preventing the most dangerous weapons in the world from falling into the hands of the most dangerous regimes. and this is what we really are facing today. we're facing the prospect that people who talk about destruction, who deny the holocaust, who sponsor terrorism everywhere, who shoot their own citizens on the sidewalk, you know, they lie there. you remember that young woman lying there, choking on her own blood. these people who have absolutely no inhibitions about the use of violence and brutality would acquire the weapons of mass terror, the ultimate mass terror weapons, which is atomic bombs. that's a very, very dangerous development for all of us. >> larry: would there be any point -- may sound ridiculous, but speaking is better than killing. would there be any point for you to sit down with ahmadinejad?