For the reunfix indication. A book you must read. I couldnt put it down. Jacob sharessing this disbelief and outrage and sense of duty on every pager. Go through this permanent honor explore the experiences of several families juxtaposed to the administration residents antics, denial brutal behavior that still managed to shock us. This isnt suppose to happen in america. Jacobs coverage clearly changed policy and help to reunite countless families. Katy tur hold don the fortunate msnpc at 2 00 p. M. Dailey. His drink book, unbelievable, i my front row seat to craziest American Campaign in history, documenting already tour of duty on the campaign trail and what happened to her is a she fact, checked and consistently reported the candidates lies. Katy and jacob will chat but separation and i urge you to by a copy now. We have many signed copies of the book and you can find our link at Writers Block presents. Com. Im delighted to woman katy tur and Jacob Soboroff and i only wish this were in person. I wish, too. Me, too. Thank you for everything. Hi, katy. High, jacob. Feel also the moderator here i get to introduce you. Jason soboroff, my drew g friend since growing up in los angeles, my partner on the swamp. A man who does not hoe how to to eat avocado toast appropriately. Joke. Your book is really impressive and i say that as member who used to compete withyou to be a reporter when we were 18 years old. You wrote one hell of a book, and it is really difficult to put down and also is really difficult to read at times. Almost wish i was reading it have not had a child. Might have meet it easier at times because any parent who reads this will feel it acutely. And im getting teared up even thinking about the passages. I want to start with where we are today because i feel like thats going to give us cop text for the rest of the book. Where do we stand with separated children . How many kids are still not reunite i with their parent inside. Ill answer that question in a second, indicateitch just want to say thank you to andrea and Writers Blocks. I. Going to your event with pam morrison when your book cam out, and i thought i have no idea how katy tur wrote a book. I dont know how to write a book. I dont know if i ever wrote a book, what would the book be about, and the first thing i should just say to all 470 people here which is remarkable and kudos to Writers Block to get everybody to come out digitally like this issue didnt know how to write a book so i called you and i by the way to everybody watching this is me and katy do this all the time just not with 470 people watching. Were best of friends, grew up together here in l. A. We competed against each other to become a reporter and katy won. I was doing resident carped for the amc channel and doing on youtube and doing things for l. A. Observe. Com, shoutout to kevin roderick, but you have been a mentor to me and do you remember what you said to me when i asked about writing the book. Just write. You told me i can what is called. Scrivener. Scrivener. It came in useful. I will get into the substance substance of that but i roast most of the book any laundry room because i couldnt get the wifi to work so at the last second i ran into the kitchen. So welcome to my kitchen. The answer to your question is we dont know. What we know is that 5,400 approximately children were taken systematically by the Trump Administration in what can only be described as an unprecedented abuse of the human rights of children and thats not me saying that. Thats the American Academy of pediatrics physicians for human rights tall it torture and says it pleaded the clinical definition of torture and did it on purpose. Around zero tolerance and 2800 kids were taken. Later found out in an investigation done by the Inspector General of health and Human Services that there were thousands more who were accounted for since the policy ended, another thousand children according to the aclu have been taken from their parents and the truth is that while most of the children in that initial batch of 2800 have been either reunited with parent order placed with a sponsor in the out because remember, 400 plus parents were depored without their children before they had the able to reunite we dont know they cant the aclu cannot even find all of the parents of the children who were taken and tried to link them up, and to the answer is, we dont know how many parents and children are ultimately still left to be reunited and because of shoddy Record Keeping we may never know and i write about that in the book. You also choose to tell the story about two men, father and son, juan and jose, not the real named but the names they give you to protect their identity and how they were separated at the borderment give me their story and where they are today. The first thing i want to say is theyre extraordinary people, just like every single one of the 5400 families that went through this together and that is every one of them has their own stepand every one of them win to a very similar experience but each and every one of them are extreme hi different people and jose and juan, the names they chose do protect themselves and fair almost in guatemala, came from place a critical corer to for narcotrafficking, all of the cocaine and other drugs coming to the United States pass through this region of guatemala, and give one way to know that it by the way i write about the in back we were once together and he said to me if you want to know whats going on in ben and wrote nark narcos and you see thousands or hundred ted very least of air strips built in the middle of the rain forest used as trafficking areas for cartels to bring drugs into the out and into the body of american consumers. So, long story short but juan and jose, this is a father and son just like me and my son. When i saw the picture of jose, he look just like me when i was a 12yearold hanging out in his dads store, i would hang out in my dads office, hair was slicked back, weaker cool sun glasses and an oversight to shirt and his father had come to the United States as a economic migrant to come and make money for his family i and return each time. Ultimately they get tangled up with narcos in their community that after juan sold a vehicle to someone, that vehicle was ended up in the hand of the nark code wanted juan to sign over the paperwork for the car. Wasnt able to do it because he no longer had the car and and the threatened his life and his sons life. So they came to the out where they thought representedcast security and their family could join thin and when the came into the United States, attempting to seek acai lime i that are were picked up and separated and put into different cells and didnt see each other again for nearly five months. Theyre together again now . Theyre back together again now. Still have the story now, theyre back together again. Thank god. And theyre together in walk area where jose is going to school and doing vocational classes and working learning to become an electrician and father juan is working in construction and i really do have come to love. The as friend. Ive seen when i was shooting american swamp i would see them and have dinner with them in the d. C. Area and the reason they wanted to participate in the book is because the same reason i did. They went through the bus had so many questions what happened and now and. The happen again and thats the same reason i decide to write the book. I have had conversations with people who work at the dhs and bored easterly patrol in this administration and the last administration, and theyre empathy for those crossing the border i limited. Its not necessarily just the Trump Administration. Theres a feeling among those who work at the border or work around the border that a lot of the migrants that come over and declare asylum arent telling the truth. In your experience, from the migrants you have spoken, to tell us what you can say about that. Its not true. The facts dont support that allegation. What theyre talking about is something specifically called fraudulent family units, basically people come, stake faking their a family, off shaped jose was by son but wasnt my son, it happens in a tiny fraction of the cases. They dont track and its not a co co incidence oomph animal saying it doesnt happen and certainly people take advantage of the asylum laws and come with children or figure out another way to get into the country but you dont take one of the most dangerous journeys in the world through some of omost dangerous places in world in order to come here and flip a coin and fake the fact you are coming for a better life. All you have to do is go talk to people along the border and its instantly recognizable the authenticity and the voracity of the stories and the idea that its not true, the idea that people are faking it, its just another talking point one of many talking points easily disprovable, like people coming across the border in large measure ms13. You heard from the president before i heard of it and you covered him on the campaign and a lot of this stuff just isnt true. Do you have a copy of the book in front of you. I do. Hold on. This is the book no are for earn who has not seen the cover. It there is. I want you do a reading. Think its interesting when i hear the words out of the writers mouth and this is your experience. If you could go to page 207. I want you do read page 207, 208, 209 start agent we were warned not to spike with the children and going until, and scott lloyd wanted was created. This is just to give some context. This is the chapter where i first went into a miss call casa padre, a former walmart, 250,000 square foot former woman. Walmart good converted nominal live into a shelter for Migrant Children. What happened was i dont if you remember jeff merkley the senator hat attempted to get into the facility, live streamed on facebook and was turned away. Around the time that separations were coming into the National Consciousness and truth of the matter i should say i didnt i didnt really see the separations coming. I had spent time covering the border but like is the wall needed or not. What this reality of deportation. And so when dish was working on a dateline hour long documentary and i was invited into the shelter to door it by a woman named katy waldman now named katy miller, married Stephen Miller but the main spokesperson for the department. I have a question on her later. Homeland security and she said to me, they were going to invite me into the place because they wanted journalists to chargize was was going on inside before democratics on a congressional delegation were able to go. In waldman ranked for know fly down to brownsville and to get into the shelter, and so i did. When i got there i had no idea what to expect. So once he was inside this is the part you asked me to read. We were in a basically a spa, you back in and its like tile floor and somebody behind the desk, its. So here we go we were warned not to speak with any of the children. With that the door opened into the cavernous facility. All i could see were young boys everywhere i looked. Jotted down what i expo what i was thinking in spiral note book while hi head was on a with. Didnt look down at the note book as i wrote and my hand writing suffered for it. True. If the boys werent sitting in chairs along walls waiting noth a room or sitting at cafeteria style table, they were in line to eat. In their hands were trays holding oreo cookies, apple sauce, jello, chicken, and mashed potatoes. I was walking side by side with alexia rodriguez, lawyer for the facility. When i expressed amazement at what waft is wag see without skipping a beat she told me and another reporter near her, the smile at the kids because, quote they feel like animals in a cage being looked at. I think she realized how truthful she had just been because she immediately said she didnt want that comment to be on the record which of course is not how that works. In fairness to rodriguez, cames was the wrong word there were none here which i found important to note of senator merkley used the phrase but a Border Patrol facility which led to confusion online. Rodriguez was bright, though. The kids were looking at us with a deer in the the headlights gate. A group of ten reporters with note pads chronicling in the detail as we were herded like animals through the facility. As we continued walking she explained that all of the approximately 1500 kids would neat a twohour window rotating. Disobeying orders i couldnt help saying hello, asking the churn how they were doing with my limited spanish. As we were shepherded to an area where boys lined up to take a shower and the rooms where the slept i notice heed the first of many quotes on the wall there observe good faith and justice towards all nations. With craned heads we look inside one of the 313 bedrooms. Five twin beds were arranged like puzzle pieces that fit into the small room. We are were told five beds her room was unusual. Garcia,. The executive program director, told me these extra cots were coat what the facility revved may around the time zero toll rasp was announce bid attorney general sessions if looked over at ryan, the former Trump Campaign aide and now senior director of Communications Media realizations for the administration for children and families, and asked him if he had he ever been here before he hadnt, he admitted. Pretty nice, he quipped. Not what i was thinking. As we continued walking we passed by the cav kavanaugh fear ya. I noticed there would a mural of President Trump the testified the length of the entire wall. Incredulous i read the quotes they accompanied the mural. Sometimes losing a battle you fine a new way to win the war. I walked away. Wound through narrow hall weapons, along one wall i saw a phone which signage made clear was for the young boys who came theirive they wanted to leave a compliant outside of the building. Next to the phone was a piece of paper with names of local Service Organizations children could call for help. The Child Advocacy children, Child Abuse Center advocacy organization, the valerie baptist medical center, and the Legal Services agency for children and adults in immigration detention. Almost as fast as could i register what kind of here rosier might come pale child to pick up the child call a service, we came spoon a roo, a bayerner barber shop. I tried to stay focused. Couldnt shake the phone booth and went back to see it, a second time. At one point i asked a staffer, how separated families would ultimately reunite. After families are apprehended testify border and children taken from apart its was told the department of Homeland Security sends intake emails noting the child we transferred he officer of refugee reset littlement was receiving a child complete thursday intake process in 24 hours after first providing a shower and food. Let me keep going just to the next paragraph because its important. It was during the intake process i learn that case managers would generally find out out separations and then notify other relevant agencies they were parents for a separated child this also how the list that jim de la cruz was keeping and scott loyd wanted gone was created. To thats important. That last paragraph. And first off just that description, and only got worse from the other facilities that were toured and as we learn that it wasnt older kids that were being separate but what they called the euphemism tender age, babies. There was dining room remember reading a headline when i was an Maternity Leave and i burt out crying, and its been a year of a theyre who was had his fourmonthold ripped from his hands and that he would they would be erue fighted on the plane if the got tone plane and he got on the many and never brought his baby. Tell me why this paragraph, which ends with scott lloyd wanted gone, the list that scott lloyd wanted go, who is scott lloyd and what list did he want gone . Scoot lloyd was the director of the office of Refugee Resettlement, thing a did i mentioned the administration of children and families, foes health and Human Services, administration for children and families, office of Refugee Resettlement, and the office of Refugee Resettlement is the custodian of all the unaccompanied Migrant Children in the custody of the federal government. So he was the caretaker, the legal guardian of the 10,000 plus kids, many of which came on their own, but hundreds, thousands of which were separated from their family. He was their guardian. And what i just read to you happened on june 13th, 2018. I was on the air with you the next day issue remember, and in april, april 20th if im not mistaken an article came out in New York Times by kaitlin dickerson, an extraordinary reporter and bombshell expo say that said 700 children we tone know number hundred children had been taken from their parents by thank you Trump Administration. By the Trump Administration and the article wasabissed on a list that leaked from the office of refugee revoltment, an informal list track the situation from children parents because we were told wasnt happening and top officials, career officials not scott lid he was a trump appointed official, kept asking questions. Were seeing numbers tick up, wearing reports from case managers like the ones i described, these kids are earning up unaccompanied, basically rendered unaccompanied and when this happened, scott lloyd was beside himself. He was angry and embarrassed the list leaked to media and his firth thought was to get rid of the list, not to how to protect the children he was warned he muss do. Is instinct was to get rid of the list so in a meeting the list was kept by the gentleman, jim de la cruz and other career officials. In this meeting at orr,