of constant paralysis if once power is divided, there is no compromise. >> all right, kathleen. you know what, he could sell anybody anything, but not selling me on this deal. i know bill clinton is there to defend the president, there is a bond there, they're doing it with all good intentions, but i still maintain, bad deal, bad economics, bad for the nation, more debt, money to the wrong people. i don't get it, i don't know why the democratic party doesn't fight harder. i want to see what happens up on the hill. >> but he not only endorsed the plan, he said worse things will happen if it doesn't go through. so that was more than just an endorseme endorsement. >> this is the fifth argument we've heard. we worked hard for it, it's better than you think, there's good unemployment. if you don't like those, we're going to have a double dip recession. every day, a different theory for why we're given the wealthy money they don't need, and not giving it to our educational system, not giving it to build the infrastructure, and we're borrowing this money that we're giving to the rich from the chinese. i'm sorry. i don't get this as an economic model. >> he still has to sell it,