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CSPAN Washington Journal August 20, 0724

And Commerce Committees on the Coronavirus Relief bill. At a 30, more with representative a member of the Small Business committee. Host this is a wash we will get your reaction to the house voting to remove several statues of confederate historical figures from the u. S. Capitol around. Some republicans joining the democrats in passing this legislation. Heres how you can let us know your thoughts on yesterdays action. If you support removing the statues, call us at 2027488000 , if you oppose it, 2027488001 is the number to call. If you want to text us, you can do so at 2027488003. You can post on twitter or facebook. A breakdown of what occurred yesterday saying a bipartisan vote gave the buildings architect 2 million in four months to complete the job of removing the statues in question braden it past the house by a 305113 vote. Inmainly targets 12 statues century hall the memorialized confederate leaders. While the removal while the chief justices bust does not remove the historical wrong the protect the institution of slavery, it expresses congresss recognition for the most notorious wrongs taken place in the chief chuck and the chief justices bust, dred scott versus sanford according to the bill. The bill appropriates 5 million for the job and if the remaining 3 million to the smithsonians and a central voice in decisions legislation to ask the architect to remove james paul clark, John Caldwell calhoun, whose last attribute words were the south, the poor south. Be sent backill individual state governments that provided them and direct management of their storage to the capital architect. We will first hear from Bennie Thompson to talk about the legislation. It is fitting and proper that those individuals who fought to keep men many of our ancestors enslaved should not placeo be recognized in a where people who do good expect to be recognized. This is not a way of erasing history, its a way of correcting history so that those people who see it will see it in a manner in which it 6 it is. At the end of this debate, i hope we all will be on the same page. This notion that in america, it color, it is not sex,race, it is not your but we have to stand for something. Our values should mean something is americans and so, this bill establishes what america stands for and we should not recognize in order just to say we are together. Traitors have a place, but not in a place of honor. Host you can see more of that at cspan. Org. David in atlanta, georgia, in support of the effort. You are first. Caller i do support the effort, the reason being is most of the statues exactly as the representative said were secessionists. And their fight for what they called the lost cause, they want the statues to stay in our capital and in our Public Places to show that they had some kind cause that they fought for their side of the war. Which is i guess from their point of view could be, but from a holistic point of view, they are totally wrong. I guess their leaders or the people who lead public, theyour shouldnt be in the same houses where some of our leaders that supported the republic had died. On the confederate side there were a lot of people who died and it was the unions unionists on our side who not only helped out the south after the war, but held very their soldiers after the war because the south couldnt afford it. Host david in atlanta, georgia. Eric is in rome, georgia. Also in support. Caller thank you. The main thing the statues need to be realized is they are statues of traitors and those who tried to the country. They are traitors. Hiller was not these people have never held office in the United States. They try to overthrow the government, they are cowards and traitors and the people who believe black people were 3 5 of a human being. In germany you cannot fly a swastika, hitlers not allowed. He was part of their government in their history. But they are not allowed. These need to be brought down and those need to be thrown away. Host thats eric in rome, georgia. Another thought from the house floor, this from Tom Mcclintock who also talks about the legislation been legislation. Not what this bill does. Rather it begins by removing the bust of roger tawney from the Supreme Court chamber. And that is true, he wrote the absolute worst decision ever rendered by the Supreme Court. But lets not forget he also presided over and joined in one of its better decisions. If we remove memorials to every person in this building whoever made a bad decision, this would be a very barren place indeed. Its only the bad things in our history that we can use to measure all of the good things in our history. This bill also moves the statues of confederate sympathizers sent to the capital by the states. While thats not our decision. That is the decision that has always belonged to the individual states and several of them are already making these decisions. We should let them. Other is chauncey breckinridge of kentucky who was honored not for his service to the confederacy, but rather for his service as Vice President of the United States and granted come we have had some absolutely terrible Vice President s through our history and im sure we will in the future. But if we are going to start down that road, we will be throwing out statues at the whim of a moment. Some of them include Jefferson Davis of mississippi, james george provided by mississippi. Lee hampton the third of South Carolina. Robert he leave virginia. It goes on from there. Rollcalls estate represented by the statue movie required to pay for their return. If the state doesnt want to pay to bring the statue back, the architect would move the statue to the estonian institution and that would go towards executing that process. About 5 million of for this project. Jim opposes this effort from mississippi. Caller hello. Im against this. People who dont like the statues and want to keep pulling the racist card. Need to know their history. If you look at the reason the south seceded from the north, you take the top five reasons they did it, if the same at what at is what our revolution was. If it was good enough for a revolution to fight tyranny, taxation without representation and all of that, then why wasnt it for the south . People that are doing this are not educated and i think its because the Education System. Or they are just really prejudice ideology. For those people who think this, whether to Confederate Flag or statue or this or that, if they andeve that this is wrong it was about slavery, but that there feeling about it. , ifoes back to that saying you dont remember your history you are doomed to repeat it in the future. Host thats jim and lets hear from our support line. Caller i support this action. As an african american, i am highly offended at people that wanted to keep my ancestors enslaved get a place of honor decades for a man who wanted justice for us, the right to vote, we do fight tooth and nail for Martin Luther king to a place of prominence on the mall. The problem with our country is we glorified the people who wanted to own my ancestors. In school it was something called a lost cause. And what that was was the ability for the south to own human beings which is unacceptable and our Education System has created an environment where people dont and itat this is harmful is hurtful and part patch awaits a system in our country where my people can be shot in the street by police, they can do it ever they want to us and nothing happens to them. Host giving us her thoughts. This poll took place on the 21st of july provided by Washington Post and abc. Americans of opposing removing the statues at the time dedicated to confederate generals. The poll showed 80 of republicans and 56 of independents removed opposed poster moving such monuments. Nearly 60 of white people opposed the removal. Three quarters of black supported removing statues of general robert e lee among other confederate generals. Facebook when asked, you can post their on facebook. Com cspan. Said shes opposed pretty where does it stop during a pandemic . What are they up to. Jim in buffalo says leave the statues. The values of times didnt coincide with todays values. These are great men who did great work. On to talk about black lives matter and let them come and tear them down. Carol supports removing the statues. Also texting us this morning from panama city florida sing the honor traitors. We should never honor trash like that. Put them in a museum. Thats where they belong. Los angeles, california, support line. I think the statue shouldve been removed a long time ago. They support slavery, and institution that you and i as human beings, African Americans like myself were sold like cattle. Especially the statue of Jefferson Davis. His memorial should be turned into the Civil Rights Museum to honor all those who fought and died in mississippi during the civil rights era. All those people who were murdered in mississippi fighting for civil rights. A memorial should be erected where his memorial stands. Civil rights park should be established on his estate. Host thats don in los angeles, california. Texas, here is greg. Caller good morning. , dont change nothing of what you do on the show. In. Le call as aact is in America Young kid coming up host go right ahead. Kidsr in america, black it becauseey did they didnt want us to be angry and mad at america. But you know what, when i grew up, i pledged allegiance to the flag. They said go back to africa and youre not american and it hurt so bad. They brought these neonazis over here and taught these america these American Kids to be racist. Caller as far as the host as far as the house decision to remove the statues, what do you think . Caller im glad its happening. And dont be so im talking about what i went , ugh this in this country host lets hear from cc in milford who opposes the movement. Caller good morning. I just have one question. If this is such a bad thing in the statues in your, why did you defend them when obama was in office for eight years . Host thats cc. A couple of thoughts on our facebook. Michael says he opposes for no other reason then its a huge waste of time and resources. I did not vote for my senders and representatives to earn 176,000 dollars a year on an issue that has no bearing or impact on the future of my country. The commissions sculptures and cost more to be honors and the same number of people to walk to the new statues without a care for them like they did. Douglas says he supports it and think statues and busts are meant to extol and exemplify positive virtues. These people arent worth honoring any more than benedict arnold. Poses sing where does it stop during a pandemic, what are they up to. Linda from Facebook Says for someone decides to remove something called confederate, one should understand what it means. York on ourw support line, go ahead. Caller good morning. Youre one of my favorite host on the show. Your reactions are just priceless. I would like to address the caller who called from the south who talked about comparing the confederate with the revolutionaries. There was no taxation without representation with confederates. Was toain reason preserve that institution. There is a reason why we should have take the statues down and that is because you lost, we one. Some just to let you know other things on capitol hill when it comes to the house and senate. One of those debates about the Coronavirus Police bill, the hill reports the tea party has weighed in with her thinking saying the debate over the size of that bill and the reopening of the same divisions within their Publican Party that spohn that tea party movement, Mitch Mcconnells upper reelection in kentucky, a state of tea party activism. Senator rand paul, a Tea Party Favorite taking an outspoken stand against another large federally package. The situation is eerily similar to 2008 when mcconnells upper reelection for his fifth senate term. Congress was under intense pressure to pass the expense of relief bill and a president ial election only weeks away. The story adds the lack of physical disk fiscal discipline in washington crystallizes the tea party that swept colleagues such as mike lee from utah and ted cruz into the senate in 2012. More backandforth of whats going on when it comes the republican side on the hill paid peggy in South Carolina poses the actions by the house. Caller i do. This is part of our history. We cant change history unfortunately. We need to be moving forward. I think the way people are destroying these monuments and tearing them down themselves is a disgrace. If they are going to remove them, they should be removed properly and put in a museum. I opposese it and i the way people are taking this into their own hands and talking about im sorry about what happened to the slaves, but thats history and part of our history, we cant change it, we need to be moving forward and educating our children and moving forward and being as one. We are one person, we are all gods children and there is so much going on now especially with this pandemic and we need to get our priorities and again im sorry what happened, but i do think taking this into their hands is wrong and destroying the property. Host frank in tulsa, oklahoma. Though ahead. Caller the only reason i called opposed is because you have a neutral. Because i dont care if they take the statues down or not. I just wanted to mention that the Supreme Court justice was of one that voted in favor dred scott and he was a democrat. Host but as far as the statues themselves, why are you neutral . Caller because i really dont care. Morenk christ is much important than any statue or any the one atis really the center of host host the whole issue. Host ok. Just to show you the headlines from the president s announcement yesterday telling morse of the federal assistance is going to be sent to cities to help with disruptions there, protest and the like, that the headline from the Washington Post. Also when it comes to legislative actions. That was awash washington times. The Washington Post reports this federal legislation working on capitol hill in response to that. Member ofnsored by a the House Armed Services committee and a marine corps veteran who served thinking that the saint apartment home at security and other agencies should not allow officers to wear camouflage, they need to stop the charade and but there ice uniforms back on. Referring to immigration officers and customers customs and border protection. That some of the reaction on capitol hill. Rachel in fort lauderdale, florida, support line. Go ahead. Caller yes good morning. Im from florida, but i grew up in atlanta. Im a White Conservative woman and i would like to say that i am in support of removing the statues. I think this should be taken down and put in a museum. My main concern growing up in atlanta, have to bring up stone mountain. The mountain that has the carving on the side, i hope that that doesnt get blasted. Put, weomehow we can can add to it, we can add Martin Luther king up there, we can add Abraham Lincoln, something to preserve that mountain. But as far as the statues yes. Host you said you support taking dow also taken to a museum. I think taking them down and putting them possibly in washington dc in a museum of some sort would be a good idea to maintain our history and yet they are not on the court square. They are not offending people and i do understand that it would offend africanamericans and i think it would definitely help our country to do that. Host if states in one take these back, they would be sent to the smithsonian. Is that a good decision . I would say put them anywhere other than where they are. My main concern is still mountain. Host rachel in fort lauderdale, florida who support this action. We have about seven or so minutes until our next guest, the house expected to come in at 9 00. You can make your comments about the decision by the house yesterday for the next couple of minutes at least. Supported00 if you the action. If you opposed, 2027488001. Theted topics it was president talking about issues when it comes to the Confederate Flag come he made those exchanges on an interview that took place this past week, here is his thinking on the Confederate Flag. This week you said black lives matter and the Confederate Flag are both issues of freedom of speech. But in the case of the Confederate Flag, there are a lot of people who say these were traders who split from this country, fought this country in large part to preserve slavery. It is the Confederate Flag offensive . Its depends on who you are talking about them when you were talking about. People are proud, they are talking about racism, the love the flag, it represents the south. They like the south. I say its freedom of many things, but its freedom of speech. So youre not offended by it . Im not offended either by black lives matter prayed thats freedom of speech. The holding of cancel culture we cant cancel her whole history. We cant forget that the north and south fought. We have to remember that otherwise we will end up fighting again. Host this is from scott in mississippi. Caller im calling in opposition to the removal of the statues for a couple of reasons. Is people needn to understand the statues represent the union itself. The statues were put up to welcome back the confederate soldiers in the confederacy and

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