executive director of the international bird rescue research center. did i get that right? i always get it wrong. >> right. >> thanks very much. you are doing this for 40 years. how does this spill compare to what you have seen? >> well, you know, one thing different about this spill is the oil keeps pumping and therefore we can't really plan for an end to it and i always say spills start with three pieces. there's the beginning, the middle when everything's working and getting it cleaned up and then the last drop is cleaned and we're still in the beginning so that mikes it really tiring and frustration as everybody else -- >> we have seen the process where the birds are cleaned and then brought here. can you show us this? >> this is a cage outside where these guys are in the rehabilitation stage. see them? and so, these pelicans -- they'll calm down in a second. some of those first pelicans you saw that were really oiled, some of them are these. >> amazing the difference. >> yeah. this is what they look like when they're cleaned. the ones with the white heads are considered adults and over