so listen, some are saying, or wondering, is this the beginning of the end for the chicago contingency that came in to washington with president obama? >> well, this is certainly one of the more high-profile chicagoans to come in, and there's all kinds of speculation about rahm emanuel. i think we'll just have to see in coming weeks. >> let's look ahead for the first lady. because this has been a high-profile first lady. what does the white house look like, what does a washington look like now with a new social secretary, absent desiree rogers now? >> well, i think we will probably continue to see events, affairs of a similar kind. i think people are pretty happy with the kinds of events that desiree rogers and her office were putting on. it was probably just more the front and center role that desiree rogers was taking in all of this. i think what we will see in the future, the new social secretary will be julianna smoot, a veteran fund-raiser. i think we'll be seeing less of her than we did of desiree rogers. and that'll be i think the challenge-s that now that