i was just calling you on the phone here. >> good, good. >> we were excited to come meet with you. >> and we're glad you did. >> and we're hoping to bring wilma and dorothy in as well. >> we can't do that. >> why not? >> because if we open it up to others who are interested, then it will have to be opened up to industry folks as well. and they would probably want to have their lawyers represented as well. and we haven't set that up, and we have our scientists who want to provide you information in an interview type of atmosphere. >> what if they just listen? what if they don't say anything? >> it wouldn't be appropriate. >> we have come from mossville to here to sit in a room, and you won't allow that? >> we really try to be as open and fair and honest as any state agency can be. if you don't feel you're getting the proper treatment, i'm sorry. it's going to be -- you know, where now you don't want to interview us on the topic, then that's going to be the case. >> we definitely want to talk.