the windy city has been plagued with violence. there have been more than 250 murders so far this year. we've got more than 4 and a half months to go. more than 60% of those 250 plus murders are gang related. here with us now, a former gang member, wallace bradley joins us. mr. bradley, we appreciate you being here. what is the definition in your eyes at least of a gang? >> a gang is a group of people that meet soecialbly and regularly. that's why it's not a crime to be a member of any gang, whether it's congress, fraternities, 100 black men. you name it. >> now, would you -- >> but what -- go ahead, i'm sorr sorry. >> i was going to ask, a lot of people have in their minds, when you hear about gangs, street gangs in particular, are you telling me you don't believe