Transcripts For CSPAN3 Lectures In History 20240622 : vimars

CSPAN3 Lectures In History June 22, 2024

My former employer has a lot of attention for a number of reasons. I think it is an interesting situation. A group of students were caught on camera phone singing racist song about lynching. The students were immediately expelled from the university of oklahoma. Is anyone troubled by the singular action . Is anyone troubled that University President has expelled students unilaterally . Yes . These things come up a lot. In our society, we have the right of the due process. Particularly in the university setting, i think anyone would be hardpressed to defend their actions but not to defend their right to due process. Prof. Chatelain it is a scary idea that there can be a student can make a choice that has an impact on the community and there are choices students make an university settings, and there can be such a quick response. One may argue if they had worked at the university of oklahoma perhaps the response may be a distraction to other issues that are happening on campus and this was a strategic decision in hopes that would not be deeper digging into the culture at the university that may yield other issues. But im not saying that. How do we handle a University Environment . The nature of the video itself. Im reminded of the Donald Sterling incident. Both incidences, they are inexcusable that the same time it is raising the question of if they didnt know they were being filmed where does your freedom of speech come into play. I dont agree with what the attorney did but it is troublesome that you could be saying something stupid, films randomly and expelled. Prof. Chatelain there are consequences to our speech public and private. Our expectations of privacy can have consequences in the public. The question of what does it mean when a group of students on a bus on the way to a party that part of their entertainment, part of them getting their head in the party game is to sing a racist song on a bus . What does that say . Thoughts about this . There was a reporter that made a comment about michelle obama. He made a very [inaudible] which is very offensive. He has commented on several things. Where does that come into play . Prof. Chatelain theres a sense of there is a standard as an employee that this is not ok. This reminds me of last semester. A professor at the university of illinois fired for a tweet, that some perceived as antisemitic or antiisrael. The university severed their relationship with him. What are the limits of speech and whether consequences . Can we hold each other to a standard of being reasonable and respectful but do we need these other mechanisms . It will be interesting to see the stuff that unfolds. The students working on the issues at the university of oklahoma are fantastic. Students are saying their deeper there are some deeper questions we have to ask area. We are also held to a standard on social media. It is not just tweets. Prof. Chatelain what else is going on . In the resurgence of black lives matter around the Police Brutality of the student, an honor student, and it made me think about our discussions surrounding who is a worthy victim and worthy face to take up a cause, and even when you google him you cant find with mike brown you cant find anything. We have a medieval to come up we have not been able to come up with anything negative and it seems like now is the time. Prof. Chatelain university of virginia, it has been a rough year. The question about, i think this is why i dont like millennial bashing. People who do it are mean and dumb. One of the things that we see throughout these different Campus Communities is a smart and very transparent way of thinking about these issues. One of the reasons why black lives matter and the Ferguson Movement has distinguished itself historically is that it didnt fall into this trap of this person was a bad victim and we are going to look for a good victim. There is a consistency of the question. If we say black lives matter to we have to bracket which lives . It does not matter peace smoked weed and listen to rap music. The question of the person is being treated with a level of respect. He was arrested by the alcohol abt and they said he was arrested for having a fake id. Even in the reports, if he did have a fake id prof. Chatelain no id has been recovered. There is no fake id or there might have been. But the question is what is a human life worth . Lets say he had 100 fake ids with him. The brutality of the experience and the scale of these things is giving people pause. A quick side note. Im doing a teacher training. One of the things that was powerful is that a number of teachers said they were not allowed to talk about ferguson until november. A woman who works and lives and is from ferguson said only talk about rebuilding trust we talk about rebuilding trust were not just talking about the police, we are talking but educators. Teachers let the community down. The importance of the engagement, and universities are being called into question, it isnt just about providing a quality education or providing access, it is a producer that represents itself on and off campus. We can use a lighter one. Before spring break there was an article online. These two twins. One was black and one was white. Prof. Chatelain the twins. We will talk about this when we talk about caucasian. Buzz feed did an article, and they had an entire article of people who are related but not the same racial group area the point is, we will talk about the object of looking like one race or the other in the dynamics of the family. The movie you saw on tuesday touched on it. The author of caucasian is in that movie. She pretended she didnt know her dad and her sister when she saw someone from school because she didnt know what the reaction was. The last one, you can go to starbucks and talk about race now. We will be canceling class the rest of the semester and going to starbucks to talk about race. Just kidding. For today, we are looking at the question of Sex Education. Susan freemans book is challenging our notions about the path as sexually repressed and conservative in the present as liberal and more open. I think what this text does, we talk about broader questions about the relationship between race and Sex Education, it challenges us to think outside of the box as a time in a dolt telling young people about sex it is necessarily oppressive. Anytime there is engagement about sex and sexuality it is always in a progressive lens. This complicates this idea. The first question i have, is Sex Education in the state interest . Why do we understand Public Schools having a responsibility to do Sex Education . Any thoughts . Yes . Considering rates of pregnancies, it is important if you are not getting education in the home, it is important the state educate you. Prof. Chatelain they have this preventative task. We understand there may be a correlation between unplanned early pregnancies and social consequences. If i were to tell you the teen pregnancy rate is the lowest it has been in decades, would that mean such education is working . Possibly, maybe . We have to wonder why. Is it in the states interest to do Sex Education . Yes. The state has an interest to make sure people are aware of things that could happen. That prevents having to deal with a major epidemic. Prof. Chatelain we understand it as a longterm investment. It is not just about pregnancy but section transmitted diseases, sexually transmitted diseases and we can extend it to healthy eating, benefits of exercise antismoking. The state has an interest in the health of its people. One of the thing that is interesting is when we look at where and how Sex Education is being done in comparison to these models in the books we find that perhaps the path had a more sophisticated understanding about the origins or the necessity of Sex Education than the present. The states in red do not require Sex Education at all. With the caveat in illinois there is some education that is not mandatory but you have to do health education. And you also have to provide medically Accurate Information on abstinence. In mississippi, localities may include contraception, only with permission from the state department of education. In tennessee, Sex Education is required if the pregnancy rate is 19. 5 or higher per 1000 teenage women. We see this thing that we may agree is in the state interest. The mechanisms in which it is applied are vastly different. They are shaped by a political climate. If we look at the states that dont require hiv education, this is interesting. Can we imagine education about hiv as mandatory but education about sex is not . Operating in the same place . Go further. States where hiv education and provided dont have to be medically accurate. You seem bewildered. What is that . Are they looking for the medically accurate, states that are sketchy with articles. Prof. Chatelain what does any about being medically accurate . Some states have taken a position about abstinence only education. One of the controversies about abstinence only education is the question about whether it is medically accurate. To say to the group of young people the only way to prevent unplanned pregnancy is abstinence. That is not medically accurate. It is a true statement. Abstinence is one mechanism. It is not necessarily medically accurate. Why do we have so many fine definitions about the nature of Sex Education . The last one, states were Sex Education if provided must include information on abstinence but not on contraception. We see the level of specificity in a way that when we look at these models that have the origins of the 1930s people are not thinking in terms of parsing what it means to provide Sex Education. They have a viewpoint and the perspective but they are not engaged in this type of definition because Sex Education had not become a political issue the way it is today. How many folks in the room went to a school in which abstinence only was the standard . Interesting. How many were to school where there was no Sex Education . How many went to school where you would say they had comprehensive sex and help education . How many went to school where there was any type of distribution of contraception . How many who raise their hand went to school in the u. S. Very interesting. The last one, states where Sex Education of provided must include negative information on samesex relationships. We see another layer. Dont be ashamed if you are from these states. We are all different. I saw some hiding. How did sex get into schools . The first question that we think about when we think about the past, we often suggest that people were compliant until the 1960s and all hell broke loose. That is a really dim view of humanity. That this idea that young people were so absorbed with the idea of conformity that they could just accept Sex Education as it was given to them until the sexual revolution. What she is saying is the relationships are more common. Complicated. Even as Sex Education was a method of thinking about gender rules, family life, and expectations, there were some signs of resistance or questioning these ideas. Sex education was a form of training. Informative relationships and heterosexuality. When i think about this book i think about a 1957 facts of life and love for teens. If you want to borrow it you can ask me privately. It is everything a teenager should know about life. One of the things that is interesting, it opens about sexual maturity and puberty and it ends with how much a wedding should cost. Adulthood isnt about the physical changes of puberty and managing a sexual relationship it is about the depth and quality of the family relationship which is the Building Block of a healthy nation. It challenges the notion of a path of conservatives in the present as liberal. When i was a young person in the 1980s, the aids crisis shaped a lot of the comprehensive hiv education that in some places doesnt exist anymore. People debated contents in school but there wasnt a people debated condoms in school but there wasnt a question about Sex Education. Abstinence only education was not something you would find in a Public School but it was considered only part of a religious education. The idea that entire states are using abstinence only education as the standard for Sex Education really does trouble this notion as a present is far more liberal than the past. Any questions or concerns or reflections . We will move on. Why Sex Education . At the core of Sex Education was this idea of gender, and how the content and methods are developed are these ideas about school as a place that has forms of gender imprinting. What are the mechanisms. What are the ways that schools reproduce ideas about gender and roles . By determining who can and cannot go to a school dance as a couple. Prof. Chatelain very good. Every so often there will be the students banned from going to a dance together. Usually a samesex couple. What else . The separation of boys and girls during Sex Education. When we look at the film clip of human growth that comes out of oregon, boys and girls together on the same information. We have this understanding of boys and girls needing to know different things. Prom king and queen. Prof. Chatelain the school dance. If i was elected princess or queen of all School Things i would abolish dances. Talk about pure terror. What is the purpose of a school sponsoring a dance . Anyone want to make a case . I will take a shot. It brings those relationships into the public sphere that can be observed and condone. The notion of some dancing that happens is frankly terrifying. You have chaperones who can leave room between couples and whatnot. It is instead of letting the couples go to their houses, it is putting in the public sphere where they can judge it. Prof. Chatelain it is this idea of mediating the social sphere. At the very least there can be , some type of monitoring of it. What else . We could invite our brother schools over. Leave room for the holy spirit leave room for jesus. It plays into what he said, it brings relationships into the public sphere and then condoning it. Prof. Chatelain it is a weird kind of role. It comes back to this conversation earlier about universities. Universities are not businesses. We are in the business of forming young minds to be better citizens for our democracy and we have to have rules and regulation. I think that there is this awkward space about is this different, but most of you are of legal age. You are 18 or older when you have this experience. We treat you like adults. For others, this is supposed to be a nurturing environment. Schools do the same role for young people as they are moving into critical spaces of maturity. Pre 1960 Sex Education had broad support. It was based in normative heterosexuality and the family. This idea that there could be this broadbased coalition against Sex Education doesnt emerge until the 1970s when conversations about local control and federal power start to become part of the discourse of school management. When we hear local control and federal crews and federal intrusion what comes to mind . I think of racism, Southern States trying to bring it down. Prof. Chatelain this idea of resisting brown versus board resisting federal approaches to School Integration by citing local control. Common core, banning of ap history in oklahoma. This intellectual and social battles waged in the schools show us the importance of schools as sites of conflict and investing in kids in order to make a better nation. What she highlights in this book is there was no retrenchment or Sex Education during cold war due to concerns about anticommunism. That you needed Sex Education in the schools, you need education about family life, or the communists would win. One of the ways communism was framed in the United States as negative or bad for business is that communists engaged in free love. There was this concern that communists allow for polygamy, the state allowed the family to allow the family structure. The children were wards of the state. The investment in Sex Education wasnt just about educating kids. It was about the idea that kids had to understand that this, that democracy, the u. S. Way of doing things was the normative and correct way of doing things. This is bound in Sex Education at this time. The question of Human Behavior and relationships shapes the 1930s approach where teachers were introducing sexuality as a Human Behavior and it was a part of good relationships. If you look through this book through the 1950s they talk about Sexual Satisfaction as a reasonable expectation of a relationship. That there has to be sexual compatibility within the confines of a strong marriage. This was important to make sure that people were normal. The 1950s discourse on normalcy was not only reaction to postworld war ii trauma, the expression of shell shock, ideas of posttraumatic stress disorder come out of the world war ii soldier experience, but the idea of being a normal person. What do normal people do in the confines of their relationship . There are various experiments she talks about these as quiet efforts. Very few communities wanted to publicize this. Like, we are doing Sex Education now. There are these movements that

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