society. president rabani's chairmanship today of the peace council is exactly in that spirit. but those who are a part of al qaeda and the other terrorist networks who are id logically against us, who are working against afghanistan knowingly and with a purpose of hatred and enmity, those, of course, we have to work against. whether they're against afghanistan or al qaeda and the terrorist were against the united states or our neighbors in pakistan, those, of course, cannot be accepted. >> larry: "washington post" is saying talks are already under way. we'll ask about that right after this. let me tell you about a very important phone call i made.