Your thoughts on the Supreme Court in the response to the coronavirus pandemic. The Virtual Event in newspapers, americas road ahead i am mike allen and cofounder, welcome to my home in arlington virginia, i will be joined by the morning podcast of today. We would like to thank the bank of america for making these conversations possible and thank you for joining us on the many platforms of the events, we would love for you to follow along on twitter, our first guest is senator tim kaine of the commonwealth of virginia one of only 30 people of American History who serve their neighbors as mayor, governor and United States senator and how is this for a fun fact, i have been senator keynes can situate as richmond mayor and governor and now is my senator, senator kaine, welcome. It is great to be back together talking to you. We talked about how election day is now election month, i saw some pictures of you earlier in the county, my old stomping grounds outside of richmond voting and you are out there with congresswoman abigail stan berger and since there is a numbers for early voting off the chart, what do you make of that. I think virginia might be leading the nation starting in person voting on the 18th of september, male were returned by the 18th of september, people understand that stakes are so high the selection i think you will see a dramatic increase in turnout over four years. And second because people are worried about the pandemic and coronavirus, they like having more options about how to vote and they feel like early voting or voting by mail may give them the ability to vote to keep them safe or, high stake in Health Concern has driven people to want to spread their boat out in virginia of the 45 day window and boat at the same time. Is it clear that the massive waves surge of early mailing voting benefits joe biden in senator harris or is that a story yet to be written. You cannot be 100 sure, heres what we think is beneficial, when people vote early the party gets information about whose ballot has been returned, obviously they dont get information about how the ballots had been cast but we know whos have been returned, what parties do in virginia and elsewhere, we give everybody a score to how likely they are to be democrat or republican voter, when we see boats coming back we can see what percentage of the votes are likely going to be for joe and kamala law or President Trump and mike pence. What weve seen in virginia and elsewhere, is a dramatic uptick in people who we would think would be on the democratic side and thats a suggestion of energy, we always want the voting early to give us an indication of energy and that is usually a pretty solid bit of evidence to predict the outcome. You and i remember when virginia was a swing state, there was a brief window when it was going to be the new ohio, virginia was safe. We remember more of a time when it was in a competitive state at all, was so red, in 2012 and then maybe thought to be in 2016 but you are right, by now 2020 is seems, i will say this, i dont think were a rock solid blue states, where light blue state trending blue, i think the republicans to nominate a president ial candidate that would put virginia into play is just Virginia Republicans are not trump republicans, they dont like the loud bullying bluster, that is not virginia style, donald trump would not be a rub publican and never put virginia and play, the democrats cannot think we have to lock on the state right now, i dont think were relatively close to the midpoint. What kind of a republican could throw virginia into play. Ill give you example from 2016 when i was watching the primary with all the republican candidates on stage, i thought of marco rubio or jeb bush could potentially have done well and virginia but that was an election where there were too many people swimming in that lane of the pool and they ended up taking each others votes, marco rubio did pretty well on Election Night in the primary virginia 2016 but remember john kasich was still in the rank and dropped out shortly thereafter, he had been out in rubio couldve one read enter Virginia Republican party, that republican can still play strong its both in virginia and nationally that doesnt seem to be the kind of person that gets a republican nomination. Senator kaine you got to enjoy the Vice President ial debate a little more this time around four years ago the tickets were made with secretary hillary clinton, we have a little clip to remind you of this weeks debate. In 18 i would like to to answer the question. Im speaking in 1864. [laughter] it sound like you enjoyed that moment as much as i did, that was my favorite moment of the debate i read about it in my first dispatch and i am speaking, you know senator harris very well as a colleague and a friend, tell us about what that moment told us about her. The reason she said it twice was like robert in the poem and miles to go before i sleep and miles to go before i sleep. It has two meanings, the first one is my turn in the second time she said it, its almost the history, icom of the harrison africanamerican woman, of south asian dissent, icom of the harris, the child of immigrants, this is my turn now and that is a great thing for america that in the selection we have Kamala Harris on the ticket and thats why she said it two different ways with the very proud smile on her face. I love that moment to. Senator kaine you talk to her about the role, what advice did you give, the privilege of traveling with you as a Vice President ial nominee and you treated it as a greatest road trip ever. I was never in a rock band going to 140 cities in 41 states in 105 days thats the closest ill get and i met so many wonderful people, that part is amazing, if i said, love gives us more advice about the job itself, everything about the job is joe biden, i were close to joe when he was Vice President versus the governor in the first term and a senator in the second term and im 100 learned three powerful things about the role. A Vice President will speak truth to power. Look the president in the face and give the most candid advice, you saw, they do that on stage and she sure going to do it privately and joe biden is confident enough to want that, number two you do that privately, you dont do it publicly, joe biden never let there be public disagreement between he and barack obama even though there was private disagreement, you keep the disagreements private but the third thing i learned that was really interesting and joe told us this once, when i disagree with the president youll never see it publicly but i asked the president to respect me, dont make me to fail if i disagree with you, by give you advice and you decide to go another direction have somebody else be the person because i cant be effective if my heart is not in it. Those three rules, candid advice, keep it private, asked the president dont make me go out and sell something, i think those things make the relationship work while joe is such a great vp to barack obama and i think, law will follow those rules and be a great partner to president obama. I know you dont lead to any conclusions but there are signs out there of a blue wave signed that democrats could take back the senate in the house if we do have a unified government and all democratic government, what could you imagine getting done, people are used to washington not working but with all democrats, washington was suddenly work. We want to and we have to show people that they can account down on their institutions to produce, the first thing we will have to do President Trump this week called off all the discussions of a fifth covid bill, people are still hurting, the economy, family, our healthcare sector need more work, if we havent got a fifth bill, significant one by Inauguration Day we need to do that out of the gate to try to rescue the economy as much as joe bidens Vice President having worked with president obama do the same thing in 2009. I think people will want to see the things democrats have talked about for years, immigration reform, background background checks, raising the minimum wage, lgbtq equality in the nation civil rights statute. One of the things we talk about that we are not supposed to do it, we want to see them quickly move to address these issues, i also want to see the administration do some things that they can do and rejoin the paris climate afford to fight to rescue the climate over planet. Senator a quick question, you said you thought it was reckless for republicans to plunge ahead with the Supreme Court confirmation of judge Amy Coney Barrett before people vote, it certainly looks like its headed that way, youre one of the democrats to confirm or for the Circuit Court of appeals will contain your votes im going to vote under any circumstances before election day because the republicans promised us in the American Public that we should let the Public People decide who is the president and who is the senate before we fill a vacancy, im going to hold them to their word and oppose anyone, saying we get way past the election and judge baer is the nominee, at that point in going to look at her as a judge on the seventh circuit, she had no record as a judge when i voted but she did have a solid record as an academic, now she has a record as a judge, for me, the key issue would be the opinion that shes written as an appellate judge and what Comfort Level i have having read that that she would follow precedent then rather to overturn precedent to accomplish the goals. Who wouldve thought in the year of years a huge political issue would be big ten football and you had a hearing on college sports, what if you learn, tell us an interesting. What ive learned as i was saddened, i guess i shouldve known this at age 62 and how much of the decisions is driven by the desires to make tv money rather than the health of the youngsters, any young football player, they might get to play next year but the money from the schools is so powerful that i frankly worry that his overriding factor in we know were risking Young Peoples Health and sadly this year we are risking it into a virus and it seems to me and it made me very sad. We cannot and on a downer, you are shut down, with the new tradition that you have, a new workout, what have you done to make good use of your shutdown. Two things my wife and i were together and wrote together a lot more than we normally are, we try not to repeat, weve gone through every park, cemetery Civil War Battlefield that we can find in the other thing i did this summer, i rode my bicycle from North Carolina to the northern tip of virginia on the Blue Ridge Parkway with a friends trip that we did 25 years ago to see if we still hadnt enough in the hadnt enough. I love it, could not be a better way to end senator kaine ill look forward to seeing you on the trail maybe more than one time and thank you for joining. Always good, take care. Taking to bank of america for making these conversations possible and now we will see a video from the bank of america. The racial and economic disparity that have long existed in this country have only been widened by the coronavirus and amplified by the most recent attacks. 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You on the Judiciary Committee, you will be the center of the fight for the confirmation of judge Amy Coney Barrett but you have a much more personal view for the court than most everyone else was going to be here, you were a law clerk to cheeschief Justice Roberts and d in the building. I did work in the building its been a number of years ago and one of my first jobs out of law school i actually met my wife doing that. It was a good year for me, we got married after our year of working together on the court and i got to see that court up close and personal and ive gotten to litigate, i am a member of the bar of the courts, it is a place that i know relatively well. How is the chief justice. The chief justice is a very good boss, he runs his team with great efficiency and the federal judiciary, one of the jobs that minister the federal judiciary as a whole which he does very, very efficiently and he is a terrific terrific boss to work for. Senator giving our viewers a little preview of the confirmation hearings, i want to see whether or not democrats make attacks on judge barrett and thats an area where you plan to be tough, tell us your stance on not questioning. They already have, they have been attacking judge barrett left and right, they started three years ago at her first confirmation hearing with senator durbin and interrogated her faith and asked her if she was an orthodox catholic. This senator coronel said she was worried judge barrett would be a catholic judge as opposed i dont know what, an american judge, you had senator feinstein say the dogma lives loudly and judge barrett, osler on her religious beliefs, unfortunately we seen a pattern from democrats over the years not just with judge barrett but other judges before the committee where they interrogated and often times catholics but various believers of all stripes interrogating them about their membership in religious groups like the knight of columbus was, that harris has done this as shes gone after nominees based on their membership in catholic groups, this is really coming down to an attempt to impose a religious test that article six of the constitution explicitly says cannot be applied in this country, its a form of religious bigotry, democrats have been trafficking in this bigotry for too long and its time for every single one of the democrats on the Judiciary Committee to renounce it and to pledge that they will abide by the constitution and they will not seek to impose, silence is not enough, after the years of a trafficking in bigotry and unconstitutional, its not enough to go silent, most of them are doing worse and that theyre continuing to question her faith, silence is not enough, senator harris in particular since she has been an offender and trafficked in the antireligious attacks, she needs to leave the charge and say she was wrong to go after nominees of the basis of their faith and she needs to say she was wrong to impose a religion and she and her colleagues need to pledge that they will not do it, i want to hear that out of their mouths from every Judiciary Committee member. Not just avoiding it but youre going to headed off as the past my grandma would say what are you going to do to insist that Democratic Senators are renouncing or what will you do to push or pressure them. Call them out, ive already sent a letter to senator schumer which he ignored or where i called on democrats to renouncing the tax which they have ignored and they are continuing to traffic in these attacks and were seen story after story, the democrats are preaching to the press about Amy Coney Barretts religious faith in catholic upbringing and catholic way of life and how she raises her family and on and on and on, it is ridiculous, its outrageous, she says senator her row no said amy baratz faith and commitment to her faith gave her serious pause how she would rule on the bench, it is ongoing and im going to call it out every single opportunity and im going to call on democrats to renounce it, they should be able to say they would abide by the constitution in article six which says no religious for judgment, that ought to be good enough, it should not be hard to say they will adhere to that standard in silence is not enough, silence is acquiescence, liberty trafficked in the stereotypes in the bigotry, they pretty pushed it for years so now its not enough to go silent, they need to say they were wrong and they need to pledge to abide by the constitution. Senator i see youre gonna keep the hearings, you mention senator harris who will be in the spotlight, the prominent members of the Judiciary Committee in the spotlight this week in the Vice President ial debate with Vice President pence, were gonna play a quick clip and then we will talk about it. Vice president pence, have you had a conversation or reached an agreement with President Trump about safeguard or procedure when it comes to the issue of president ial disability, if not do you think you should, you have to minutes without interruption. Thank you although i would like to go back. I think we need to move on. Thank you i would like to go back, the reality is, were going to have a vaccine in