entitlements if you care about the deficit. >> social security is not an entitlement, it's a contract with the government and employees who worked for it. >> we must move on. great to have you here. this conversation will continue. not be revolved in 24 hours. >> forever more. >> you'll come back and continue. >> thank you. coming up, as the budget edges toward the debt ceiling it's hard to separate numbers from the politics. we'll ask ben stein to help us do the math. stay with us. >> almost all of the promises coming out of the congress are not going to happen. they're not going to cut $100 billion. they're not going to be able slow the growth of federal spending, at least not within our lifetimes or my lifetime. i'm 66. it's lot of political blarney at this point. another heart attack could be lurking, waiting to strike. a heart attack that's caused by a clot, one that could be fatal. but plavix helps save lives. plavix, taken with other heart medicines, goes beyond what other heart medicines do alone,