although if you go to that place, it doesn't -- it's not a good place to be. it doesn't get you anywhere. >> of course, this old launchpad has some cool spots to explore. >> i don't think anybody could be here during launch. >> and great climbing places for a kid. astronaut moms think just like every mom. >> i don't think we should go for the top. >> it's pretty high and pretty slippery. a large part of the focus for katy and josh is keeping jamie's life constant, going to school, playing ball, doing chores. >> he does the dishes and clears the table. >> reporter: it's about building a strong foundation so even when mom is flying, jamie will stay well grounded. >> reporter: so, you know, the funny part about it. i talked to katie this morning, she's in rush a kyra, five days in training and she wanted to know if the story was going to be on today and she wasn't going to be able to see it there and