corporation? >> larry: jane, don't interrupt. let him speak. >> larry: go ahead, thad. >> jane, you are a newscaster. you have no knowledge of what you are talking about with dolphins, whales or anything. you have not trained any animals. rick has trained very few animals back in the 1960s. since that time mainly because he couldn't get a job doing anything else, once he left -- actually, once he was fired from his jobs and those are the facts, then he turned against the ocean aquariums. i cannot help that he trained dolphins using dominance theory. that is not the case anymore. nobody trains dolphins that way in the entire industry. it is all done with positive reinforcement and done in a very positive way, and dawn brancheau was one of those people that carried it on very beautifully. >> larry: rick, you may respond. >> well, i've never been fired