the pipe was 70,000 gallons per day. at the rate it was coming out was 70,000 gallons a day. >> i want to bring in dug brinkley. 70,000 gallons versus 5,000 gallons that is an extraordinary difference. >> it is certainly going to be more than 5,000. we have the video of the gusher, not a spill, a gusher, people from a laboratories in massachusetts, one of the finest places for professors from florida, top people saying a lot more than british petroleum told us. >> i misspoke. sigh meant 5,000 barrels compared to 70,000 barrels. not gallons. >> it's more than bp has told the public. again they waited until after the congressional hearing this week. and now, we have got the video footage of what is going on undersea, for the first time. people are able to do calculations for themselves. we need more transparency out of