the american people. you have to give up some social security, you have to give up some medicare. you can't take on new entitlements the you care about the deficit. >> that's a contract between the government and employees who worked for it. >> we must move on. great to have you here. this conversation will continue. not be revolved in 24 hours. >> forever more. >> you'll come back and continue. >> thank you. coming up, as the debt edges closer to the debt ceiling, we'll ask ben stein to help us do the math. >> almost all of the promises coming out of the congress are not going to happen. they can't cut $100 billion. they're not going to be able slow the growth of federal spending, at least not waterboard our li within our lifetimes or my lifetime. it's lot of political blarney at this point. happy anniversary. [ male announcer ] what happened to luxury? ♪