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CSPAN U.S. July 3, 2024

Thats the wrong approach. And so just fundamentally this is a difference in policy, its a difference in goal, apparently its a difference in assessment of what mirks military strong and will continue to make it strong. So for those reasons, i have to strongly oppose this amendment. I yield im sorry, i reserve the balance of my time. The chair the gentleman reserves the balance of his time. Members are reminded to direct their remarks to the chair. The gentleman from South Carolina is recognized. Mr. Norman this is more liberal gibberish. 1. 4 billion. Tell these young people behind me, you tell them instead of building ships, instead of building airplanes, instead of protecting cyber security, youre going to really pay for transgender operations . Hogwash. You try to make that case to anybody in this room. And they would laugh its so serious they wouldnt laugh. Let me tell you other things im sick and tired of. Feelings. Talk to the military gold star mothers who have lost their children. Tell them what you just said on this house floor. A book that teaches remedy to past discrimination. Another one, military recruitment videos in recent years have touted the militarys inclusioncy ofity to lgbt members. They use a rainbow flag. Enough is enough. Americans are tired of this. Why do you think the shortage of people entering the military can put up with this kind of thinking . For this reason we shouldnt even be wasting our time debating this thing. But it is what it is. Thanks to the Biden Administration and their antimilitary and antireadiness, its a time in america that we are in severe danger economically and security wise. I reserve. The chair jere the gentlemans time has expired. Members are reminded to direct their remarks to the chair. The gentleman from hawaii is recognized. Mr. Case thank you, mr. Chair. Obviously we have a difference of opinion here. I would also submit that the leadership of our military have a difference of opinion with the perspectives expressed by the offerer of this amendment. Again, they understand the value of pursuing a he diverse a diverse equitable, equal, and diverse military. They understand the challenges of a military that is not representative of the American People. They understand the need to provide for that investment. Again, we can oversee this particular effort. We can question particular representations of that policy. But to take a blunt instrument to this entire effort and defund it and say that it has no value at all, thats whats objectionable in this amendment. With that i yield back the balance of my time. The chair the gentleman yields back. The question is on the amendment offered by the gentleman from South Carolina. So many as are in favor say aye. Those opposed, no. The ayes have it. The amendment is agreed to. It is now in order to considered am numbered 169 printed in part a of house report 118216. For what purpose does the gentleman from South Carolina seek recognition . Mr. Norman i have an amendment at the desk. The chair the clerk will designate the amendment. The clerk amendment number 169, printed in part a of house report number 118216, offered by mr. Norman of South Carolina. The chair pursuant to House Resolution 723, the gentleman from South Carolina, mr. Norman, and a member opposed, will each control five minutes. The chair recognizes the gentleman from South Carolina. Mr. Norman thank you, mr. Speaker. Again like the other amendment i had, i cannot believe we are sitting here debating this. But what my amendment does is prohibits provisions of gender transition procedures, including surgery or medication, through the exceptional Family Member program. Let me tell you what the exceptional Family Member program is. It provides resources to military families with special needs. This program is designed for military spouses, children, and other dependent Family Members who require ongoing medical or Educational Services such as individuals with autism. Asthma, chronic respiratory illnesses, down syndrome. And many others. The military has tried to politicize this matter. My amendment ensures that we reserve the valuable programs and dollars for these programs which would go toward the intent of what it was put in the first place, which is to help families with special needs. And prevent the further disillusioned and misguided dollars spent on Something Like gender transition procedures. It also my amendment also prohibits the change of duty station simply for the purpose of providing a child with easier access to these procedures. I urge the adoption of this. I reserve the balance of my t time. The chair the gentleman reserves. For what purpose does the gentleman from hawaii rise . Mr. Case i rise in opposition to this amendment. The chair the gentleman is recognized. Mr. Case thank you, mr. Chair. Again we have an amendment that would want us, apparently, to occupy some other state of reality. As opposed to the world as we have it today. In that world we do have, transgender individuals who need help, children whose parents are looking for the right courses of conduct for them. And this measure would say that those parents do not have the rights to make those decisions in consultation with their doctors and with their children. And further what this amendment says is that those parents need not apply to join our military because they will not be welcomed there with the decisions that they need to make for their families. This amendment that cuts gender affirming care options for Service Members children would drive individuals out of the military, prevent recruitment to start with, and is frankly needlessly cruel. These decisions should be reserved to parents and their children. I hear all the time from the other side of the aisle talking about parents rights. All the time. Parents should have the right to make these decisions. Is there an exception for military families . Parents get to make these decisions, by the way if you are a member of our military you dont get to make these decisions. This is a very personal decision for parents to make with their families. With their children, and with their doctors. Its probably in all honesty unconstitutional as courts believe health care bans like this violate the equal protection clause of the constitution. Lets leave that aside and talk about the policy. Is the policy wise to say to Service Members and their families that they cannot access care that is provided to them in a nonService Member world . I think thats the wrong policy. I oppose this amendment. Reserve the balance of my time. The chair the gentleman reserves. The gentleman from South Carolina is recognized. Mr. Norman well, let me tell you the dollar amount spent for the past five years. 15 million. 15 million for surgery for a man who cant decide whether hes a man. Or a girl who cant decide shes a girl. Imagine that. If you tell those families that have children with down continue some down syndrome, you tell those families that have severely autistic children, you going to spend it to changing genders . I dont mind somebody if they question the gender. But pay for it yourself. Not on the backs of our brave military families. In the past five years, it was spent the 15 million was spent to treat 1,892 transgender troops. Isnt that something. You want somebody trying to decide if they are a man or woman on the firing line . Thats really a question to decide in the military. 11. 5 million was spent for psycho therapy. And 3. 1 million for surgeries. The price tag for individuals getting this surgery and treatments after have ranged from 8,000 to 100,000. Related Health Care Coverage is only going up. My point is, i think to make this argument, particularly with dollars that could be spent helping meaningful children who have disabilities, is should be made. To spend this money that we dont have just really spitz in the face of our military families. I reserve. The chair the gentleman reserves. The gentleman from hawaii is recognized. Mr. Case thank you, mr. Chair. First of all we can certainly debate on the efficient use of our funds for expenses and costs. I strongly suspect my colleagues objections on this amendment do not relate to cost but to a judgment about what should and shouldnt be provided to our military families. We can have this debate about transgender care for our military Service Members. The debate will look Something Like this one. But this particular amendment would ban any care for minor children. What this amendment would do is to say to our military Service Members, you cannot have the full range of medical recognized medical options for your children that are available in a nonmilitary setting. Thats what this amendment would do. This is about children. Its about parents making decisions for their children. And this is a situation where that decision should be left to the Service Member parents who have a choice as to whether they serve in the military or not. Have a choice whether to join the military or not. Or stay in the military. We should provide to them the same basic rights and options as are available in the private sector. Otherwise aside from not being fair to them, in my estimation, we also would not have a Strong Military because theyll choose not to join. With that i yield back the balance of my time. The chair the gentleman yields back. The gentleman from South Carolina is recognized. Mr. Norman how much time do i have . The chair 1 1 2 minutes. Mr. Norman i just say that its this kind of thinking thats got the military in a demoralized state. Its this kind of thinking, this kind of rationalization of our hardearned tax money thats got the military recruitment numbers way down. Its this kind of woke thinking that is penalizing families that want to serve this country by families who have children with these disabilities, who need the care, that they would deprive from getting the care because they want to fund somebody who doesnt know what gender they are. Its this kind of thinking that americas sick and tired of. And ask any military family and they would tell you the same thing. I yield back the balance of my time. The chair the gentleman yield back. The question is on the amendment offered by the gentleman from South Carolina. So many as are in favor say aye. Those opposed, no. In the opinion of the chair, the ayes have it. The agreement is agreed to. It is now in order to considered consider amendment number 170, printed in part a of house report number 118216. For what purpose does the gentleman from tennessee seek recognition . I have an amendment at the desk. The chair amendment number 170, printed in part a of house report 118216. Offered by mr. Ogles of tennessee. The chair pursuant to house res. 723, the gentleman from tennessee, mr. Ogles, and a member eoh posed member opposed, each will control five minutes. The chair recognizes the gentleman fromtown t mr. Ogles the section 1260h list maintained by the department of defense was created by the fiscal year 2021 National Defense authorization act. Intended to identify any Chinese Military Companies Operating directly or indirectly in the United States. Section 1260h is a part of a largely bipartisan yearslong effort to name and shame ccp Companies Operating in our nation. While the Biden Administration has made important additions to this list, including military companies such as kim china, and China State Construction company, the administration has still fallen short of a full commitment to countering the maligned influences of the c. C. P. Earlier this year we saw secretaries yellen, blinken, and row mannedo take trips to china as part of a diplomatic overture. Many of my colleagues would undoubtedly agree that the c. C. P. Could careless about diplomacy and that these trips have very little if any bearing on how china chooses to behave on the international stage. One could argue that these trips only serve to demonstrate the limits and lack of american resolve to confront the p. R. C. s obviously petulant behavior. For instance, it is a daily occurrence to see the p. R. C. Infringe on taiwans air defense identification zone. The p. R. C. Regularly makes threats to wage war against taiwan. They entran developing countries into contracts that make them at the facto vessel states. They construct duel use ports across the dual use ports across the world and it goes on and on and on, mr. Chairman. In the face of the c. C. P. s belligerent escalatory actions, the gut reaction of the American Administration ought not to be for the secretary of the treasury to fly to china, consume psychedelic mushrooms and yet thats what he saw from janet yellen. Before secretary raimondos visit to china, the secretary of commerce, acting through the bureau of industry and security, unilaterally removed 27c. C. P. Entities from the bureaus socalled unverified list. Our department of commerce literally chose to make a concession to an aggressive state in order to get the c. C. P. To meet with our commerce secretary. It is clear that this president s judgment cannot be trusted. This administrations assessment of china has only emboldened our nations foremost enemy. Appeasement has long failed as a strategy and it continues to fail today. I reserve. The chair the gentleman reserves. Does anyone claim time . In opposition . Mr. Ogles mr. Chairman, i ask adoption of my amendment. I yield back. The chair the question is on the amendment offered by the gentleman from tennessee, mr. Ogles. Those in favor say aye. Those opposed, no. In the opinion of the chair, the ayes have it. The amendment is agreed to. It is now in order to consider amendment number 171 printed in part a of house report 118216. For what purpose does the gentleman from tennessee seek recognition . Mr. Ogles i have an amendment at the desk. The chair the clerk will designate the amendment. The clerk amendment number 171. Printed in part a of house report 118216 offered by mr. Ogles of tennessee. The chair pursuant to House Resolution 723, the gentleman from tennessee and a member opposed each will control five minutes. The chair now recognizes the gentleman from tennessee. Mr. Ogles thank you, mr. Chairman. It would appear that many in the Democratic Party have taken it upon themselves to offer their talents and considerable abilities to help determine which information is reliable and which isnt. But no thanks to mr. Chairman, in september, 2021, the department of defense offered news guard a selfproclaimed fact checker a 750,000 grant to effectively censor conservative viewpoints and opinions. Want the proof of newsguards censorship efforts . Im more than happy to provide undisputed facts. Newsguard has given extremely subjective and clearly biased ratings to several conservative news outlets, including the federalist, a 12. 5 accuracy and screbility score credibility score. And o. A. N. , 17. 5 . Im sure these conservative news outlets have lost out on crucial ad revenue from these ratings. Its censorship. It is fundamentally pathetic that this administration thinks they can sideline conservative viewpoints and demonize conservative platforms without the American People finding out about this. All this is happening while politico, n. P. R. , the New York Times have previously received a perfect 100 . Cbs, 95 . Mr. Chairman, were supposed to have an open and free press. There should be no censorship. This is the United States of america. And the fact that we are funding an organization that is censoring viewpoints and news is untenable. I reserve. The chair the gentleman reserves. For what purpose does the gentlewoman from minnesota seek recognition . Ms. Mccollum thank you, mr. Chair. I rise in opposition to this amendment. The chair the gentlewoman is recognized. Ms. Mccollum thank you. Newsguard is a service that provides tools to counter misinformation and has been around since 2018. Used as tools to catalog and track all of the top false narratives spreading online. Which is an effective and in encountering hostile misinformation targeting democratic governments like our own. Theres no doubt that china, russia and iran and other bad actors are trying to influence our country through its mis, dis and malinformation. We need every tool available to determine whats real and whats not and what comes to when it comes to being reported by the press. The amendment does nothing to weaken our ability to do that. So i oppose this amendment and at this point in time i reserve the balance of my time. The chair the gentlewoman reserves. The chair recognizes the gentleman from tennessee. Mr. Ogles thank you, mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, it should be noted that newsmax tv is more than just online. Cbs isnt just online. The New York Times isnt just online. These are news outlets with multiple platforms. So its not about censoring online, its about censorship. The irony here is abundant. Especially when considering that these leftist news outlets par ottawaed the lie promoted by parroted the lie promoted by intelligence officials and the disastrous secretary of state that the hunter biden laptop story was a production of russian disinformation. Only in america could a guy who helped steal an election and undermined our democracy be promoted to oversee our nations policy on ukraine but thats the story of Anthony Blinken in a nut shell. The hunter biden laptop debacle was literally the biggest story of the 2020 election and a story, if taken seriously, might have resulted in a different outcome.

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