>> and so then what impact will it have? i just want to know, for the record, this is a judge appointed by clinton to the bench, but at the recommendation of arizona's conservative senator jon kyl. if you look at a map of the country, a number of states, at least five, have proposed laws that essentially mirror the arizona law. pennsylvania, rhode island, michigan, south carolina and minnesota. across state, there are hundreds of pieces of legislation and resolutions on immigration being dealt with. gloria, do you see a pause in that political argument or will these states take this as an insentive and say, let's keep pushing? >> i think the latter, john. i think in talking to republicans today, they say, look this ruling in a perversion way will bring out -- even though they lost it will bring out the republican base. it kind of reinforces their message that washington doesn't know best. leave things up to the states. and plays into their message about the heavy handed, kind of