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CSPAN Washington Journal August 19, 1120

Another week of public hearings. You can join the conversation by phone or send us a comment on facebook and twitter. Washington journal is next. Is next. Host it is the washington for november 19 and that is the room where the third day of public impeachment inquiry hearings will take place. Democrats and republicans will question Lieutenant General Alexander Vindman and anna for williams. Y will hear from t volker and timorous and tim morrison. You can watch those hearings in their entirety on cspan 3. We invite you to listen on the cspan radio app. Up until 9 00, we will take your calls on the impeachment hearings and the impact you think the hearings are having overall. For democrats. Republicans. For if you want to post on twitter, you can do so at cspanwj and you can post on our facebook. Age at facebook. Com cspan a lot will take place during the course of the morning and the afternoon and here to talk about the players involved and why they are being invited to testify is john mcardle. Witnesses testifying this week including three individuals who listened on that july 25 phone call between President Trump and president zelensky at the heart of the impeachment inquiry. A lot of moving parts, we understand. Want to start by giving background on the folks who are testifying. First on the 9 00 a. M. Panel is Jennifer Williams, a special advisor for europe and russia to Vice President mike pence. She served as a Foreign Service officer in the united kingdom, lebanon, and jamaica and one of those who listened on the july 25 phone call. She will be seated alongside. Lexander of inman vindman he is an army lt. Col. Deployed to iraq and awarded a purple heart. He also listened on the july 25 phone call and some more background, he emigrated to the u. S. When he was 3 emigrated from the ukraine and is fluent ukrainian. Both of those folks will be on the 2 30 panel. Republican requested witnesses approved by adam schiff, including kurt volker along with rick perry. And and three amigos. He gave the first testimony when he testified behind closed doors on october 3. He is one of the republican requested witnesses alongside tim morrison who served as a top ukraine official on the National Security council. Latesigned his position in october. One of the 3 republican requested witnesses. We will be looking all morning for tweets and comments from the president s twitter page, members of the House Intelligence Committee, but they started yesterday trying to set the tone for today and frame what folks will hear. Here is one tweet, an interview with eric swalwell, a democratic member of the House Intelligence Committee from his interview with the hill. Here is what he had to say. [video clip] what we will hear this week are people who listen to the phone call, three people who listened to the phone call and people who had direct conversations with President Trump and those are the attacks we heard last week. Their attacks were you did not have anyone who heard the phone call or anyone who talked to President Trump, the American People will hear both of those pieces of evidence this week. Host 2 one more from mark meadows, not a member of the Intelligence Committee, but as viewers know, very much involved in the republican messaging and response often seen at breaks talking to members of the media. This was his tweet yesterday. He said so much in the impeachment effort has involved around unelected bureaucrats airing policy grievances with the president. America elected President Trump, not those bureaucrats. If they disagree so strongly, they should get their names on the ballot. Mark meadows. We will tell you more about members of the committee and the president had to say throughout the show this morning. Host we will show you that first hour of the hearing on cspan until the house comes in at 10 00. You can switch over and watch the hearings in full on cspan 3. 7370001 for democrats, we start with richard, San Francisco california, what are you expecting from the round of hearings . Think the main events from wednesday of sans lynn, because is in a pickle he made light of congress and tried to amend that. Be ere is going to lets take a look at this. Here is kind of a megalomaniac authoritarian that is going to let people run around and do bidding on their own without his direction . Host do you think it is significant that two people who listen on the phone call will be giving testimony today . It is going to be him in the hot seat because he has either got to tell us he was taking orders from trump the that was the whole reason they goons thatand the were associates of giulianis and now sitting in jail. Host lets hear from bob, you are next. One more time from bob, hello . In maryland,at democrats line. You are on, go ahead. Caller good morning. I am ukrainian american and every a time when time you heard ukraine on the news, we were like the first time we heard about ukraine being an independent country and now it is exhausting to hear about it all the time and hear how it was taken advantage of again by our president and i think it is going to be very interesting today to hear firsthand testimony from someone who was on the call and has firsthand experience. I dont know that republicans will change their tune. All of them say it is secondhand or thirdhand information. Of us in the know about ukrainian and eastern politics, it will be important. It is not the ukraine, it is ukraine. Host for the people testifying today, have you changed your mind or your opinion on this process and did you learn anything from last week . I have been for impeachment anyway based on the information i had. If anything, it is making me more aware of taylors testimony about how the ukrainians were dying because they did not have the Financial Aid they needed. If anything, it made me more angry. Maxine ins hear from michigan, independent line. Bob, independent line, go ahead. City, hello . Son go ahead. Maxine from michigan, independent line. Cspan. Good morning, thank you for taking my call. Host you are on, go ahead. Caller are you there . This is maxine from michigan i want toichigan and comment on the impeachment inquiry. I watched it from the beginning and i taped it and rewatched it again and i failed to see where is the thief . There is nothing there. I dont know what they are looking for, but they are definitely not going to impeach this president. Now i hear they have a telephone conference or a telephone overheard in a restaurant. Now they are going to call the waiter to see what he heard. Host for everything you watched and watched again, what convinces you there is nothing there . Caller there is nothing there. You cannot put something that is not there. They keep accusing him of something he did not do. Host okay. Caller the woman they had, yovanovitch, that was an insult to womanhood. They ask her, what do you feel . It was horrible. Maxine giving her thoughts from last week, a whole new round of hearings for this week, stay close to cspan. Org for more information. This is the room, starts to get a little more lively leading up to that 9 00 start time. With more on todays events, here is john mcardle. Host 2 that last caller was talking about the telephone call, that coming from the testimony of david holmes, a relatively new name in the impeachment inquiry and the latest addition to the witness list, expanding from 8 witnesses to 9 witnesses. Here is the rollcall. Com right up. That david holmes, a political counselor to the u. S. Embassy in kiev who overheard Gordon Sondlands phone call with trump scheduled to testify on thursday alongside fiona hill , the former National Security counselor senior director will apparently have company when she testifies this week. Also yesterday after the Intelligence Committee announced that david holmes had been added to the witness list, adam schiff releasing the deposition from his testimony behind closed doors late last week, giving a link to his twitter page. This is some of the points of that deposition from the testimony that has gotten a lot of attention within the past 18 hours or so fromdavid holmes lmes deposition, i could hear the president s voice through an earpiece. This is the phone call at that restaurant. Of the president possible ways was loud and recognizable. I heard ambassador sondland greet the president and explain he was calling from kiev. I heard President Trump clarify ambassador sondland was in ukraine and he applied he was in. Kraine i heard President Trump asked, so he is going to do the investigation . Zelinski will do anything you ask him to do your even though i did not take notes, i have a clear recollection these statements were made. A little more from david holmes, this getting a lot of attention, another part of his deposition, he said after the phone call i took the opportunity to ask ambassador sondland for his candid impression of the president possible use on ukraine. I asked ambassador sondland if it was true the president ambassador sondland it was true he did not give a about ukraine. Ambassador sondland stated the president only clears about big stuff. I quoted there was big stuff going on in ukraine like a war with russia and ambassador sondland said he meant big stuff that benefits the president like the biden investigation mr. Giuliani was pushing. The deposition took place let late last week. We will hear more on thursday. Host a lot of ways you can follow along with todays activities. You can watch, you can watch at cspan. Org. If you download the radio app, you can listen. Our social media team will be tweeting out the highlights and information and if you go to our website at cspan. Org, we set aside a portion of the website that you can find all the information related to the impeachment inquiry. People starting to line up as they wait to enter the room, a room normally used by the ways and Means Committee, but the Intelligence Committee taking its place there. Thats hear from robert in pennsylvania, republican line, hello. Caller good morning and thank you very much for taking my call. I only have two things to say. Number one, democrats need to produce the whistleblower because with the technology they have today, they can block him out so the only people that can see him are the people in the hearing and if they do not produce him, they need to stop the inquiry immediately. Number 2 is i hope and pray the president of the United States pays a surprise visit to the impeachment inquiry and brings a special guest with him and that will be the end of the democrat inquiries. Host democrats line, south carolina, hello. Personally, you only need to follow the president s life record. He did not sign up for the draft. He doesnt answer subpoenas, he does not pay taxes. Who is he . Host as far as todays hearing, what are you hoping to learn . Caller i hope they come up with enough evidence to take these people into custody. Him and Lindsey Graham and the rest of them. Host do you think any of that has been produced . Caller absolutely. Host such as what . Caller the entire conversation of overhearing him making a private call from the phone call so the russians could listen in. Host host independent line froc in seattle, washington. Caller i have two issues. The first is trump needs to testify himself. We dont need no written statements. Gerald ford and bill clinton testified and the only reason bill clinton got impeached is he lied under oath. The second issue is the department of justice memo by barr, it is not in the a sittingon that president cannot be indicted, that is the conflict. The only reason trump is not indicted and looking to go to jail is because of this memo. Any attorney general can rescind that memo. Eulerats need to bring back. Host back to todays proceedings. If the president does not show, do you think the democrats do not have a case . Caller they should take it to the supreme court. Gerald ford was ordered to testify after he pardoned nixon. Bill clinton was ordered to testify, trump needs to testify under of, 13 thousands under oath. Host the president in a tweet earlier this week signified some interest in perhaps testifying via written memo. That is where we are today. As you heard john essay, two people to be interviewed this morning and later this afternoon , cspan 3 is how you can follow along. Lets hear from tom in florida. Host good morning caller good morning. I have two points to make. Cannot bedent impeached legally because under the defense act of 2018, he is mandated to withhold funds from ukraine until the president of the United States, not the fbi, the president of the United States is convinced there is no longer corruption in the ukraine. He cannot be impeached for withholding funds even if he did, and he did not. The lights are flickering in your house and you want to replace the internal box in your house, you call an electrician. Get is a replacement, can i away with not having to get a permit . The electrician says you should get a permit, so you have the electric box installed in your house. A few days later, the building you attempted to put an electric box in year house without getting a permit host security already getting ready for their role that will take place today. Seatingsome of the involved. Undoubtedly will fill up especially as 9 00 is the start time. E, you are next up. Caller what i believe will happen today is you will have credible witnesses that will corroborate what they have already said and you will have republicans on the committee and republicans outside of the committee attacking their character like they have done. I think it is a joke that jim jordan is even sitting on the committee inside there today. Host why is that . Caller him and mark meadows have been running to the white house, giving trump information of stuff that went on inside the first hearings, giving him inside information, so jim jordan should not even be sitting on the committee. Yesterdayn went on tv is alreadyly attacking the military general, a patriot to his country and ron johnson attacked him. Basically, republicans cannot defend the facts of what happened, so the only defense they have is what they are doing, attacking, attacking, denying, denying. Host that is ron in texas. 2027370001 for democrats. Republicans, 2027370002. Independents, 2026280205. If you want to tweet us, you can post at cspanwj. Our Facebook Page is available to you. Shane in california on our independent line and he is next. Hello. Caller good morning. Nice talking to you again. I just want to say it is obvious had the ukrainian investigate biden and there is no evidence that biden, hunter or joe did anything wrong. The fact that during Marie Yovanovitchs testimony on friday, he brought up everything and tried to deny her is just wrong. Host what do you think about the significance of having two people who listened on the phone call testify today . Caller the fact that the two people who listen on the phone call in their deposition said it is wrong, not right of a president of the United States to do that, that brings up facts that obviously there is something wrong there. Host that is shane in california. John mcardle joining us to give us information on todays events. Host 2 a couple callers back was talking about the president testifying and we heard more from the president had himself on that topic. It was during this program the president tweeted. Viewers will remember nancy pelosi saying President Trump could testify in writing. The president saying even though i did nothing wrong and dont like giving credibility to this no due process hoax, i like the idea and will in order to get congress focused again, strongly consider it. Plenty of reaction on capitol hill to the idea of the president testifying, even if it writing. One of those republican members who has been a face of the republican response stating according to roll call that it would be a heck no as far as weather or not whether or not he should testify. Trump would be lowering himself to adam schiffs level. From twitters yesterday from the democratic side of the aisle. Fromis don beyer, democrat virginia. His tweet is saying President Trump should testify. He should allow right white house aides to testify. He should turn over the documents that congress subpoenaed, he should end his illegal coverup. I am not holding my breath. One more from Chuck Schumer on the idea of President Trump testifying and he talked about it a little bit in his floor statement yesterday to open the day in senate. Chuck schumer tweeting if President Trump does not agree with what he has heard and has evidence he would like to present, he should come to the committee and testify and answer questions under oath. One more tweet from the president. This one came out on other after midnight. The president responding to fox news. The president writing at 12 15, nancy pelosi stated it is dangerous to let the Voters Decide trumps fate. In other words, she thinks i am going to win and does not want to take a chance. She wants to change our voting system. She is crazy. The president not quoting nancy pelosi directly, some of those words coming from a Dear Colleague letter nancy pelosi released and reported on fairly widely, including the hill newspaper, which has the quote. The hill writes in that letter sent to her democratic caucus, pelosi slapped down the argument trumps future should be decided through an election rather than impeachment. The is the quote from colleague letter. The facts are uncontested that the president abused his power for his own personal political benefit at the expense of our National Security interest.

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