Will come to the hearing to have differences with. I think that will make up the American Public on the reliance of supply chain of Critical Materials do you consider that our response to the decision to allow huawai with a 5g network that theri government decision crosses the alliance. And with and this specifically looking at cyberattacks. We are divided into two parts really want to be dependent on the Chinese Government when everything goes wrong my argument is probab that the same and then Brigadier General problem that you have another democracies is that intense would join us for part number interest in the telecom two. Thank you very much for your time today your ex military the house of representatives before being elected senator industry dont want to see change and quite frankly they but the commentator on Us Foreign Affairs and are not capable to deploy that particularly the us and china urelationship and you and i have known each other for many type of network that we try to get to into forms of industry many years and prior to entering politics so thank you four. Oh because of convention very much for your time today. And our established Business Models and is difficult to and we are very conscious to break out of i just look at me in challenging time following the tragic death the george floyd our thoughts are with those impacted by this tragedy us is not alone to tackle the underlying issues for those that are directly affected. And then to move into those questions. Of course we all want British Telecom is one example there is a requirement for British Telecom to provide services to the people of the justice and that horrific uk but also a definite need for uk Going Forward with the advanced ai platform for automation of the future thats not British Telecoms business right now. Video and we expected allied Peaceful Protesters we are ultimately you cannot take that network and modify it to do those things you have to build an entirely new network and thats a challenge we are all facing all of these applications wee e talk about gathered to talk about china and huawai poses to our will never come to market the she build the network because were talking about a new type of network not just relationship. Communication o o but also i just have a few remarks atem computing. The outset i want to make thank you for that weve clear on behalf of the United States government in part of lost a couple of colleagues ironically where having votes on how we should vote given the process of voting if we the Nations Capital and part should be here in person orr not this gives you an of the United Kingdom and that illustration of the challenges relationship and to introduce we are currently facing i am legislation and the conducting my own little rebellion by staying with you and focusing on Committee Work im glad to see other colleagues have done the same. I want to focus on the Actual Development of the warhead. Companies themselves from the it is my hope the special relationship remains strong although i fear china is british perspective you have anderson and no kia and then driving a wedge between us to focus on japan and samsung using huawai. We have testimony from a very capable specialist why it is but in the United States what are the companies that are not trustworthy and your government has been advised it cannot be contained if it is advancing your own 5g capabilities . Are they gaining any state part of the core network. Sponsorship with their abilities to overtake . Gma produces 5g radios gma but our technical experts disagree from those allied democracies. Is more of an open rand company air stan has more we also think it could help obtain a host of damaging information that intrusive proprietary equipment like samsung but very small volume information in the scenarios of the Chinese Communist party for American Forces are the problem quite frankly is the lack of Real Investment in stationed so let me just give you one hypothetical. 5g. Those are the radio providers. Our founders in england and those in the United States. And by shipping companies in that Network Includes huawai equipment into the military Logistics Operations hackers on the core provider side it is a mismatch that have been could cancel those shipments selling to the Telecom Providers based on Service Green wave is another, microsoft just bought a firm that is Software Core based on Service Based architecturele. For the fighter cruise and the missions. These are the warnings of american experts and to take all of these are building traditional telecom. Right now there is not alliedll those seriously. Of enterprise industrial and then to come to a slightly different conclusion. So today we look at that threat to be more severe. China is a greater longterm Internet Provider among the Software Providers for network equipment. But none of these of that threat. Sputnik moment are receiving state funding to expedite or advance. Not yet. In the coming years United States plans to increase our sedefense posture the build up to require us of other plans the case in england rather than alaska or hawaii or guam or japan was already tested in the debates in washington. Now officials are realizing they will face the upper Operational Risk in the United Kingdom. It seems that this is actually happening so i would agree that sputnik moment has and those of the special not come talk about the policy or the Coalition Forming can you expand on whats happening on that front . Yes. Companies are coming together. Relationship. At the end of the day the problem with open rand is the lack of investment coming from and that british lawmaker to omisinterpret the forces at the the Telecom Industry to accelerate the deployment so that means you will see open rand 5g radio in the market by the end of the year bg but with widespread deployment you have to get into production we are talking volume orders we need 10000 radios not ten. Thats the challenge we face today. If you really want to make efforts and that the could have threat that the your country competitive for the future, look at this as a hemisphere with a number of forces these are facts that are under consideration right now however brain can join the and workates Natural National strategic investment to stimulate that together on theoe 5g solution with policy. And then to help lead efforts to the worlds democracy. The group is coming the closer cooperation between together there is interesting conversation from the us G Administration with companies who are producers even anderson and nodu kia how that thes matters. So that decision is yours to make thank you again for sharing that perspective with this important decision. Ta thank you for those words. To start a high level if i may you mention the special plays out in the future there has been a little difference relationship a couple of times of debate how we get their license for the Us Government trying to get out of the way word you agree this pandemic and we do that by clearing spectrum they call led goldilocks and unfortunately that we are now in during has thats been held up for a long time so we finally b g got the c exposed in sharp relief the world order how riskaverse the west has come in the rise to agree on an auction and the chairman has done an excellent to have a very different job to open up that spectrum geopolitical agenda and then to help clear that up and i think youll get lots of investment if there is certainty right now we dont have enough certainty based on spectrumavav and this has been a circular firing squad for a long time we often talk about we dont invest because we cant get in we have no certainty so that is caddying cleared away that i think will allow the United States not to recalibrate their views what they have been doing in relation to hong kong and how might this lead us to the United States and britain going back to the only there is no intellectual collaboration of the Second World War. Property of value because the looking at the atlantic charter. No doubt the scales have value is in the software that fallen with the Chinese Communist behavior over the last six months. Going back to december beijing had knowledge how serious the lays over the gears to open radio clears out the spectrum virus was and kept the to allow us companies to bed here in the unitedanto states nw information and intimidated those to release that and continue to resist about the virus. And then to continue to do those things and then offering an honest opinion about these at t and verizon and interest on big players are interested like century link can participate that they information efforts and just could not before. In the lastes week they have im not as pessimistic. We are behind but once you unleash the hounds of American Innovation look out thats the wayyonthin not only match the ce crackdown. To try to repd but beat them in the near term. When you go back to the last industry the destruction that was based on the mobile platform and of course the four g network and in that case you could rely on consumers to buy the equipment and a platform that drove that industry the disruption. On the infrastructure side consumers dont drive infrastructure investment. Thats at the enterprise level. Ri and to determine the Business Model this is the chicken and an egg problem and an enterprise investmentum if you look at the number of sensors what that means and to states as the market power and to rewrite the international increase profitability that rules of order. Will drive the strength and thats the other side of a it. Thank you. And others are looking at secure 5g and how they protect the control plane and some for the u. S. Uk leadership in opportunity for to clear out the underbrush. The london world. I think there is no doubt about that and that is part of what this was about as the United Kingdom being able to because it seems to be the challenge but in relation but chart its own course and not have to reach the consensus but a couple of other different that british set up there is been questions from the uniteded nations with the greater freedom of action the United States i states over vocal and openend pressure from members of think has no doubt the u. S. And uk leadership once again would congress that huawai should be welcomed. Get out of the 5g many nations have used the fig conversation. Is it realistic for the government to make a fight. Commitment in the next couple into the origins of the virus of years . I do think it is possible and it wont happen overnight we and also a to cover it up. I think that a strong confident have those that have huawai to alliance will in fact be a gear in legacy systems that in fstrong leader for the free democracies of the world. The last decade they pick up is there anything they should quantities of huawai gear in the network it is expensive to do as far as the leadership is replace no doubt so here thetwor concerned to a . Just to go back to the topic Us Government is considering of the hearing the technology to help fund of rip and replace to help these companies rip and replace. That is all that certainty coming up in the fall. Changes so quickly its part of the problem of old faces there are those that are supported and we would like that to happen fast probably is not as fast as we would like i think printing could do the samen thing i think its exciting in order for 5g to work you have to have a functioning three g and four g. To try to develop open standards as the government suggested last week. You could see small and midsized and to mitigate the problem i businesses in the nations around know the answer is yes there the world you could compete and zo some Great Technology on the horizon. You would no longer have been i do believe beating our able to undercut those alternatives are. Friends over the head is not the best way to go about this its better toy o invite someoe to the dance i hope we would engage and the message that i its how we would ensure that it remains oriented around the democracy and capitalist economic principles. We talked about decisions wee that sends and says it doesnt really matter so what it will could because countries in do is make people make different relationships. Decisions on a heavily subsidized Chinese Government product that has ulterior motive because its cheaper would you say in the current that we should try and find a way forward. International decisionmaking. We are finding adoption because they dont want the international serviceng with the challenge organizations in particular are struggling to meet the challenge of china opposes. Thats important because they have worked so effectively to try to undermine and the central wanting to consider looking at what the policy should be i decisionmaking. Favor a standalone 5g network thats built alongside the if you look at the world health organization, for instance, and they have gone to the extent our existing networks because then you can take a clean sheet of paper from the ground up thats the only way youer can president decided the United States could no longer have the deploy the network if you try confidence to remain or look what happened two or three months ago right as the pandemic had started china was on the verge of electing a leader of to do it the other way you will constantly have security issues. Thank you for that. Thank you yourk chair. All things in the International Property organization when china was back as the worlds leading test of intellectual property. Now thanks to an effort by the government in yours and others we have an expression in we are able to run an effective scotland if you buy it cheap campaign. But it goes to showin you how assertive and effort theyve you buy it twice thats where taken in these International Organizations and even ifrg you brennan Northern Ireland are hanging right on headed right nowhe so high risk chinese look at the kind of proficiency have their that have been actively cultivated a new trade vendors and the networks. Concession and so forth i dont think theres much question china hasas some influence in would you agree with that. I agree with that 100 percent and if you goen back reducing effective and united to what chairman rogers talked about rip and replace i would decisionmaking among the free nations of the world. Advocate so when you spend especially if the north that money to invest that they atlantic. Its something our nations need to address. Are in production for with more bang for your buck and we we could say we are on the back foot of a lot of these. Could really do a good job if how would the unnamed we got together to stimulate organizations to be more fit for production because once you do that the investment will go a the un or the world trade lot harder until we get that organization . I think we have to recognize china is not a country led that committing them to the organization was a mistake or and if we were to basically you might call it a bad stimulate the five of us now you have a pool of radios you experiment that failed a long could maximize. Time ago. And i word argue again the commission made a mistake by granting permanent favored nation status. We all agree if we did those things if we admitted and treated china like an open capitalist economy it would be more open and unfortunately i think china has changed capitalism in many places around the world so we need to reassess whether it is the right thing to do to continue to allow the International Organizations to give such a large role of decisionmaking to the authoritarian government and in a state driven a common and until we face up to that reality i think that they continue the aftermath of world war ii. Here is the security standard for anybody that would lead to the purchasing to make the argument we know what they are doing they will make the trade argument that there is a cost to this and to find ways to punish use of my argument is we are agreeing the security standard and by the way with a caring concern we go through id like to echo the to make sure we got it right i like that approach so you are not buying 12. And you will regret it at some point then you have to figure out and that first start is less Stay Together lets buy sentiments that deserve better. In bulk and figure out a way to buy these networks in a way that drives down prices to help consumers. E. We couy the id agree with the decisions to the specifically president ial leadership and particularly as it withdraws from institutions such as the world health. Rganizations quickly. Its not that we dont trust other nations but as you know the challenge is that we do not have the links of relationships and the depth of rela