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CSPAN Washington July 4, 2024

Host we regularly ask you about your trust or confidence in institutions, Government Agencies, individuals, confidence in the military, cdc, irs, and the economy to name a few. But what about organizations who wrote or on that . News media . Monday, august 14, many of you have probably by now watched or read if you news stories this morning. Do you trust of the news media . That is our question in the first hour of the program. We will look at several stories on that but mostly we want to hear from you. If you say yes, the line to call is 202 7488000. If your answer is no, 202 7488001. If you are unsure, trust some, some a little less, 202 7488002 would be the line to call. You can also send us a text, 202 7488003. Tell us your name and where you are texting from, first. We are on facebook and on what used to be called twitter. You can find us cspanwj. We welcome your posts on social media. We spend your the first hour looking at your level of trust and how you get your daily news stories. Which organizations you do or do not trust in the media. 202 7488000 is the line if you say yes you trust the reporting of the news media. 202 7488001 is the line for no maui the line for no. And we will hear from individuals talking about trust and media. Christian science monitor wrote about of the summer, can Americans Trust the news . Confidence is slipping, a poll finds, saying that when it comes to the news media the impact it has on democracy and Political Polarization on americans, they are likely to say its doing more harm than good, three quarters of adult saying its increasing polarization and under half say they have little to no trust in the ability of the media to report news fairly and accurately according to the center for Public Research and Robert F Kennedy human rights. The poll released this summer says americans have significant concerns about misinformation and the role played by the media , politicians, and social media in spreading it and that many are concerned about growing threats to journalist safety, saying that the news right people up. Miss jordan said she now does her own Online Research instead of going by what she sees on the television news. You are better off googling something and learning about it. I trust the internet more than tv, that is part of the writing on the ap poll from the Christian Science monitor. This is from the organization yougov, what news outlets do Americans Trust for information. Scrolling down a look at the results, they are not that great for the media. 2023 americans viewed the Weather Channel, pbs, bbc as the most trustworthy major Media Organizations. The question was how trust for the do you rate the news reported by the following Media Organizations. A bunch of them on there and at the top, as we said, the Weather Channel. Pbs after that, 30 , and it falls from there. The wall street journal, forbes, the Associated Press and so on. In terms of our own organization, the trust of those surveyed, the level of trust was at 14 . Do you trust the news media . Thats our question for you this morning. 202 7488000 is the line for those who say yes. 202 7488001 if your answer is no. If you are unsure, it is 202 7488002. Going to show you comments from james brady from the knight foundation, talking about American Trust in local news media. Particularly local television. Here is what he had to say. [video clip] the other thing that is fascinating, it hasnt even been close for a long time, most trusted, local television and they are not in the discussion as much and i come from a digital world. I have been in digital so long, i was in it, you and i got into this together 28 years ago now. That said, the future of all of this cannot be digital startups. There will be people in every county of america starting something digitally. Local television with the tools coming out like nexgen tent nexgen tv have interesting opportunities to build more trust with the local audience. The reason i find the numbers so surprising is the biggest witticism has been the coverage of black and brown communities, the focus on crime and if it bleeds, it leads and if you look at the numbers the populations that trust local television the most are black and hispanic populations. That said, local tv knows it needs to change on this front in terms of what it covers. I do think that local tv is a bit of an understudied part of the local media ecosystem mostly because we are focused heavily on nonprofits and the philanthropic world but these are all outside of Public Television for profits. They will play a big role in looking at why they are so trusted is something we are interested in and i will tell you the one thing i notice having done a lot of consulting for local television, those of us who came up and print media used to love to make fun of it, six on your side, 11 has your back, we are here for you and we would bury the fact that we broke the story in the 14th paragraph because we didnt want to be too upfront about it that there is something to that. People Walking Around saying they got my back and its like you fell for that . Thats how we felt on the print side but there is value to that. Consumer reports where they put someone on the air and it shows how they save someone 500 by standing up for them with the power company. I do think that there are some lessons in there and i wanted to say that because i feel like local tv just gets put to the side, there are lessons there about Building Trust with an audience that we should Pay Attention to. Host the opening question this morning is about trust in the media. Reaction and text from kevin, the American Press is dominated by left bias. Reporters cannot restrain the bias. Even if they try they have been caught lying to further it. Carl on Facebook Says i hold them in lower trust then an uncertified parachute packer. They have no affiliation with the truth and can best be described as the Media Support section of the dnc. Derek says i dont trust newsmax or fox news. Albert, saying trust one outlet presented version of the truth not a whole. Watching several outlets provides a better picture. Especially news or mother countries. Cspan is good for out of the horses mouth information. Lets get your calls. If you say yes i trust the media, 202 7488000. If your answer is no, 202 7488001. Richard, chestnut hill, good morning. Caller can you hear me . Host we can, go ahead. Caller thank you so much. Let me just tell you that my background in education was, i studied at the school of media and Public Affairs at George Washington university. And of course, in this day and age, bill, we have a very, very different evolving media environment. I believe quite frankly that of all of our Constitutional Rights the most important one is the freedom of the press. If it were not for the freedom of the press, week, none of us, no americans would know, would know about anything. You wouldnt know what your rights were. That being said, ideologically im personally left of center. Relatively liberal democrat. I am disheartened by the fact that when this atmosphere of toxicity, people tend to be on the left side of the spectrum, ok, they do not watch fox news. Years ago i used to watch it. I enjoyed certain panelists, etc. Now there is a certain former figure, larger than life, charged with federal crimes, if you go to cnn, faction, fox news, you cant avoid it. Its upsetting. Semi colon and then i will get to my point, thank you so much, i am very, very disheartened. The reason im calling to say i trust in the media but i preface that is the environment with so few large chains that own local television stations or newspapers. I could go on. Its a real shame. There are great metropolitan areas of the country not served by the important principle of localism. Theres work to be done. Host do you think that consolidation of media ownership in the broadcast and print out lets has further reduced trust by americans in those outlets . Is there a more monogamous view presented in those outlets owned by the fewer and fewer large corporations . Caller to answer your question, i dont know that its, that its a particular ideology that would cause on whatever side of, you know, but i do believe that what it has led to, notwithstanding the current things of current events, to answer your question directly, is that its all about the bottom line and its about if it bleeds, it leads. That old phrase. Sensationalism and infotainment, all of that. Thats what i have to say. Host ron is next, doesnt trust the media calling from california. Good morning. Caller thank you for taking my call. I have a short red on the media rant on the media. Our illiteracy in this country is so disturbing that, sometimes you just shake your imagination. Look it up, 21 of our population in the United States are illiterate. Functionally illiterate. They cannot read or write. These people are voting. Then you have 54 of the population of the United States that have under a sixth grade education. These people are voting. People have no fundamental understanding of the constitution of the United States. They cant tell you about the amendment, the 19th amendment, or the 21st amendment and its relationship to our country. They should go google it, bing it, do something. But they dont. Finally, talking about reading, no one reads in this country anymore. Our newspapers are evaporating in front of our very eyes. You know, i tell you, when i grew up we went to college. The first thing i did was i started reading kurt vonnegut. I read three important novels. One was player piano, the third one was cats cradle. The second one was sirens of titan. It tells you everything you would ever want to know about whats going on in our country today. Host local newspapers are disappearing but one could also argue that there are all sorts of other online races now where people can read stories and reporting of all kinds. Whether you trust the reporting is another thing. Later on we have a survey around local newspapers but you are right about that, couldnt it be fairly said that there are plenty of online and social Media Outlets in filling for some of whats lost by local papers going away . Caller let me put it in the sports context. Im a sports fan. I like to read bill lasky. Cover and a covered. Try to read that online. Try to read that on a 23 inch computer monitor. Its ridiculous. Its time consuming. I want the tactile feel of the newspaper. Flip the page over when i get tired of reading three words or 10 words or two paragraphs and say no, thats not right. Then i go to the next page. When you do that online its a different feel totally and you dont get the understanding of whats going on. Host appreciate your input. Daniel, germantown, maryland, what are your thoughts on the news media . Caller can you hear me ok . Host here you just fine. Caller i want to make several points. The last time i called was to discuss candidates outside the duopoly. I see the issue as connected because the way i see it, the media serves the duopoly and by that i mean corporate interests. So you know, one of the colors earlier i heard them say that, the clip that you played before with that panel with a discussion about if the media has a leftwing bias or the way i see it, its a corporate bias. The media provides a service and paying customers, right . Cspan is a service of major cable companies. You obviously have an interest in having an audience but it is provided by corporate control so you get a corporate perspective but the corporation wants. The second part is, you know, what is the price that a Media Organization pays for getting stories wrong or uncritically accepting false narratives, false political or government narratives . There doesnt seem to be one. Again, the, the misinformation that comes from official sources is given in service of this corporate control, this duopoly, which gets to my third point, the discussion about people turning to independent media sources. Really, what it is is we understand we have a bias also. Our politics are not so comfortably colored as left or right, red or blue, republican or democrat. Other people have interests and they dont expect except the corporate perspective. Its not that we want to be lied to, its that a lot of times the whole discussion is being discussed. For example, im a veteran of the iraq war. That war is based on lies. Where is, where is the discussion about american leaders, politicians, members of congress being war criminals or abetting war crimes by not holding the Bush Administration accountable . Wheres the same kind of accountability on the Obama Administration for ratcheting up, he campaigned on bringing the wars to a responsible end. That involved holding the Bush Administration to account, he famously said he would look forwards and not backwards. What happens when the people clearly see something that needs to be discussed not being discussed . Host thank you for that. Two pointed out, our editorial project, this program included, is completely separate under the auspices of the editorial that here at cspan. We are asking you this morning about your trust in the media. Do you trust the news media. 202 7488000 if you say yes, 202 7488001 if you say no, 202 7488002 if you are not sure. Talking about that a client in newspapers and local recording, reporting, heres something on the various aspects of local newspapers and local newspaper sites. The actual traffic of those sites online has increased according to pew in recent years. Meanwhile, visitors, people who look at those sites for local papers, dropping off, as is advertising revenue and circulation, way down for local papers across the country. Reading you a story out of kansas in just a bit, a raid on a local Newspaper Office there. Evelyn is next, who says yes, she go ahead. Caller i do trust my news media. Except i stopped getting the local newspapers because fox bought them up in our area. I look at pbs, cnn, msnbc. I look at news nation. Because i dont need to be entertained. Three masters degrees. I want information and knowledge and if i cant get that, i will move on to someone else. I dont need to be entertained going off into left field calling people names. Host all right, thomas, lancaster, pennsylvania, good morning. Caller good morning. I would say that unfortunately the occurrence, even in the asking of this question, as an immigrant whose parents came to the United States one of the things i learned was the importance of the media. Reporting society to society. I learned that a long time ago. When you look at what needs to be adjusted, its predictable. You listen to fox, you know exactly what you are going to get. Likewise cnn, msnbc, you know what you are going to get. As a fundamental rule of educating, entertaining, and informing, its the role of the media to really go beyond the surface level. Although we see now is click a. Its all about the money. The real truth of what the story is, who is buying the story, its no longer there. I see an increasing amount of what i call pay the piper. Big corporations, politicians, they are the ones running the media and when you do that, you know where they are going to go. We know for the editorial will be. And which stories they are affirming. That in itself takes away the fundamental of accuracy and impartiality. Host you pointed out that you know what you are going to get you listen to certain talk radio. Fox, pbs, npr. As listeners and viewers, are we culpable in that we get in our comfort zones in things that we watch and read in certain outlets and would we be comfortable with those outlets presenting a view that isnt typical of the outlet . A view that we have maybe not heard on that outlet . Are those news outlets aware of the Comfort Level of their audience saying that not the kind of story are audience will tolerate . Caller i feel like the media plays a psychological mind game here. Basically tell them what they want to hear. When you look at that, in the interest of the question here, surely people do they go there because they trusted . No, maybe they go by a Comfort Level where they tell me what they want to hear and to me thats not journalism. I might as well just take the time and go listen to somewhere else. Because there is no platform providing that Comfort Level someone says maybe i listen to that. For me when i listen to the news, i could care less who is involved. Give me the facts. Go into the details. Dig deep. Tell me who, what, when, why, how. Those other questions i want to hear. I want answers to those questions so that i will be able to make an informed decision. There is indoctrination in the u. S. Media nowadays. Like i said, people find it convenient to listen to fox news because it supports a narrative theyve been told. Host good points there. Silver spring, maryland. Erin is up next. Caller hello, good morning. Thank you for having me. I would say i use to have more trust in the media when i was younger, but the trust has been severely damaged, maybe irreparably destroyed with how the media covered covid. They took a particular ideological narrative and never wavered, regardless of the facts that kept coming out. The best example is in march 2020, the New York Times ran a very scary article about covid and children and kawasaki disease. The one article led everybody to panic and close the schools for two years and then they would not report for a long time about the damage that was causing to children and different populations. For a long time they would not discuss the very mixed evidence about masking. They would not discuss the questions about the covid origin. It wasnt fashionable

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