democrats. i've never seen any incumbent party do well. the bad good news is we're eight points better than the republicans, so i guess there's some solace in that. >> the problem with these polls for all the democrats is the consistency. one poll is worse than its predecessor. also the persistent of the intensity of the opposition, which gives their strategier imperative of trying to make this be a race of choice. if you go to your internals, there's no support for any of his policies and all the democrats will have to answer for them. >> let me get your thought on the point you just made, james. you helped get bill clinton ecollected based on the economy. mary you worked with george w.