be an islamic state and the army doesn't like it because the army is secular. they are pro-western. they get a lot of supports from the united states and they have a good relationship working in terms of even sharing intelligence with israel. so, they're not going to want the muslim brotherhood there in the driver's seat in a way they can't control or to a way that could lead to a lot of tension? >> let's turn to the crowds. we have seen reports, even that children are showing up with their parent at some of these protests but at the same time most of the pictures we're seeing we see a lot of young men out in the crowds. >> let's make a distinction here. between the police who are very hated by many people in egypt and the military, who are very popular. people take pictures with them, they embrace them. early on in the protests we didn't see too many women out there because the police traditionally have harassed them. it was one instance that one of our reporters said that they saw