one looks back over the political history of only one ry, there is other man other than richard ixon, who has been his partys nominee for president or Vice President five times. Thats franklin roosevelt. In those days you couldnt a camera in front of you, so we couldnt see

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