john mcquarter. >> thank you for having us. >> what was the reaction to the reading of the constitution? and an abridged form? >> the genius of america is our ability to grow. and when you take the horror out of history, when you recover from it, it doesn't feel as triumphant and certainly slavery was a horror. certainly it was a horror that women couldn't vote. certainly it was a horror when people couldn't drink. so leaving out the 18th amendment, leaving out article one section two that categorized slaves as three fifths of a person, when you leave that out, you can't say we've gone from being three fifths of a person to the first lady. >> i think this goes to the heart of how they want us to interpret the constitution, goes to the notion of originalism and