hesitant to get onboard with the american effort, the nato effort. but there are other regions where we have gained ground. marjah is one where militarily, i would have to agree with what secretary gates said, he is right on, we have done well military, but when you look at the civilian side, there are issues, very difficult issues. so i would say that leon's statement is probably pretty well correct. there is where we have concentrated military, and we have done well, but you have to give up something when you do that, and insert areas the taliban gained in strength because they moved troops there. >> it sounds to me, senator reid, a little bit like whack a mole, and we move them over here and then they pop up somewhere else. again, there is not the civilian reinforcement that has yet to move in to marjah and be successful at any rate. and then we are talking about