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Our events are a manifestation of that. So today with a fantastic conversation about whats practical and what we should be shooting for among the party wars in d. C. And with a bunch of frontline players are going to take us behind the scenes of that. Im going to set the stage with a colleague from axios who has been such a great part of our first nine months who worked on the business side of cnn, excuse me, the business side of political and the New York Times can work on the editorial side of cnn and the washington post. Has a very unusual perspective, 360 perspective on media trends, does a great, great media trends newsletter, love to welcome my color, our media trends subject Matter Expert sara fischer. Good morning. Morning. Thank you. That you very much. With any big story on axios youll find out right away why it matters. So today were doing why it matters, and you popped up a perfect post this morning. Look at how democrats and republicans in congress communicate differently. Totally differently. So Pew Research Center did a study last year, took a look at all the social media posts of members of congress, all the press releases that members of congress put out and they found one key difference which is republicans tend to go to social media first when you want to communicate with their constituencies. Typically a Facebook Post or democrats on the other hand, will go to a press release. I called someone last night who is a veteran hill member, a Democratic Committee staffer and she said one of the things you here on capitol hill all the time which we are sure many of you know is that democrats will go for policy first. Republicans will go for message first. Its a toy giveaway of communicating between the two parties on capitol hill. What would they tell you about why . I i think they would tell the alleys republicans would tell you crafting a message and try to communicate with someone through a medium is an important part of explaining a policy. If you cant communicate it in the right way the message itself, the policy itself would be lost. Democrats would tell you theyre so concerned with explaining rationale that they want to focus on home in on the policy and other delivered that message is an afterthought. What i will say and i talked to folks on capitol hill this seems to be slipping. You see a lot of members, representative dingell, people who are taking to social media and breaking through, these are new changes and it doesnt this is looming that dynamic will be that way forever but thats the newfound for 2016. Sara fischer an addition to her weekly media trends, newsletter, a super popular speaker on changes in the consumption and dissemination of media, sara, my nephew who you met just graduate from chapel hill, 22, how is the way he gets information from about his senator or his member different from probably the way senator member is disseminating information . Total different. First of all that senator or members going to take to every single outlet possible. They will put out a Traditional Press release, they might do a townhall, put up things and social media. They will have one on one groups with lobbying members on capitol hill. Evan might only get one tweet. Hes only given the briefed by his member probably to social media probably just from one way which is why members on capitol hill have to so many different communication methods because you dont know where your constituent is and when. This is something very different like just a few years ago even members but out of press release and that was it. This totally new world for members on capitol hill and thats what why you think so ms not only be think of communication staff of social media staff. Youve had enough of scoops about the power of snapchat. What can washington and i can include communicators, senators, members, media organizations and could include foundations. What can washington and Public Policy communicators learn and what should we know about snapchat . Snapchat is a great visual and powerful medium. If you follow along you a notice they are causally constantly cd rebranding themselves a camera company. They want to make sure every message is a big, beautiful, bright picture or video. Thats difficult folks on capitol hill. For so long but that is how we see the world. Absolutely have see the world. Snapchat is tapping into the inner way a lot of other social mediums never did. Twitter didnt even allow you to attach pictures without it going against your character count. Snapchat has pioneered this visual medium anyway members should be looking into and taking advantage of. You studied political communication at George Washington university. How has political communication changed even since you were editor, even since you graduate from gw you has changed . The biggest change is people on capitol hill and then their surroundings powerbrokers are really engage in social media. In fact, before President Trump, president obama use social media turkey was called the first social media president but he was a prolific. He wasnt on every single day. Now we would talk to some of our advertising partners, some of our forces on the hill and in washington sources they will tell you you have to engage with the members unsocial. Thats something thats really different and is totally ramped up in the past nine months especially since the president has taken to twitter on an almost daily basis. Does the president tweet . And people can tell right away whether its the official or the i i think they can tell. One thing you will see with so many psychological studies about younger kids is they crave authenticity. They want to be spoken to in a way that friends speak to depict this is why youtube stars, who are the people on youtube . They are not celebrities youve heard of. Most of them are people ive never heard of. They are young up and comers who to speak directly to the camera. I see thats a huge difference in Communication Style is you can tell when a member is just putting a link to his press release and sang i put up for x, y and z person when a member comes back with a quick and do something sure. Its either going to be one of their communication staffers were some of the console with about how to create a buzzy tweet. As our ceo would say, blow my mind. What something coming up, dont give away the store but what something coming up in media trends are what something we should be watching about how Public Policy communication could affect what actually gets done or gets thwarted in washington . I was to get a ticket dynamic is being totally upended in washington. Most people who need to give an update will bring on an agency tilt to the do it whether its a pr firm or some sort of digital firm. And for solo people relied on these big names like adelman or ogilvie and they are Important Agency players. Now the smaller netbook groups have different expertise and Political Communications or Campaign Communications are starting to pop up and be leveraged by the Biggest Companies in the world. A lot of those agencies are in d. C. Its a great opportunity for our city. A great opportunity for expolitical staffers are trying to get into the agency world. Thats one thing i have i ought is out d. C. Is changing to age the world. As we say goodbye is media helping or hurting polarization in d. C. . You can look at it either way. I like to be helpful and i was a media always finds transparency. Usually things people should know about. Sara fischer, when people always ask a fun fact, i have a fun fact about you. Sara fischer, how many email contacts do you have . I have a lot of email contacts. They are not all mi all in my t listed many of them are in excel spreadsheet that a vincente. At the olympic what do you get . Tens of thousands. Sara fischer, thank you for your great coverage. Appreciate you. Thank you. [applause] thank you very much, sara fischer. Welcome our cspan viewers and those of you who are joining us online. Please join the conversation with hashtag axios360. We think that Hewlett Foundation for making this event possible and now its my honor to welcome to our stage republican from florida, congressman who we been talking backstage a lot for these big issues of whats possible in washington, how to make progress across the aisle, from south florida, congressman carlos curbelo. Welcome back. [applause] my pleasure to be here. As we were backstage you said you had a formidable experience involving sports that was the best possible preparation for being on capitol hill. Refereeing high school basketball. And, of course, the papers were always the worst. The kids were okay but i built a lot of character and it taught me that she was have to try to make the right call. Youre going to get tackled from both sides. If you do a really good job, no one will say anything to you. You can just walk quietly out of the gym. Thats kind of what politics is like. And i think one of the problem is the referees want the game to be all about them these days, and its not about us. It should be about the American People like it is about the the players. Some of the things you said did seth lover you are 37 so youre an official millennial. Thank you. Its all your fault. Some people put me as a young gen xers. Some as an old millennial. Im kind of in between like bipartisanship i guess. [laughing] you have been reaching out not only across the aisle but also across generations. What is it like to be younger on capitol hill . I think we bring a different perspective. I think we are a little more sober about politics. I find that people in my generation in both parties are lessened to some of the roleplaying that a think many in washington have become accustomed to. I tell young people, especially people younger than me, i really think its going to take new generations in the United States in order to to have the politil renaissance that i think we sorely, desperate need in this country, bring a more sober, thoughtful, conciliatory approach to politics. Sober, thoughtful, conciliatory, sort of three strikes for the current congress. Of those what would be your, what would you be most helpful about actually making a change . So i think theres some issues out there that just cry out for obvious solutions. Weve been debating immigration in this country, the first dream act was filed in 2001. We are still talk about dreamers in 2017 having done nothing. Broader Immigration Reform was introduced by president bush in 20052006. Nothing has happened. And the solutions at least to me are fairly obvious. One of the things im optimistic about this time, especially the end of the year, is that we may have the first meaningful, significant immigration compromise since 1998. So this would be extending the daca, the dreamer fix, speaker ryan has said that will be part of the budget bill at the end of the year . Thats i hope, and obviously that would be accompanied by some reasonable Border Security measures. I think most american degree that we have right and a dude and control our borders. Brought activity at the border and most americans want to stop that. So now when you Start Talking about it while i think thats what people start to get divided, but it dont think anyone leaves we will build a 2000mile wall, but we should do everything we can to have reasonable, sensible Border Security. Dont tell the president. What is your sense of how much, what he says is for affect, how much of it he really for instance, with the wall, what you do you think he actually either would settle for a recognize these he will probably ultimately deliver . I think, and i dont know him well, i have on interactive within a couple of times, but i think, and you look back at his life and his career in business, hes a very pragmatic person. I really think he will take almost any reasonable compromise. So i dont pay too much i do people im not obsessed with the president. There are people both those better for it and those that are against him that are obsessed with them. Their day revolves around what the president says and does. I just cant do that. I dont think thats healthy about anyone. By the way i have liked and kids i think about them all day but my whole day doesnt revolve around either, you know . Thats just not healthy. So i dont let myself be defined by this president just like it did let myself be defined by the last president. Going back to refereeing people, people ask me all the time how do you do with a trunk with the same way i do with the barack obama. When i agree with them im supportive and i will give you i just have to think that ideas are bad then i will oppose them. I think thats what every member of congress should do. This is not about tell therefrom a party, to greet every time to get not at opposing every time. This is that institutions and the balance of power and i think thats our cost is reduced to work with executive when we think we were talking about the difference between what is practical about by person actually just action, and whats aspirational. Could you talk about how you see that difference between when you think we should shoot for and what you think is realistic . Bipartisanship is not in and come its a means to achieving good, lasting policy. So im part of a a problem sols caucus and you have Josh Gottheimer here in a few minutes we work very closely together, but this dialogue that we are having, its all wonderful. Its important because you cant have results without Good Relationship and sober conversations. But thats not the end. The end is to have good policy. Thats why were hoping to have a role in immigration compromise. There has to be a spending compromised if that will happen at the leadership level. Tax reform, there may be room, there should be room for bipartisanship there. So the idea i think our framers, obviously given the way they develop the constitution, the ideas for people to come together, have rigorous debate and then settle on something they can all agree in, knowing not everybody is going to get everything they want. Dont come on okay once we have a couple of major bipartisan wins, congress can be convincing to do this kind behavior and we can kind of crowd out the forces that always try to prevent that type of compromise either or political gain or for financial gain, a lot of groups after the like to get people riled up, the by the country and make a profit. Who were you talk about when you said make a profit . Theres lots of Interest Groups out there on both sides, and their Business Model is were going to make a lot of people angry, paranoid, scared, and we will ask them for contributions, send ten dollars today to help me stop x from destroying your life. This is a lot of anxiety and economic insecurity in our country, people are susceptible to that and thats what i think, my view, taxi from is one of the biggest things we can do for this country. Greater growth will make people feel better. That will make people more confident. They will be less prone to scapegoating fellow americans are blaming trade deals for some of our challenges in this country, people just going to feel like they can thrive. What are the chances getting democratic votes in the house for tax reform . I think they are pretty good. A lot of our democratic colleagues are fixated on this, the 1 , the top 1 which i understand we want a fair tax system. But i also understand, this is a statistical fact we one of the most progressive tax systems in the world. The wealthy pay a lot to find all of our government programs. So again i dont obsess with the 1 for the 2 for the 10 . I think we should have actually for all americans. But republicans are going to put in a fourth bracket. Theres a good chance that its 39. 6 bracket that exists today and i think if we do that thats going to help a lot of our democratic colleagues consider supporting tax reform package that lowers the tax burden on at least most americans, and leads to greater growth. Youre a republican in south florida. Depending on the issue that can be enemy territory. How have you navigated that . By being a good referee. Look, people in my district, for example, on a lot of foreignpolicy issues are more conservative leaning heavily in a hawkish activist american foreignpolicy on issues like education, strong supporters of public education. I came from a school board. I am, too. So i never district i really try to do whats best for my district. Thats why sometimes im in agreement with our leaders in the house on the republican side, and sometimes im not. When you are not do they get it or do they punish a . Know, yeah. People talk about i think on the democratic side, this might be more the case, but on the republican side theres almost not enough accountability. We have the opposite problem where every member is really kind of expected to act as an independent contractor for the district. And you know thats caused some challenges because weve struggled at times to get our majority to pass certain bills. That he speaks weak leadership. Can you see your generation providing Stronger Leadership . I think our leadership is a product of our conference. I dont think our leaders are weak. I think our leaders lead a very Diverse Group