growth, political development, order over political reform, they don't think the country is ready for it yet, they're going to make step by step progress, they never say it, instead they get defensive, paranoid, black out the few statements they make. in that sense you do get a feeling this is still a regime very much feeling its way to maturity. these are not the actions of a regime comfortably in control and willing to depend itself to the world. >> thanks. >> pleasure. >> when we come back, one-on-one with gabby giffords lead trauma doctor. a remarkable update on her remarkable recovery. a group of heavy hitters from the first bush administration gathering tonight to discuss the 20th anniversary of the first persian gulf war. we'll keep an eye on this event.