i don't know john, but i do know mark halperin. i'm very disappointed they made no effort to contact me. >> larry: never tried to call you? >> no. it's not that hard to reach me. >> larry: no. >> and they made no effort. it would have been nice if they had. not because -- some of the things are not true. that i understand are in there. but some of the things -- >> larry: well, they make you almost like a devil. >> yeah. and, um, they're just, you know -- were there times on the road when it was tense with john? yes. did i ever say john doesn't -- you know, i read books, john doesn't, for example? john reads ten times the number of books i do. i mean, i would never have said that. if i ever called him a hick, it was because he liked to be called a hick, you know? oh, you're such a hick, you know, you're such a country boy. i don't know -- "hick's" not really a word i'd use. >> larry: does it bother you -- or when you have stage 4 cancer, does nothing bother you? >> no, it bothered me.