[inaudible conversations] [inaudible conversations] [inaudible conversations] the house will come back to order and we will resume the 5minute question and answer period. I would like to ask unanimous consent to enter into the record a statement from secretary bill sack from september 25th stating the program a federally funded program ministered by the states will expire for 7,000 children if the Government Shutdown. Reporter without objections ordered. Chair recognizes Mister Fallon from texas for five minutes. Thank you, mr. Chairman. Words mean things, or at least they should. Heres President Bidens words from august 20th, 2019. First of all, i have never discussed with my son or my brother or anything else having to do with their business. September the same year i have never spoken to my son about his overseas business dealings, october same year, quote, i dont discuss business with my son. Were President Bidens words true . They were false. Why did he lie repeatedly . In an interview in 2019 with the new yorker, even hunter admitted he talked to his dad about business, specifically burisma. Many of Hunter BidensBusiness Associates have testified President Biden met with them. The ones closest under, rob walker and devon archer were among them. They not only spoke, they took a lot of Business Associates took photos with them, they played golf with him, President Biden gave them white house stores, wrote letters of recommendation for their children and shared fancy dinners as well. Lets talk about patterns. Russians, they were married, russian oligarchs billionaires, the Us Ambassador to russia being corrupt. Wired 3. 5 million to hunter biden soon thereafter. Who did she have dinner with . Vice President Joe Biden. Kazakhstan nationals, Prime Ministers now in prison. Wires one hundred 42,300 to hunter biden, the next day hunter biden buys a porsche for one hundred 14,300 and who do you think he has dinner with . Than Vice President joe biden. The ceo and cfo of burisma, Us Ambassador to ukraine calls this poster child of corruption, those fellows paid the Shell Companies a total of 3. 3 million. Who do you think because rc had dinner with . Say with me, Vice President joe biden. And piles of catch the bidens, and he is one expensive dinner date and if thats not selling political access, i dont know what is. My democratic colleagues reported nausea when they talk to the media theres no direct evidence licking President Biden to his sons crimes. This is fd 1023 which is used by the fbi when confidential informants give them information, this 1023 is only as good as the source. It could be garbage or gold, the fbi describes this source as someone who is highly reliable and trustworthy. They work with them for over a decade and paid one hundred thousand dollars what he has given to them always checked out. This is gold. Consider this with weight and gravity. What does this say . Dont know what the confidential informants name is. Ivan is not his real name but ivan describes how hes mitigated in a confidential conversation that they hired a not so smart hunter biden to protect us, quote, through his dad from all kinds of problems. Then ivan speaks directly to ceo key who confides that hunter biden will take care of those corruption issues through his dad. He is being investigated by ukrainian prosecutor, joe biden begins to call for his removal. Bought ivan is also told it cost 5 million to pay one biden and 5 billion the other, rect evidence of naked corruption and bribery. Alsoitted that both bidens board, keep in mind these were confidential conversations. Also interesting that he referred to biden as the big guy. I doubt he knows tony boblinsky. When he was fired, the ukrainian president admitted in a phone call to none other than joe biden, he didnt do anything wrong but on your behalf, aid that was being withheld was given to ukraine. Lastly after he was fired, hunter biden and other members of the burisma board wrote a letter to the new prosecutor demanding the investigation into zoczevsky ended and it did. In your experience in financial investigations you file them follow the money. If you were investigating this and looking at 5 million payments from burisma to joe biden what Information Patterns would you be looking for . I would want to know who, what, when, where and why, why is the money moving, what is it for, what is the substance behind it, talk to people, look at documents and talk to people. Thats what we doing investigations which everybody in this chamber if they were ceo of a company anthon money moving like that in their own company they would want to get to the truth and find out why that money is moving, why is somebody paying that money out. Those are the questions we need to get to the bottom of. Unanimous consent request. I would like to enter into the record a july 9, 2016, letter from three burisma board members, to yuri ruzenko, there was concern that he had initiated an investigation into burisma. Without objections so ordered. Chair recognizes mr. Casar. I would like to begin with a quote. The people of america elected all 435 of us to do the things they expect congress to do, real business not theater. Try to have a prescript and drug reform legislation this year. But instead, the Majority Party is conducting baseless impeachment hearings. Is conducting baseless impeachment hearings. And who do we think said this quote . Was it nancy pelosi . Maybe the Ranking Member, jamie raskin . Mr. Chairman, you may recognize the quote because in 2019 you saying impeaching donald trump was political theater. Trump was first impeached for attemptingim to extort a foreign president into helping the Trump Presidency campaign and if he didnt consider that criminal, how about when trump was impeached trying to overthrow the results of the president ial election . And then inside of a violence insurrection against the government. So if you thought that impeaching trump was political theater, then what would you call this . This, this is a disgrace and i hope that someday Top Republican officials will find some integrity. In the case of trump because you fear his social media wrap, rightwing official will deny all evidence against trump come hell or high water. But in the case of President Joe Biden you decide to start impeaching out and figure out the whole evidence thing later. And you still have figured it out. De your own republican calledd Witnesses Today say they dont see the evidence to impeach president joes biden. Under this competitor that but they said they dont see the evidence to impeach joe biden. That is a disgraceful double standard. A damages our democracy, insults institution of congress and more than anything disgraces this body in the eyes of the american public. This inquiry is a cynical attack attempt to tar everyone come to make everyone look suspect, make everyone look corrupt so that voters give up and say theres not much difference here. Butre we cannot give up on discerning truth from propaganda. We cannot give up on our collective governance. Congress is a place where historically people of enormous integrity have throughout history taken on big challenges of inequality, injustice, instability. We cant and must impartially look at the evidence before us and that equal justice under the law. And the evidence before shows no wrongdoing by President Biden. St we haveev seen that evidence testimony today. Your own republican called witnesses have said they havent seen that kind of evidence. There is separate evidence that supports indictments unrelated indictments against his son hunter and multiple indictments spanning 91 criminal charges against former President Trump. I for one am grateful we have an independent judicial system where a president son or a former president s like trump can be investigated and prosecuted if they violate the law. It is my firm belief that hunter and trump should both face trial, and if guilty, be held accountable for the crimes of the been accused of. Can everyone on the Oversight Committee say the same thing . Will members of the Oversight Committee please raise your hand if you believe both hunter and trump should be held accountable for any of the indictments against them, ifof convicted bya jury of theirir peers . We can take a minute. No, its serious. This is a serious matter. If yall need to think about it we can take a moment and think about it. It is serious. This is very serious. Think about it. Should both hunter and i want to see whether you your hand. Should hunter and trump both be held accountable if they are found guilty on any of their indictments . Raise your hand if you think that equal justice under the law applies and trumpun should be hd accountable. I i think it is worth that embarrassing that republicans wont raise their hands. They refused to say that equal justice under the law should apply to everyone. And when you step back and think about it speeded what about the january 6th defendants . This double standard insults institutions of congress that people fought and died to build. Thisis impeachment hearing cleay is not about justice. We cannot say equal justice undern the law for everyone, except for the guy who holds the least. I will yield the rest of my time to Ranking Member raskin. Thank you. I think you are being interrupted by several college i had one question posed by the distinguished gentleman from george who said what about the generous six defendants . All of whom have lawyers come due process, the presumption of innocence and they were convicted of various things including assaulting federal officers and metropolitan police. What about speeded point of order. If i can take my time back. I yield back. The wasnt on the microphone multiple member say its wrong for genuine six rioters were convicted by a jury of their peers. That is disturbing that we start to get used to it but we cant get used to it. The time of the gentleman has expired. Chair recognizes point of order. Recognized mr. Fallon. Thank you, mr. Chairman. Asking in the consent to enter without objections order. The china recognizes mr. Perry for five minutes. Thank you, mr. Chairman. An attempt to establish some patterns here and get your actual facts out, the media will not report, the president s sun seemed to benefit often from government positions as far back as 1996. He referred and to receive his first job and then send her joe biden had supported the controversial bankruptcy bill which would favor the company to the peril of average citizens and you get the name senator for him in p. A. After which hunter then continued to benefit from his fathers public positions, and in 2011 he was contacted by a chinese politician and businessmen. They wanted to form ad joint Investment Firm that then became a subsidiary of the bank of china. It seems like the president s, the president signed only skill is leveraging his family name. Essentially seems like it comes to him like swimming comes to a fish. If we could put up on the screen and email from between devon archer and the president son. As you can see here, where hes asked why this is super chairman love me so much, and the answer is its easy. It has nothing to do with me and everything to do with my last name. Thats the president s son. Thats not me saying it. Thats the president s son. He openly acknowledge it doesnt come from education or business acumen. It comes from his paper and lets face it it is his name but is not his name that was going garnering all the attention. Both were selling their name. Went to mdma and the other to the highest bidder. Devon archer and is transcribed interview if you put that on the screen, please, he confirmed it. If i can get mr. Archers testimony on the screen. Its getting at the because the clock is ticking. Biden family taken from a said the biden family was the product or the brand and is fair to say and quotes that joe biden was the brand and obviously most value to the brand. I make the case because the president s son was addicted to drugs and he was frequently prostitutes i suspect his value of a brand was pretty low compared to his father who was a Vice President ofue the United States. I Mean Companies brands or products whether its a food company or a car company or shoe company. They brand it because it provides trust by their buyers from their buyers. This Committee First release a memo in 2023 that show that less than two months after the Vice President left officer state Energy Hk Limited sent Robertson Walker again a very close friend and business associate, associate of the biden family 3 million shortly thereafter literally the next day and within the next series of days, Robinson Walker sent over 1 million to the biden family and associated businesses. And they were sent in suspect incremental payments. And it follows a pattern. I can give you other instances where the exact same thing occurred. Onethird for Robinson Walker, onethird onethird gear, onethird there. Thats how it worked out. Now the biden, provided no legitimate services yet howley biden reported working ass a School Counselor was provided some of this money. For what . What was the product of what was a service . Mr. Chairman, i ask unanimous consent to enter into the record the first bank record memos dated march 162023 new evidence resulting from Oversight Committees investigation in the biden families influence peddling and business scheme showing the biden family members businessesssociate received over 1 million from state Energy Hk Limited, a chinese company. Without objections order. Thank you. Mr. Charlie, thank you for being here. What iss influence peddling . Influence peddling is to sell access or influence to it officeholder to achieve some and here there isto sometimes a cler quid pro quo which is a specific act that you want, sometimes as a general pattern of corruption, a favoring someone. I and my testimony gave i believe the canadian definition which i thought was a particularly good one under their law but the United States also signed off on a convention on public corruption that also has definitions that are relevant. Mr. Dubinsky in the remaining time this money come these wires being sent to family members with no apparent legitimate services being rendered is this something you would find interest in and comes yourself, if charged with it would investigate on your own. Was the time of the gentleman has expired a please answer the question for it would be a red flag and i would followup on that and see where it leads. Thank you, mr. Chairman point ofwh order. I did want to interrupt the distinguished gentleman from pennsylvania, but he referred to an email at the beginning of this testimony. Have we not been provided a copy of that in the . I dont know where it came from. What is the source of that material . The source of the regional is from Hunter Biden Hunter biden senator the committee . Hunter biden said that to the committee . Because we have a rule on this. We have to be provided all mature thats going to be entered into the record. Our colleagues keep relying on emails that are purportedly obtained from Hunter Bidens laptop but with no idea if those emails are authentic as you know youve not shared with us what you say is the hard drive to Hunter Bidens laptop and nobody has verified them. It is been verified. Its a legitimate. I asked enormous consent to have the email entered into the record. Then im going to without objections but we dont know what the basis of that is. We will work on getting yout an answer or if i can just say the Computer Repair guy who disseminate that stuff says he cannot account for the chain of custody of the alleged hard drive of the laptop here so we have no idea where that comes from. We will get you the at to do that butom i would like to remid the Ranking Member that the president s son is now suing the repair guy for leaking his laptop. Remember he denied forever and you all right there i agree with you but he cant account for the custody of it either. We will get you the answer on the source of email. The chennaiai recognizes i would like asking in this consent to enter into the record our own 2023 transcribed interview with our committee of devonth archer what it clearly states, quote, the brand is already in. He was asked the brand was joe biden and mr. Archer responded d. C. Was the brand. Without objections so ordered. To the record twice now. I guesson its a reminder. The chair recognizes ms. Crockett from texas. Yes, thank you so much, mr. Trebek before the get my question onmi what to write everyone that the information recorded in the form 1023 of my republican colleagues keep fighting is not evidence of anything. This form reflects the years old secondhand unverified information from a ukrainian oligarchs as related to the fbi by confidential human source, these unfair butfo secondhand allegations have been repeatedly debunked andas undermined including by the confidential human source who relayed this information to the fbi. The tip reported in the form 1023 was thoroughly explored by the u.