in this incident like the oth s others, the only way we found out the uranium was missing from the facilities is when it showed up in an arrest. the facilities themselves never knew it was gone. >> we'll bring in pictures here. this is highly enriched uranium in small pouchs and what's interesting is, again, this comes in, you know -- this can come in very small amounts, and kind of hard to detect, right? >> right. this is like a black powder. it's like black talcum powder and it's not highly radioactive, so the plastic itself is enough of a shield to prevent the carrier from any radiation damage. a thin lead shielding, like you see here, will prevent it from being picked up by any scanners. >> why should an american care about some of these smuggling operations that are taking place so far from the united states? >> because this is happening very close to where al qaeda operates. al qaeda could get this material and as we know, they have no trouble hitting us. >> all right, joe, thank you very much for joining us. we appreciate it. now, we ran some of this by the official we spoke with at the russian embassy, he said security at all russian facilities thaturanium is adequate.