Transcripts For CSPAN Washington Journal Justice Ruth Bader

CSPAN Washington Journal Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg 1933-2020 July 12, 2024

National journal and bloomberg about her legacy and what is next for the court and the nomination process. We will also take your phone calls and tweets, live on cspans washington journal. Ginsburg wasder illegal embodiment of the womens rights movement. Her years on the Supreme Court made her the liberal standardbearer for the Progressive Movement in the u. S. C died she died friday. Chief Justice John Roberts has called her a justice of historic stature and attributes are pouring in for the second woman to serve on the Supreme Court. Her powerful for dissents, as well as her strong opinions, ginsberg will be known not only as a powerful justice, but as a crusading lawyer whose work changed the United States. He will spend todays show remembering and talking about the legacy of Justice Ruth Bader ginsburg. We are going to open up regional lines. That means if you are in the eastern or central time zones. Ou will call 202 7488000 if you are in the mountain and pacific time zones we want to. Ear from you at 202 7488001 you can always text us at 202 7488003. And we are always reading on social media on twitter and on facebook. We will spend todays show talking about the life and legacy of Justice Ruth Bader ginsburg. Before we get into the conversation we want to bring you video of Justice Ginsburg speaking at Stanford University in 2017. Here is what she said. Can you encapsulate what it means to lead a Meaningful Life for you . Justice ginsburg to put it doing something outside of yourself. Students ilaw address now and then, if you are going to be a lawyer and just practice your profession, well, you have a skill, so you are very much like a plumber. If you want to be a true professional you will do something outside of yourself, inething to repair tears your community, something to make life a little better for people less fortunate than you. That is what i think the Meaningful Life is. For oneself, just but for ones community. That is wonderful, thank you. Do think that is the same as a purposeful life . Justice ginsburg yes, i think the purpose is what you aim for. How his family played a part in your own life and meaning in your life . Justice ginsburg it plays a very large part. It is one of the things that justice grew Justice Scalia and me together, because we care a lot about family. I saw a big change in life in the United States between the birth of my daughter in 1955 and 1965. In when my daughter started school i was one of a very few working moms. 10 years later there had been an enormous change. It wasnt at all unusual to have two other families by the middle 1960s. That made me realize it would be possible, for the first time in history, to move the law in the direction of what i call equal citizenship stature for men and women. Host joining us to talk about istice Ruth Bader Ginsburg jeffrey rosen, the president and ceo of the National Constitution center. Good morning. About yourittle bit memories of Justice Ginsburg. The National Constitution Center Awarded her its liberty metal this year. Talk to us about Justice Ginsburg and why the Constitution Center gave her the liberty metal. Best it is so moving to able to award Justice Ginsburg the metal. Hope cspan viewers will you representsbecause it a meaningful and inspiring tribute to the memory of this Great American hero. We assembled the justices and special friends to pay tribute to her. What came through in this remarkable tribute is, first, what came through in that clip. Im glad you chose that clip. Living for others, doing something outside of yourself, serving your community, serving the less fortunate. Every moment of this great womans life was devoted to what she called mastering unproductive emotions like anger, jealousy, fear so she could focus her energy on serving others. I need to convey to your listeners how remarkable it was knowing her. I was struck by how she was every minute of the day every minute completely tuned into what she was doing josie doing so she could conserve her energy. How she lived her life was such an inspiration and what she achieved, as you also said, was to become one of the most influential advocates for gender equality of our time. Also one of the most influential figures for constitutional change in american history. It really is rare as chief Justice Roberts said so well to have a justice of historic proportions. This is one of the most of our time. Eople advocate, time as an transformed the law so the courts came to recognize gender as skeptically as racial inequality. And on the Supreme Court also became not only a voice for consensus and collegiality, but liberalism. We noted in the video and others have noted thurgood marshall, the most important advocate for racial equality. Justice ginsburg is the most important advocate for gender equality in our time. It is remarkable for america and all of us had the privilege of knowing her. Host you had a book out with Justice Ginsburg earlier this year called conversations with rbg. Out of all of the conversations you had, what were some of the things that stood out that you could tell our viewers about . Guest first, it was the manner in which she had these conversations. You could hear it a little bit in the clip you just played. Often there would be a long pause before she answered. Longer than ordinary in a conversation. You had to sit calmly because you knew she was about to Say Something very special. Then she would come out with something extraordinarily original, fresh, and framed perfectly. Carefullyeach word chosen and exactly right. In ourry conversations we talked about what drew us together. I first met her as a young law u. S. D. C. Circuit d. C. E said it. Ircuit judge she connected to the music. And then one of the most ningful conversations [indiscernible] intimateinfant conversation we had ever had. I asked her about the sources of her empathy. She had this remarkable passion to focus on individual cases and plaintiffs as well as the personal lives of those who worked close to her. I said, where did that come from . She said, when i was six years old my sister died. My parents made me realize that is what made me attuned to others. [indiscernible] the combination of empathy and compassion, but also total focus and strategic vision. We all know about Justice Ginsburgs love of opera. Ourwhat else would you want viewers to know about the woman outside of the Supreme Court chambers . What else can you tell us about her life and personality when she didnt have the justice robes on . Guest the first thing about her personal life was her unbelievable marriage to marty ginsburg, love of her life. [indiscernible] just saw how unloved they were. He died of cancer a few years ago. She said, he just made me crack up. They would laugh together. Marty was more outgoing and she was more reserved. Because of their equal partnership they were able to share responsibility for kids. She said he was responsible for her success. She was as mindful in her personal choices and self disciplined as she was in her opinions and writing. Her granddaughter talked about how they would have discussions about whether or not she should have a second scoop of mango sorbet. Then there was the fact that she was the most attentive copy editor i have ever experienced. She allowed me to transcribe our interviews, but she wanted to edit them before. When she gave me the manuscript, each sentence was marked up in her beautiful and so. She would slightly change punctuation and she caught spelling errors that no one else caught. She learned from nava golf an attention to word choice that she took into emails now nabakov an attention to word choice that she took into emails. Using every single moment im so glad you picked that clip. We can all achieve our potential. Is livingiewer asked, a Meaningful Life the same as giving purpose to life . She said yes, and her purpose, her mission, was to serve the great cause of ecology equality in america. She had Unbelievable Energy to achieve that goal. Host last thoughts for our viewers about the legacy of Ruth Bader Ginsburg . This is a terribly sad , regardless ofca your constitutional perspective, your political perspective. We just lost a Great American hero. Spend today paying tribute to her. The liberty metal video is very moving. You can watch that. Decision, maybe the Virginia Military decision. Then her own words, she has a book. Then watch cspan. Cspan does such a great job. Ando the Video Archives talking,tice ginsburg serving, connecting, others, and serving the constitution. Host we would like to thank jeffrey rosen, resident and ceo of the National Constitution center, for talking about the legacy of Justice Ginsburg. You so much. Guest thank you very much. Host once again, we are going to go to our phone lines. We are talking to you about the death of Justice Ruth Bader ginsburg. Beulll start with eula eh. Good morning. Caller good morning. Justice ginsburg, she was small in stature, but she was great in her voice for the future. She has been a champion to us women here in tennessee. We work with bradshaw to be the next u. S. Senator from the great state of tennessee. Can you believe it is in the south . We held her up to the light to follow with her energy and her tenacity. She stuck it out to the end. I hate to have lost her, god knows best. I will continue to move forward in her name as she has put forward for us here in the United States. She has missed all over the world. Jack who waso to calling from new mexico. Good morning. Caller good morning. I am jack strickland. It is a very Beautiful Day here. I read a touching article about Justice Ginsburg was posted at a feminist website. I dont know if you heard about Citizens United nationally, but feel free to look up their acronym. The article was written by a man named frank hassell. Aboutbasically fanfiction what would happen if george floyd that misses ginsberg in the afterlife. That floyd would rock her at anpoint and rape her in alley. I think you should check it out. Host lets go to mike in stockton, california. Good morning. Caller good morning, jesse. There is no question that Justice Ginsburg had a really at mind. Her husband was equally brilliant. I know of his reputation. He was the problem i have. And i want people to think about this. You cant deny her brilliance. You cannot deny her cleverness. But because she was sophisticated and worldly, she understood what planned parenthood was about. This planned parenthood and people are recognizing it now was founded by Margaret Sanger. And Margaret Sanger was a eugenicist. What ginsberg is going to be remembered for is roe v. Wade. And her defense of it. My problem with Justice Ginsburg and i want people to try to reconcile this and think about it in the upcoming election, amy vera isecause being considered to replace or, her itr replace was designed to decimate our black population. This is acknowledged. They are trying to disassociate sangers name with planned parenthood in massachusetts. To assess Justice Ginsburg and what she was about, especially in the time of black lives matter and that population being targeted for abuse and for wasrmination how ginsberg able to recognize or ameliorate in her mind what abortion means for our black population . , who wass go to buck calling from lexington, texas. Good morning. Caller good morning. Ginsberg, it about is too bad she is gone. It is going to be a great loss. I think she had a great sense of humor. Shes a great person. My condolences to her family. It is not easy, i know that. You all have a nice day. Host Justice Ginsburg spoke about the future of the Womens Movement at Stanford University in 2017. We are going to bring you a little bit from what she said. Theice ginsburg constitution and the court, we aim to ensure that we leave the court the third branch of government will be in as good shape as it was when we joined it. Earlier i spoke of great changes i have seen in womens occupations. Yet, one must acknowledge the still leak part of the picture. The people in poverty in United States and the world are women and children. Womens earnings here and abroad trail the earnings of men, with comparable education and experience. Workplaces do not adequately accommodate the demands of childbearing and child rearing. And we have yet to devise effective ways to ward off Sexual Harassment at work and Domestic Violence in our homes. But i am optimistic that the Movement Toward enlisting the talents of all who compose we as people will continue expressed by my brave colleague, the first woman to serve on the u. S. Supreme court, Justice Sandra day oconnor. For both men and women, the first step in getting power is. O become visible to others and then to put on an impressive show. As women achieve power, the barriers will fall. As society sees what women can do, as women see what women can do, there will be more women out there doing things and we will all be better off for it. Expectation i can only say, amen. Host lets speak with some of our social media followers are saying about the life and legacy of Justice Ruth Bader ginsburg. Says, weone post that have lost a giant in judiciary. Another tweet that says, though i disagreed with rpg on most issue, imost every admired her tenacity. She led a fabulous life. There was nothing mediocre about her. Was assing of rbg tragedy. Our loss will extend far beyond the immediate future. A post from facebook reads, she held tough, like a soldier. Another post from facebook that reads, regardless of where one stands in the political spectrum, we are talking about the death of a human being. Politicsy to focus on rather than having empathy for those who were closest to the deceased. She impacted society in a way that changed society. May she rest in peace. Youre going to go back to the phone lines and talk to you about your thoughts about Ruth Bader Ginsburg. First i want to bring you images from the Supreme Court last night as people came out after hearing about the death of Justice Ginsburg. People came out to the Supreme Court and left mementos, and gathered in honor of the memory of Justice Ruth Bader ginsburg. Lets go back to our phone lines and talk to yaya. Good morning. Caller morning. I just want to say that it is tragic she is gone. Because, you know, women are still fighting to make men understand that abortion is not about babies. Abortion is about a woman being able to control her own cycle and a woman being able to control her own destiny. She understood that. It has nothing to do with the moral or immoral argument. It had to do with freedom and a womans right to have a say in our futures. It is sad that she is gone. Who wasts go to carol, calling from maryland. Good morning. Caller good morning. Agree and recognize that Justice Ginsburg was a great woman. I am sorry to hear about her death. For toit is time take a good look at the people who are in power, such as her and john mccain, john lewis, who are very, very ill, under medication, and getting chemotherapy and all of those things affecting their minds and physical being. There needs to be, at some point, where these people step down or take a break, because they are making decisions that affect all of our lives. I dont want to take anything away from her and all that she did. But i do not think i think there comes a point where the people in power who are very ill and up in age need to step aside or retire or take a break until they are fully recovered and ton come back into return their positions. Because they are affecting decisions that make all of our lives. Host carol, how do we make those decisions . Would you put that power who do you give that power to decide whether someone is physically capable of doing their job or not . Caller i think if they left it up to the American People, they were about the same way that i am thinking right now, if you leave it up to the congress, the senate, the Supreme Court and everything, they vote everything to their advantage, just like term limits. They will never vote for term limits because they never want to step down. Did like strom thurmond, he not retire until he is 99. You cant tell me i mean, he died in his position. You cant tell me at 99 h

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