The minority in the house, he works closely with president reagan about being real positive change in america, according to his new book, trump and the american future, solving the great problems of our time, despite of the coronavirus and the highs and lows of the economy and onto the election, 2020 will continue to be a process of change, he is here to discuss his book in his thoughts on america. We now invite you to enjoy our Virtual Program coming to you from air force one academy oval office with Newt Gingrich and Reagan FoundationInstitute Executive director john hi bush. Speaker gingrich, just terrific to have you with us at the Reagan Library, as you know we originally had planned to have you, i want you to know and we would still love to have you at the Reagan Library again with your new book, thank you so much for joining us today. Im going to say first of all im a huge fan of the Reagan Library and particularly the educational work that you do in a way that you create learning experiences for young people and i do not remember a time that we did not have a wonderful experience, i assure you as soon as im allowed to get back to the west coast i will be dropping in the simi valley. Terrific. We would love to have you. Ive known you for years, you are an intellectual, you are historian, youre an imaginative guy, i wonder though mr. Speak mr. Speaker, could you have ever imagined a situation like the world in the United States finds itself in today, could you imagine a pandemic literally stopping the world in its tracks during your lifetime . Now, when i first started writing trump in the american future, it was at the peak of great economics, lowest black unemployment in modern history, lowest latino on employment, everything was going well, we were negotiating with the chinese but it seemed irrational and then boom you start the chinese virus and now given a different name for political reasons, then you go the first time ive ever seen countries deliberately created depression and then you go to politicians deciding what you can and cannot do, then you go to people being totally fed up, isolated, worried economically in the tragic death of george floyd and all the sudden it seems to come apart at the seams. Could i have imagined putting all of that together, i think the answer is no. Ive written a bunch of novels, i dont know i wouldve had the imagination to put them on, people said it was not believable and they also had impeachment in all sorts of things, the turmoil in some ways resembles the late 1960s except that the left is better organized and more to toilet. Then it was in the late 60s, first one kind of turmoil. Event in the 60s, i was trying to think back to the closest experience that america has had in the last century to what is facing today and when the pandemic initially arrived people are comparing 2007 2008. , i thought about and i wanted your view on whether or not you think its been since world war ii and attack on pearl harbor in a nation literally mobilized in a very different way of course. I think that might be the closest experience we have head to the present day. I have written things for publication in the white house saying this is the largest mobilization effort since world war ii, in fact i wrote a piece which turned out to be unusually impactful because i was over here united seen a building from six weeks before washington and i wrote a piece and said whatever youre planning to do, triplet, because you dont understand how big this is going to get because they knew i was here and actually change a conversation and to their large bills a passive efforts to stabilize the economy. It is a really big challenge right now and i think its compounded because we are probably as politically divided as we have been in a long time, i have a good friend at a civil work destroying in princeton who says the language used to attack trump resembles the slaveowning newspaper of South Carolina attacking lincoln in 1867 in the nastiness and the degree of hatred and even our friend said you never got the love of kind of things youre getting about trump. That all aids into this, heidi mobilized the country for the country itself and a lot of people as we found, a lot of people all of a sudden you dont have to worry about social distancing as long as you are ideologically pure and doing the right things. Its a very strange and complicated time. In fact a core theme that seems to me your newest book that america finds itself in a cultural civil war but i know you two are civil war historian, i wonderfully explain that. We were a newsletter entitled three generations of brainwashing, the core of the newsletter is reagans farewell address where he says the one thing he most deeply regret is not been able to institutionalize teaching patriotism in American History and is really worried that were used under losing the ability to talk to ourselves of who we are and that happens at the country actually start to disappear. I think when you go back and read it you realized he gave in january of 1989, he said amazingly pressing where we are today, partly i suspect because as governor of california and with the radicals of berkeley, he had a pretty good instinct for how bad it was going to be. And were in a cultural civil war, we have people with a malice view on how to organize and treat other people, we clearly have people we despise america and when you refuse to stand for the national anthem, its not because youre repeating, its because youre repudiating the United States, you have a large number of people today, almost like the radical generation of the 60s that has now had almost 50 years to grow and strengthen and gather more force so in that sense, i think we are in a very deep cultural war which will many ways have a huge effect on our country with what would become over the next halfcentury. In fact i look pretty closely and you turn the book into your publisher early midmarch, and as a pandemic and struck in a major way, this book was written pregeorge floyd. We do have a chapter on poverty in the chapter of the big cities that relates to this, we probably dont have the strongest chapter as we should have on the question of race in america and we already had to redo the book once for colin and one for the selfimposed depression, was pretty loud, it was the most complicated book ive ever heard. Its a magnificent book, you color a waterfront, its amazing and its to remember the back half of the book, you cover all the ground, it is great to see, i bet had you written the book or finished it next week for example, you would double down on your thinking of this being a cultural civil war because of the addition of this issue over racism and george floyd. I do a podcast every week and they do newsletters, i did a series recently but i would say for me, im too much of an intellectual, the really big moment was when the New York Times reporters forced the firing of the editor because he had published an oped by conservative senator and i thought if we got to a point of tierney on the left where one conservative opinion piece in a virtually total leftwing newspaper was so such an active piercy that the man who admitted had to be basically fired and then i watched a principal in vermont and he found his 97 white and tweeted should all lives matter and the following day she was fired, then in your part of the woods there was a professor of ucla who read Martin Luther king jr. Letter from the birmingham jail and then was suspended, how could it offend somebody on the left to ring kings letter which is about nonviolence and he was very much saying to america you have to live up to the great dream that you have, none that wants to repudiate america. Look at all about and you think this is truly a cultural civil war in the black lives matter is popular right now because its a slogan but if you look at the organization which is one of the exclusive goals, the destruction of the nuclear family, why do they want to destroy the nuclear family, im not sure, its irrationally socially and guaranteed step towards weakness but it is in their and you realize that the people who founded black lives matter are antiamerican in the sense that they wanted totally different america and they want to replace the america we exist today. The other example with the somalia background, how you can leave this for minneapolis and have a ride rather than gratitude is one of the great things worth studying, she left the society which is a disaster, dominated, people starving, no sense of individual opportunity, very impressive behavior for women, come to the freest most open society of the world and she is angry, i look at that and i dont get it, you think id be curious im trying to get a friend of mine that she really think it is better than minneapolis, because she behaves like a terrible injustice. A conversation in a debate in the discussion about issues of racism, i wonder what to think about the evolution of the argument on the left where the systemic racism is a concept of your races but you just dont know it. First of i think you have to acknowledge that africanamericans more than any other Group Experience in very famous africanamericans and from South Carolina introducing the bill on Police Reform says he was stopped six times last year. , hes a u. S. Senator. I think we have to start by acknowledging it is more challenging being black and there are inherent difficulties to overcome. And then it comes as a releasable test, is it more important for blacks to succeed or for whites to feel guilty . For some bizarre reason, the left has decided that announcing your guilty and feeling bad about being guilty and taking any when you are guilty. I said in an interview yesterday, it would be a lot more sympathetic to the wealthy millionaires, nfl players who want to take any if they each went out and founded a Charter School and actually helped children to succeed. Im totally unimpressed by people who america labeled billionaires and now want to impose on the rest of us their particular viewpoint, we needed a conversation in the nice thing about the left, they cannot contain themselves and because they own the news media, they have no Feedback Mechanism to say youre not, for example the California Assembly just passed by 656 5 creating reparations which is the number one goal of the black caucus in the california legislature. Reparations is both morally and mechanically the focus and its a fight that the left will lose badly but they just have to do it, they cannot stop themselves, pelosis 3 trilliondollar bill includes creating 1200 per person for every illegal immigrant in the United States as part of the stimulus, thats overreach on a scale which is 7l disagree and they go through item after item so if they had some ability to be self disciplined theyd probably be more dramatically dangerous if they are. Iva galley copy of the book i think your title was initially trumped in the american future, building a better american future and as a book hit the shelves they change the title and updated it to solving the great problems of our time, tell me why that shift is there. I felt as if i looked at all the things were emerging that we needed to shift to another problemsolving, in the world before the pandemic and before the depression, is easier to imagine trump really continuing to solve things in a way that is amazing. Now in a situation so complicated in so many different unknown parts that were all going to have to pitching to solve it, i dont think trump by himself can be the solution, i think he can lead the solution but it will take millions of americans to get us out of the ditch. I know youve commented on this before because your a historian but now we see an acceleration of this phenomenon, that is that the left believes we could improve the future by destroying the past the rush to not the civil war monuments but the monuments of american president s in the revolution, i comment on that and what is happening in America Today on that front. Again i think part of this is where were heading, one reason i wrote the article on the three generations of brainwashing is we have lots of people who are so badly educated but they dont understand and how much simply there during a street dance redone before, we had the french revolution and we had the Russian Revolution of 1970, we know how these things work, if they could read they could read not just 1984 but they could read and they would understand, actually in the brigade in the spanish civil war stalin decided to wipe it out. He has seen up close he had was a lenient hitler and its very significant that he put them in britain, he is not describing moscow, he said the tendency of the society will be a totally false story to have a memory hole of which does not fit the story and reserve the right to restore whenever it wants to, thats what these people are doing, where does it start, grade doesnt stop. For example, should the suffrage of probably almost all who believe a traditional marriage, therefore have the statues pull down because they were adequately sensitive to 100 years later would emerge as a gateway, the idea that washington who more than any other Single Person created the framework within which people could say their rights came from god or that jefferson actually wrote the words, these people are anything less then historically astonishing figures who advance the cause of human freedom, its an absurdity. But what youre dealing with is a mob, a mob has no mind, it has a motion and it does not understand that it setting up patterns that are totally unacceptable and i think very, very dangerous. And by the way in seattle, washington, the middle of all of this, there is a 7foot tall statue of lenin which was put their years and years ago, some guy bought it when it was being thrown away. I dont eject to it being there because i think its a great opportunity to teach people what a monster he was and how many peoples lives were destroyed by but in some people think this is crazy, but as both an active cultural warfare and act of proving that they have the energy to drive the courage and just to see it as both things coming together in is a very, very dangerous pattern in three generations we told lies and reagan said it isnt what they dont know that is so troubling, its what they know that isnt true, i think that is what we are seeing today. I would like to touch for just a second on the rest of that. President trump would make it a point that he won fair and square and whether russia set up a site and that sort of thing and i wondered if you think at the present time the america in this cultural civil war without knowing it. The russians are intentionally stoking these fires in trying to set americans against themselv themselves. I think they are, its a very long historic tradition of countries meddling in other countries and weve been the dominant country now for long enough. That there are people who naturally resent us and like to knock us off, i feel the chinese more than i feel the russians, both of my suspects are involved, i went back and read clark crisler 44 page memo for harry truman in 1947 it was an amazing document, he will routinely talk about communist, this was before, they say this union is communist or that mayor is a communist, that is what it was, he was not doing anything about it necessarily but its easy to forget in the 30s there was enough not to penetration that the House Committee originally was set up to go after the notches, not the communist, after world war ii there was enough communist that they were going after communist, and they were told you not allowed to do that so we had to lie about whether the communist and one of the reason reagan found the politics was his awareness that the communist youth. I look at all of that and they can try to interfere, they might be able to some ways cope and they might centralize elections because it makes stuff easier, right now elections are run down at the county level in its chaotic and it has huge disadvantages but its really hard to read, it is to decentralized, on the other hand messages on twitter or facebook or what have you or and, them a russian tv station and total penetration i dont think there is a comparable chinese newspapers. I just think its the nature of the modern world and this of course was a huge fight in washington when they sent people over to get us to the antibritish you can. In the long history that is good that the administration with teams to work on this, i think we had an amazingly competent attorney general in a very serious and dedicated patriot. I suspect we will be okay on that front. I worry much more about the democrats scaling the election as they do in california from boat harvesting the chinese and russians. Is it fair to say that prepandemic you likely felt that this race in 2020 was President Trumps to lose but now maybe not so much as he really has a rough side on his hands . I think what i first set out to write the book i thought trump had a very substantial advantage in a wooded set at the time. I think now its up in the air. But i think it depends on part of what happened, if the economy comes back the people feel like we see help, then i think the president has a huge opportunity to win. If the economy stumbles and it feels like whatever trumps magic was nutty and got anywhere then i think theres a problem. The challenge for the democrats i did a news article the other day on biden, Schumer Pelosi as a machine when i said this is not of election between President Trump and President Biden its an election between President Trump in the machine of which biden is the weakest of the three. Enjoy number of friends called me and said there really scared them, they start thinking about what biden pelosi and schumer with no supervision. It would be wild. I think for the moment of truth ironic, biden is a candidate who is so weak that the longer he can hide the better off he is. Joy think the morning he starts campaigning as he ever does, it would be so painful to watch his inability to function that i think he could melt pretty quickly. He made a poin